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Debate Score:29
Arguments:26
Total Votes:34
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Do you think fighting someone about your beliefs will change theirs?

hey if u arent part of tdc dont join plz

yes

Side Score: 11
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no

Side Score: 18
1 point

Yes, extremely possible. There's been a couple instances where I've changed peoples views on Trump in an in real life argument.

Hmm, so yes.

Side: yes
1 point

It could, but it's not especially likely and it's generally not my primary objective.

Side: yes
1 point

What is your primary objective?

Side: yes
Jace(5222) Clarified
1 point

Pleasure.

Side: yes
1 point

It CAN, you just can't bank on it. Heck, the entirety of human history is about people with differing opinions fighting about it until one comes out on top. You can't conclude fighting is pointless, history disproves that. If fighting is pointless and never resolves the issue then we'd all still be stuck in the Bronze age.

Side: yes
1 point

with a gun to their head anyone can change their beliefs ;)

Side: yes
0 points

Here's a newsflash. People who know what they believe to be true, will not change their views most times.

Obviously with some issues, there are no obvious right or wrong answers and people's minds can be changed.

So tell me, when it comes to murdering each other, do you absolutely believe that your neighbor has no right to murder you if you have done nothing to him? Can someone change your mind on that obvious fact?

Should murdering innocent people be legal? You will never budge on your answer and that does not mke you an extreme right or left person. Obviously some issues are absolute and no one fighting you will change your belief.

This is why Conservatives know for sure (and will never be swayed) that killing innocent viable unborn Babies(for any reason) even days from birth IS WRONG AND SHOULD BE OUTLAWED!

Side: yes
3 points

So it shouldn't be allowed even if the mother's life is at risk? You honestly value an embryo more than the life of a sentient adult human? Or if the mother had been raped, and didn't want the trauma of bearing her abuser's child? That goes to show you religious people are fucked up nutjobs. You put your own shitty idealogy before the wellbeing of an innocent woman.

Side: no

And to that he shall never reply.

For proving that the side he is debating for is wrong.

They're not fucked up, just hypocritical. That's a necessity if you are to say that worshiping your fantasies is higher than every other thing. Especially crafting arguments against the rusted ideas. That'd be a sign of desperate clinging to what his superiors have told him. A convenient little worker, as I like to call it.

Seems like he represents the entirety of his religion in each of his comments.

Side: no
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

If abortion is so bad why do you support it?

Side: no
1 point

Reply to my question you heartless religitard

Side: no
FromWithin(8241) Disputed
1 point

WHAT A TOTAL FOOL YOU ARE!

I have a thousand times said that I and most all the GOP supports life of mother abortions along with other extreme case abortions.

Get a life and quit wasting our time.

Side: yes
1 point

The goal isn't to persuade someone who is stubborn. The goal is to change the minds of people who are undecided who are listening to the conversation.

Side: no
1 point

I agree completely, those who have made up their mind are unlikely to change. it is far more effective to convince those who have yet to decide. and if along the way the pressure to conform to the norm changes their position then you have killed two proverbial birds with one stone.

Side: no

No, but I like debating about stuff, I don't really see it as anything productive, it's more entertainment for me.

Side: no
1 point

No, the larger issue with debating your opinion against someone's belief is the issue is cognitive bias, more specifically with the notion of cultural cognition, for a general idea cultural cognition it the theory that out minds shape our opinions to conform to the views of the groups with which we most strongly identify, as such when attempting to argue with somebody, especially when somebody else agrees with them, allowing their beliefs to confirm one another. in fact the entire notion of Cognitive Bias is evidence to support the futility of arguing the point. and regardless, as long as their beliefs cause no harm to others, who are we to change that.

Side: no

No, regularly a well presented and persuasive viewpoint only acts as a catalyst for those with opposing angles and they become unreasonable and even irrational in their assertion of their counter argument..

Cartman is correct, it's the audience who are listening that may be won over, but seldom, if ever the opposing proponents.

Side: no
1 point

The moment you have to fight someone, it shows that the other person doesn't want to change their belief. The only way people might be able to change their belief is the if they put their beliefs aside and try and understand the other person's belief.

Side: no
1 point

After being on this site for 5 years it's not worth it. Everyone is stubborn on here.

Side: no