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Do you think Gay Marriage should be allowed in the USA?
I want to see people's opinions on whether or not Gay Marriage should be allowed in the USA! I personally think nothing is wrong with Gay Marriage. Marrige is the bonding of two lovers! Why should you stop two people from loving eachother?
Yes, but sadly, people are very traditional and stubborn. They do not like to see things change, they do not like accepting that people are very different. Of course gay marriage should be allowed! What makes them different? Nothing. Why do people not accept this and move on? I would like to find out.
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
They do not like to see things change, they do not like accepting that people are very different. Of course gay marriage should be allowed! What makes them different? Nothing.
So, nothing makes "them", aka the gays, different. Then, why is it sad that "people do not like accepting that people are very different".
Or are they different and not different at the same time?
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Hitler, your desperateness to reply with something is showing. All of the things you've said are made up and based on nothing. (Except the stupidity in your brain) Why can't you just accept different genders like each other and that they want to be together? I'm beginning to think your just a failing troll.
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
My personal opinion on this topic is that nothing is wrong with Gay Marriage! If two people want to be together and take their relationship to marriage then why stop them? It's their love to share not yours.
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
If two people want to be together and take their relationship to marriage then why stop them?
I have nothing against these people marrying! I would certainly never try to stop them.
Just don't ask me to recognize their "marriage", because I won't. And neither will the majoirty which pays taxes to the government. So, they have no right to demand this from the government, either.
You see, it's not about society imposing things on them, its them wanting things from society.
I'm not from the USA, and I was referring to the situation in my country.
But I don't see why it should be different for you.
No one is asking you to send a wedding gift or "recognize" other people's marriages. The fight for marriage equality is so that if Joe and Adam love each other, they can receive the same benefits as their neighbors Jenna and Roger. That means that if, for example, Adam dies, Joe is considered his next of kin and can receive his inheritance. If Joe gets sick and can't make his own decisions, Adam can be his proxy. You know, things like that.
No one cares if you think it's right because it doesn't affect you in any way so sit down and shut up.
No one is asking you to send a wedding gift or "recognize" other people's marriages.
Whoa, hold it there. You might as well have written "nobody is asking you to become the president of Monaco or recognize other people's marriages". So let's skip the wedding gift part, which is obvious demagogy.
And get right to the point. The point is, the exact opposite is true in countries where "gay marriage" has been legalized.
The state is demanding that people recognize "gay marriage" as marriage. Multiple legal cases against businesses which refuse to service gay ceremonies, are proof to that.
Kids are supposed to give 100% acceptance of gay "marriage" when they are asked about it in schools. Lest they and their parents be labeled "bigots" and "haters", and face very real negative consequences.
The fight for marriage equality is so that if Joe and Adam love each other, they can receive the same benefits as their neighbors Jenna and Roger.
That would have been true if these "fighters" accepted civil unions as an alternative to marriage. As it stands, your statement is a lie.
The "gay marriage" activists are fighting not only for the legal benefits, the are hellbent on changing the definition of a word. That change of definition has direct legal implications, which go far beyond implicating legal benefits.
This is especially true in countries where the legal system is precedence-based. Like USA and UK. Once the redefinition of marriage has been made legal by a court, the LGBT army of lawyers can and will use this precedent as a bridgehead, to install further and even more ridiculous legislation. What I mean by ridiculous:
1. The Californian law which allows cross-dressing perverts to use girls' restrooms in schools.
2. The push to prohibit gay conversion therapy.
3. The new law draft which, if accepted, will force Christian schools to accept gay students and gay teachers.
And many other such "legal" consequences, all of which violate fundamental civil rights.
So, this would indeed affect me and other people, in a very direct way. The law is twisted and bent, and rights are taken away, under the guise of "acceptance".
You have to do better than using that liberal pseudo-logic, to argue with me.
I am not gay, or lesbian, I am indeed straight. I just thought it was a cute picture. I am not saying I support a Ciel x Alois.. (But they sure do look cute together.)
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Adults in some countries-- (Maybe America too? I don't know. But I do know adults have married children in Europe.) --have married children. And that's my point, who cares if two men, or two women want to marry? It's none of our concern.
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
(I know I am going to get a lot of atheist hate from this) Everytime I see a gay person kissing it makes me want to vomit. They are spreading their perversion and enforcing their religion (secular humanism and gayness) on me. It ticks me off.
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
(I know I am going to get a lot of atheist hate from this) Everytime I see a gay person kissing it makes me want to vomit. They are spreading their perversion and enforcing their religion (secular humanism and gayness) on me. It ticks me off.
I don't want to start a war with anyone, or something, but why is it your business if two people of the same sex get married. Frankly, I don't care as long as no PDA(personal display of affection) is shown. If two people love each other, let it be. It might bit weird, but love is love. You don't choose who you love. And if two people want to get married, of the same gender, I wouldn't bait an eye, because I know fate has a twisted view of things, but, love with still be love, and true love is the strongest power of them all. So you know what? Just let it be. Because, I know for that couple fate has a rollercoaster lined up for them.
Damn right. Diversity is what makes this planet awesome. Multiple colors on the rainbow make it beautiful, how would it look if it were only green? Boring if you ask me. If two people find love, then congrats!
Just because it's always been this way, doesn't make it right.
What is the actual point against this gay marriage?
Is it a moral dilemma? I've heard the whole 'But if you let two homo's get married then where do you draw the line? Can a man marry his dog?' argument and it is really stupid.
There are millions of people in the world whom feel genuine love and care and attraction to members of the same sex. It's the very same love that you feel for your partner. It's not sinful and it's not wrong. People who attack gay marriage, do you understand that you are ignorant? Do you understand that it is none of your business?
I'm sorry that you've formed such a horrible belief and that these peoples' lifestyle actually makes you upset, but that is your problem, not theirs.
They need not change to fit into your paradigm of what is appropriate.
I just really feel like at this time, We are thoughtful enough to really realize that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality and to unban them from marriage.
Go spend time with some gay people whom genuinely love each other and see how little your opinion is, how thoughtless it is.
You can't call that love inferior and you shouldn't be able to exempt them from solidifying it with marriage.
(I know I am going to get a lot of atheist hate from this) Everytime I see a gay person kissing it makes me want to vomit. They are spreading their perversion and enforcing their religion (secular humanism and gayness) on me. It ticks me off.
Every time I see someone write something like this, it makes me that much more happy about my sexuality, because it means I'm pissing the right people off :)
Gay marriage should be allowed. I understand if it goes against your religion, but you can't decide if a man wants to marry a man or if a woman wants to marry a woman. It's their choice not yours.
What's going to happen if same sex marriage is allowed? Nothing, it'll be completely normal.
I'm all for same sex marriage, and I'm not listening to some over rated book that says there can't be.
There is no legal basis for not extending equal civil rights. Same-sex marriages have no demonstrable harms not also evident in opposite-sex marriages. This is a matter primarily of fiscal benefits constructed by the legal system, and does not bear upon private religious practice at all.
Yes, but sadly, people are very traditional and stubborn. They do not like to see things change, they do not like accepting that people are very different. Of course gay marriage should be allowed! What makes them different? Nothing. Why do people not accept this and move on? I would like to find out.
I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be allowed. Does it hurt anyone? No. Is affecting anyone other than the gay people? Not really. People really shouldn't be spending so much time on this topic. It's not their business and it doesn't really matter. If someone wants to marry someone, why hold them back? And if your comeback is going to be some crap about the bible, don't bother. Just because you believe it doesn't mean that other people do too.
What two consenting adults do with each other should have no effect on other people. If two people love each other and want to ensure that their loved one receives benefits after death, then let them marry. End of story.
Marrige is the bonding of two lovers! Why should you stop two people from loving eachother?
So if a man wanted to marry his dog then he can? You said, "you shouldn't stop two people from loving each other?" so that must mean that people can even marry their animals or even cousins, sisters, and even family members if that's the case.
(I know I am going to get a lot of atheist hate from this) Everytime I see a gay person kissing it makes me want to vomit. They are spreading their perversion and enforcing their religion (secular humanism and gayness) on me. It ticks me off.
Don't worry about people hating on you. Just shrug it off. Jesus was hated as well so as Christians we shouldn't really be bothered if they hate us because one day the whole world will hate us. Yes I know it's disgusting on how two people who are gay kiss each other.
There is a difference between a story from story book and actual record of someone's deeds. Jesus probably never existed, same as Hercules who also "said" some nice things, or Gandalf... but none worship them or kill in their name...
All those sources are from priests or complete bullshit made up by medieval priests. There is no single thing from his life period nothing.... which is weird that no one wrote down anything about touch healing flying guy...
Nice try? You realise I'm quite strongly atheist right? It I'd commonly accepted that Jesus did exist but there I'd only the bible that claims he was God. The synopsis of the book is very odd. Most Christians do not see josephus' writings as an extra book to the bible because it does not support the idea of Jesus being God.
If we ignore that Josephus lived after jesus died and far away... it is quite clear that it is insertion in his text...
It is like the only evidence for your existence ("Atrag") is that your name is mentioned in middle of cheese cake recipe in one sentence in cookbook published somewhere in Bulgaria in year 2094...
Illiterate homeless cult leader whos core thing was telling others that he is a god... wonders around middle east with 12 weirdos, most of his life ignored and at the end he was executed for sorcery.
If find it ironice that you ASSume that we are all atheists. I am a Christian. Yes, you can be a Christian and not be an AH. It is also ironic when someone who forces their personal beliefs gets offended when their target fight back. You get wqhat you give, and that is a dictatorship. If you dont like gay marriage, dont marry a gay, but dont you dare play the victim when you tell me which consenting adults I may and may not marry based on what chromosomes I and my partner have. im bisexual, and no, im not one bit sorry. If I want to marry a consenting adult woman, thats our right, no one is forcing you to watch. ;)
(I know I am going to get a lot of atheist hate from this)
I wonder why you assume atheists will hate on you. If you mean a lot of people are going to disagree with you, I'd safe that's probably a safe bet. After all, it's a debate forum, it wouldn't be very productive forum if few disagreed. ;)
Everytime I see a gay person kissing it makes me want to vomit.
And that's your personal distaste. I really don't like seeing extreme age differences in relationships between as adults. To think you find someone sexually attracting when you could be their parent/grandparent or vice versa is skin crawling. I also don't like seeing any couple at all who are making out; when they seem attached at the lip.
But I recognize these groups of people still have the right to do so. My personal disdain for it doesn't mean a damn thing to their legal rights. And it should be that way anyway.
They are spreading their perversion
I would disagree with this anyway, but even if it was, many "perversions" are legal.
and enforcing their religion (secular humanism and gayness) on me. It ticks me off.
I'd like many claims proven here.
First, that this is their religion.
Second, that they're enforcing this religion.
And third, that secularism and humanism are a religion. Humanism I will give a little bit of leave-way, we could debate whether it's a religion, movement or philosophy but I'll just give it to you.
I dunno man, not once has a gay person ever come up to me and enforced their "religion". Usually when two guys make out, they do it, like, over there... Away from me.
On the other hand, there have been plenty of times where I will be minding my own business and someone bothers me by asking if I've found Jesus. Honestly, I haven't found him yet. He's a really good hider. It really ticks me off.
You are wrong. Marriage is the joinging of two PEOPLE. And evn though we don't agree with incest, it is only society that has a real problem with it. There is no factual evidence saying that it is just plain wrong. If some guy wants to marry his sister, go ahead. I think it is wierd, but it's not my place to impede on their happiness. If you want to compare the two, gay marriages so far have a lower divorce rate, lower spousal abuse, lower child abuse rates, higher income, the list goes on. So who's marriage is the screwed up one?
You are wrong. Marriage is the joinging of two PEOPLE. And evn though we don't agree with incest, it is only society that has a real problem with it. There is no factual evidence saying that it is just plain wrong. If some guy wants to marry his sister, go ahead. I think it is wierd, but it's not my place to impede on their happiness.
Wait a second. You just said that if the people wanted to marry their sister they can but you also said it would be weird. That's the same thing with gay marriage, it's unnatural and it's not common in our society. Traditional marriage is between one male and a one female and that's how it's always been and meant to be.
Let's start from the beginning here. Gays and lesbians have always existed on this planet. Sure the 'traditional' marriage you're talking about has only been between a man and a woman. But that is because in the past, society had so much more influence on people's lives. Before a few 100 years ago, religious beliefs made up the laws. And we humans believed that it was against our religion, something that was such a big part of our lives, to fall in love with or be romantically involved with someone of the same sex. And when all the world that we know is following something and everything that we have been taught since the day we were born is being contradicted by this strong innate feeling, it's a staggering feeling. You're suddenly unsure about everything, but at the same time you are unable to ignore who you are. In the past, being a homosexual was a sin and therefore illegal, so they were punished cruelly. For this reason alone, gays and lesbians in the past kept their feelings to themselves and lived a life of lie.
Homosexuality is not unnatural! Sure, it's not common in our society. But, can you really blame all the gays and lesbians for not coming out, when the society is giving them hell all the time?
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
C.S. Lewis, a fellow Christian such as yourself, would however strongly disagree...
It would be highly beneficial to you Srom to read The Four Loves, and other such works. I mean your argument is just stooopid really. How so? Well, I shouldn't need to explain myself, but if I feel sad that someone broke my pencil because I really liked it, is that really just the same 'love' one would have for a friend, or family member, or partner e.t.c. I hardly think so.. And neither should you.
Two people loving each other must mean that people can even marry their animals. ...because animals are people now too.
You're not getting my logic here. The person said in the description that we shouldn't stop two people who love each other if they wanted to get married. And if that's the case then they should marry their dog because people love their dogs, or they should marry their own sister or cousin.
I cannot get what is not there to be gotten in the first place. Believe me, I understood your argument; it is a false parallel and logical fallacy. That was my point, which you clearly missed.
I mean, for starters, my dog can't say "I do." I tried reallllllly hard to marry my dog, but when the priest asked him if he took me as his husband, he just licked his balls. I was devastated.
There are laws against marrying your cousin or sister or whatever because reproducing with members of your family severely increases risks of genetic defects. Two siblings having a child is very likely to put a strain on state health budgets. And it's not moral to conceive a child knowing this.
1. I think organized religion is weird, but I'm not stopping people from doing it.
2. I didn't realize we were worried about the continuity of mankind?? There are 7 billion people alive and overpopulation is beginning to be more of an issue that the continuity of our kind. Also, a gay man can still have a child- he has sperm. Oh and adoption! There are so so SO many kids awaiting adoption that can be cared for by gay parents. Oh and what about old people and infertile people? They shouldn't get married? (Wow, lots of flaws, eh?)
3. What you wrote here literally makes no sense. Are you insinuating that once gays can marry, everyone else will be forced to marry their own gender? Because, uhhh..... that's not how it works......
50 years ago, people said the same thing about interracial couples. No one cares what you think is disgusting. I think you're disgusting and nasty. Maybe I should make your existence illegal.
