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Do you think Kim Jong-un should have been aborted?

Sitar and fromwithin should want to abort babies to minimize the chances of people like Kim from being born.


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Very stupid

Side Score: 3
2 points

No but he should have been raised better. He should have been raised to help his people, not help himself.

Side: Stupid

Kim Jong-un was an innocent baby until his twisted father taught him to hate.

A Baby is innocent until his childhood shapes his humanity, or lack there of.

His evil father, and Grandfather are the one's who should have been killed before they runed any more children's lives.

I direct you to excuse #3).

This is what pro abortion supporters do to deceive the public & hide the inhumanity of their policies.

1) Steer the abortion conversation to life of mother & rape pregnancies, or Zygotes & first trimester abortions, all to deflect what they really support which is No Restriction abortions of all babies, even viable babies for any reason up to birth.

This is the first thing pro choice people do. The GOP has allowed extreme case exceptions since abortion was legalized yet we still hear every day about these extreme rare cases.

(by the way, rape pregnancies can be prevented within a day or two with a doctor visit)

2) They talk about the medical name of an unborn Baby..... Fetus. By using the name Fetus, they somehow believe it changes the status of the life growing inside the mother. Somehow in their thinking, a Baby that has not yet traveled through the birth canal is different than it is after it is has moved down that canal. WOW, TALK ABOUT DENIAL!

3) They talk about the supposed hard life these unwanted children will have if allowed to live. So in all their God like powers, they know the future of every Baby aborted? How many great people have come from poverty or foster homes, etc.? To be so arrogant to allow the deaths of innocent life because of some perceived hard life, or possible evil life is beyond diabolical.

4) Pro choice people like to say they do not personally believe in abortion, but would afford other's the choice to end the lives of their unborn Babies. Gee, how nice of them. I always wonder how a person who personally believes that aborting his own Baby is wrong because it is ending a human life, can support allowing other babies to die. PHONEY!

5) After all the scare tactics and deceptions, their next step is to lie and say they do not support late term abortions for any reason. They refuse to accept accountability for supporting all late term abortions of even viable babies every time they vote for Democrats who support it.

6) The Democrat Party and the Left even supports killing viable special needs babies, for any reason up to birth, for merely being different from them. That's like the Nazi mentality where we only want blond haired blue eyed people being born in Germany. In all their arrogance, they will deem who is deservng of life. Where is all their talk about diversity, inclusiveness, tolerance, compassion? I guess these special olympic children actully mean nothing to them. Their lives are disposable.

7) How many times do we hear the Left tell us how a mother has the right to her own body? Yes she does, but she has no right to take the life of the other body inside of her, (unless her life is in jeapordy). There are TWO lives involved, not just the mother's.

I am not here trying to judge any woman who has had an abortion. I'm trying to bring humanity back to our nation by protecting our most innocent vulnerable lives.

Side: Stupid
FactMachine(432) Disputed
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A Baby is innocent until his childhood shapes his humanity, or lack there of.

So you admit that there is no free will and that your environment/genetics shapes behaviour therefor the concept of sin is impossible?

I am not pro life OR pro choice, the issue is more complicated than the narrow dogmatic views of the polarized left/right paradigm. I see abortion not as an issue of morality vs. personal choice but as a symptom of the circumstances which make abortion necessary, and cause people to get abortions. Abortion is in some cases necessary, it is not "good" but rather an unfortunate necessity, so the issue should be about reducing the need for abortions rather than preaching morality or haphazardly murdering babies. Both the left and the right are looking at the issue completely wrong, instead of preaching morality you should be focusing on how the circumstances which cause abortions to happen can be abated, and instead of seeing abortion as a right and a luxury and selling fetuses to china the left should be trying to reduce the amount of abortions but still promote the right to have necessary abortions.

Side: Very stupid
FromWithin(7444) Disputed
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Your excuses for abortion are ludcirous.

You said...... "I see abortion not as an issue of morality vs. personal choice but as a symptom of the circumstances which make abortion necessary, and cause people to get abortions."

Abortion is not a moral issue, but an issue of humanity! It is taking an innocent human life!

You say the same exact things as pro choicers. Read 1) excuse once more because you keep saying abortion is sometimes necessary. EXTREME CASES ARE ALREADY ACCEPTED BY BOTH SIDES! QUIT USING THAT LUDICROUS EXCUSE!

You say we should be focusing on the circumstances causing abortion to happen. Do you make those same unbelievable excuses for murderers when they kill people? Do you excuse a mass murderer's actions by saying we must understand what brought them to kill people, rather than outlawing it?

HELLO? This is a simple case of taking innocent life, and when it comes to your life being protected, you are all for laws making your murder illegal!

Give those innocent babies the same protection you want for yourself.

Side: Stupid
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That whole family line reportedly came from a Panda bear. Good luck finding an abortion clinic for pandas. Especially if FromWithin has anything to do about it.

Side: Stupid

If Kim Jong Il had just not had sex in the first place...*

Side: Very stupid