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15
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Yes. No.
Debate Score:24
Arguments:25
Total Votes:33
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Do you support stand your ground laws?


Yes.

Side Score: 15
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No.

Side Score: 9

Yes. I should be allowed to protect myself against white supremacists, Nazis, and racist cops.

Side: Yes.
1 point

Or anyone else that threatens your life. I agree...…………………………………………………………………………..

Side: Yes.
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Or anyone else that threatens your life. I agree

The obvious problem is that if one of you gets shot and dies the other can simply say to police their life was threatened. It is difficult to disprove that if the only other witness is dead because you shot them. Hence, stand your ground laws genuinely benefit people looking to get away with murder.

Furthermore, there are a lot of stupid, paranoid people around who might misinterpret a situation and end up killing someone because they thought they were being threatened. There are also people just looking for an excuse to shoot you, and will subsequently take every possible opportunity to interpret something you say as a threat. Indeed, there have been plenty of times on this very board where I have made jokes and then been accused of death threats by morons like Mingiwuwu and Amarel.

Stand your ground laws would be perfectly acceptable if the second amendment didn't exist, but it does. As a result, they only encourage shootings.

Side: No.
1 point

Yes. I should be allowed to protect myself against white supremacists, Nazis and racist

Your best chance of that is suicide.

I would be extremely entertained to discover what you think a Nazi white supremacist racist is, if it is not an idiot who sits on the internet all day spamming far right memes, attacking Muslims, blacks and liberals, lying and distorting everything he possibly can, worshipping his own flag and perpetually brown-nosing a man which many Holocaust survivors have compared to Adolf Hitler.

In short, which universe are you living in? Because it sure as shit isn't this one kid.

Side: No.
1 point

Heh heh. Try breaking into my home and find out. Lol. Although I wouldn't recommend doing so. Not if you want to continue breathing.

Side: Yes.
Amarel(5669) Clarified
1 point

Such laws typically do not apply within homes because you already had the legal right to respond to lethal threats with lethal force within your home prior to any stand your ground laws.

Side: Yes.
1 point

Stand your ground laws are often simply the removal of specific language from current law. By removing the requirement to first run away from a lethal threat, stand your ground laws enable a person to respond to a lethal existential threat with lethal force without first attempting to flee.

Side: Yes.
1 point

Sure do and if anyone has a problem with that then try and enter my resident !!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes.
1 point

On reading some of the results which this law has produced and insofar that ''lethal force can be used in a perceived threat situation'' I am of the opinion that this law is a;-licence to kill.

Side: No.
Amarel(5669) Clarified
1 point

Why is “perceived” in bold? You want to screw people who shoot the guy robbing the bank with a fake gun?

Side: Yes.
excon(18261) Disputed
0 points

''lethal force can be used in a perceived threat situation'' I am of the opinion that this law is a;-licence to kill.

Hello bongo boy:

Your glee to able to murder black people has not gone unnoticed..

excon

Side: Yes.
Amarel(5669) Clarified
1 point

He is against stand your ground laws. Now try not using him as the ad hominem which determines your opinion for you .

Side: Yes.
0 points

Do you support stand your ground laws?

Hello R:

That the white supremacist ABOVE likes them, should be a glaring clue..

excon

Side: No.
Amarel(5669) Clarified
1 point

That the white supremacist ABOVE likes them, should be a glaring clue..

Coco is against stand your ground. Does that mean you are now for it?

Side: Yes.
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

SUPER STUPID calls up the LEFTIST talking points as seen below !!!!!!!!!!!!!

That the white supremacist ABOVE likes them, should be a glaring clue..

excon

Side: Yes.
0 points

Hello R:

That the white supremacist ABOVE likes them, should be a glaring clue.

Do you have the same opinion on Jew your ground laws? Or do you feel that Jewing your ground should be legally acceptable?

Side: Yes.
excon(18261) Disputed
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Do you have the same opinion on Jew your ground laws?

Hello hater:

Dude..

Look. I Jewed my ground two days ago.. Your ground could use little Jewing..

Dude! Do you think that sticking the word Jew into a random sentence is insulting??? Dude!

excon, Jewing the ground

Side: No.
0 points

When that law is used as an excuse to shoot and kill a person who is running away from you, even if they tried to be aggressive first, no I do not. If they are still attacking you when you shoot and kill them then yes. The latter is strictly defense, the former is retribution and vengeance.

Side: No.
Grugore(856) Disputed
1 point

If that person was armed and running away, I would shoot them. If I didn't, they'd use that weapon on someone else. Shooting such a person would be a civic duty.

Side: Yes.
Amarel(5669) Disputed
1 point

Stand your ground laws simply remove the requirement that a person first attempt to flee a lethal threat before responding with lethal force. This typically would not apply to a person who is running away from you. Except in Texas where they have a specific law that says you can shoot a thief who is fleeing in the night, but that's another topic.

Side: Yes.
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Jewel says if a perpetrator was aggressive at first then one has no right to shoot that perpetrator ?????????????

Side: Yes.