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I think that killing chickens for food or anything is wrong. I love chicken meat by the way.
I view all forms of life the same. You can call me crazy but i don't see a difference between a child's death and a fly's death.
People say that human life is valued more because we are able to do more things such as engineering, mathematics, etc. But is doing more in life means we are valued more?
I believe what we do with life makes human different. I believe it isn't life that makes us do what we do but it is the capabilities of our brain. It is not human life that makes humans human. But it is our capabilities of our brain that makes us humans.
i think killin chickens is wrong even tho i eat it but i think people shouldnt kill animals to eat them they are living things and would like to enjoy earth as we do
I really couldn't agree more... Killing something just to make it our food does sound like domination...but who can disagree that chicken is tasty?? :-D lols
yes , we are human beings but thats not a mean we can not kill chicken for our food.if we kill the chicken for our food , we would not destroy our wild life.if we stop the eating chicken, how kfc run their wrold wide business.killing the chicken is not a crime.human being can show their consciousness in another way to save the wild life through make a well space
SkyCaptain is right. A person can engage in something that he/she thinks is wrong. And when he stated "you" he meant everyone. Not you as in Apollo.
I know me. And i do think that killing other forms of life in one single perception is wrong. In other perceptions, not. It depends on how i view on the situation. Everytime i eat food, i thank God for the life that went in to my food. I do have this sense of wrong whenever i eat meat. The reason why i eat meat is because the joy i get out of tasting meat is more powerful thank thinking that killing other forms of life is wrong.
A person can engage in something that he/she thinks is wrong.
No. They can engage in an activity that they tell others they believe is wrong. If you thought it was truly wrong, you would have no justification do it.
And i do think that killing other forms of life in one single perception is wrong. In other perceptions, not.
In what perceptions is it not?
thank God for the life that went in to my food.
And that is justification?
If I killed you and ate you, but thanked god for your life, would that make it right or justified?
I do have this sense of wrong whenever i eat meat.
Obviously not enough of a sense of wrong...
The reason why i eat meat is because the joy i get out of tasting meat is more powerful thank thinking that killing other forms of life is wrong.
Then you are addicted to meat. You have an addiction, you realize that, right?
No. They can engage in an activity that they tell others they believe is wrong. If you thought it was truly wrong, you would have no justification do it.
I can force myself to kill a random person. And i bet while doing it, i would feel pain in my heart doing it. Im not implying that i have killed someone or i am planning too.
In what perceptions is it not?
Survival is the answer. When you are face to kill another being for food, the reason is survival.
And that is justification?
I would say yes on a religious stand point. If God exists, and if i have the notion that humans are the ONLY species that God cared about, then yes, i would say that is justification.
If i killed you and ate you, but thanked god for your life, would that make it right or justified?
If my notion, above, is correct, then no because i am a human.
THen you are addicted to meat. You have an addiction, you realize that, right?
hmmmmmm, i am not sure. I don't see myself going crazy for meat at first glance of meat or if i haven't eat meat in a while.
But if you say that i cannot eat meat for a month or year, i would respond: are you kidding right?
FYI everything you eat was once or is still alive, EVERYTHING. If your or anyone else's guilt cant get past that then perhaps you guys should all kill yourselves to avoid killing anything, or you could eat dirt, rocks or plastic and see how long you brain is capable of doing anything.
So, Thinker.....how about the wanton murder of carrots? They are living, breathing, procreating and important to the world we live in. And the argument could be made that the life of a carrot is more beneficial to the environment than a human, since they are oxygen producers and killers of no creature.
I dont think killing chickens is wrong because that's how one of the many meals ate. But i do think the way the chickens are tortured and abuse before being killed are wrong .
I strong believe that killing chickens for food in not wrong, because it is a natural system that human need to eat and almost every food is produce from lives. so if we don't kill then we have to die.
No. Humans are naturally herbivores. We are not supposed to be eating meat- it is unnatural to our bodies.
You don't "need" meat. It is an addiction. Humanity's greatest addiction. It has negative effects on the body, yet we continue to eat. That is the very definition of an addiction.
if we don't kill then we have to die.
That is utter and complete bullshit. Vegans don't die after a few days because they didn't eat meat. In fact, vegans are on average healthier than meat eaters.
This is a valid point. I think it is possible to kill animals without torturing them, and if chickens are being tortured, then that would change the way I feel about eating them.
Yes! Even though chicken are one of the food chain we eat but in real life chicken are being whip and squish on their head or beating to death in the factory.
Yes, because one day a super chicken saviour will be born the size of a grown man and will have the power from his chicken lord father to free his captured brethren from the terrible reign of the the humans. He can spit out fried chicken and uses it to choke his enemies. He runs through the underground organisation call 'KFC' targeted toward fattening their enemies before the final battle where the fate of the world will be decided. So I ask you for the sake of humanity to sot hunting these murderous creatures.
Yes, because one day a super chicken saviour will be born the size of a grown man and will have the power from his chicken lord father to free his captured brethren from the terrible reign of the the humans. He can spit out fried chicken and uses it to choke his enemies. He runs through the underground organisation call 'KFC' targeted toward fattening their enemies before the final battle where the fate of the world will be decided. So I ask you for the sake of humanity to sot hunting these murderous creatures.
The title is Do you think killing chickens for food is wrong?, so if you can't figure out how my two words are relevant by yourself, then you should just leave this debate now.
so if you can't figure out how my two words are relevant by yourself, then you should just leave this debate now.
How about your two words being so out of context that they are absolutely irrelevant and so YOU should be taking your stupid brain and leaving this debate right now?
Are you fucking retarded? Like seriously? Okay, here is the simple version;
I said "food chain" because as humans, we are higher up than chickens, meaning it doesn't matter if we kill them. Well done, you have successfully made yourself look fucking retarded in front of everyone. Cheers.
I said "food chain" because as humans, we are higher up than chickens, meaning it doesn't matter if we kill them
Who made the food chain and what is its sanctity? What is "higher up"? Where the fuck is it written that we are higher up than chickens (whatever higher up means)? And where the fuck is it written that it doesn't matter if we kill them? Why doesn't it matter? Who says it doesn't matter?
you have successfully made yourself look fucking retarded in front of everyone.
Whoever thinks that, is most probably as retarded as you. Hence, I care a damn.
You sir, are a fucking retard arguing an invalid point, purely because you are butt hurt that you don't understand that yes, there is a fucking food chain. Do you see grasshoppers eating lions? No, because they are lower on the food chain you limey fuck. Stop arguing something you cannot win; it was entertaining at first, but now you've just become irritating with your stupidity.
are a fucking retard arguing an invalid point, purely because you are butt hurt that you don't understand that yes, there is a fucking food chain.
I would say the same for you, that you are a fucking retard for not knowing a damn about the food chain. Your information is that of a school boy. Go beyond it and you will know there's much more to your definition of food chain, than you could imagine. If you still don't understand what you are missing, your intellect could be way below average.
Do you see grasshoppers eating lions?
No. But that in no way explains why we should eat chickens. Use your brains if you have any. If we really were above chickens in the food chain, ALL OF US HUMANS would be eating chickens to surive. You wouldn't have vegetarians and vegans in this world. Vegetarians and non vegetarians aren't seperate species. Both belong to one specie. And if this specie was really above all others, ALL members of this specie would be eating the lower ones to survive. If you don't understand this, you might as well go back to school if you aren't still in school.
I don't understand why so many libertarians support companies rights to do this, and other hugely negative business practices, in complete freedom and privacy.
Apparently corporations are not subject to animial abuse laws...I could see the assemby line...maybe, because they don't know what's going on because their brains are the size of a peanuts...but the way they are tossing them around, and especially the way they are randomly killing them is JUST WRONG on so many levels
That video is horrible... Killing chickens for food fine we are part of the food chain. but being killed like that is just cruel. At least if you kill a chicken for food do it quickly not that way.
Actually, humans really aren't part of any food chain. We just eat whatever the hell we feel like. And I know, I'm sick for finding that funny. But meh, whatcha gonna do?
I'm not sure what you are striving for, but I wish you luck regardless. However, I ask that you do not preach the "evils of meat" to people who do not think like you.
Yes, but people aren't contantly going to demand that Jews be killed. People aren't going to subsist mainly on Jews for survival. Jews haven't been an integral part of the human diet for the past 4000 years. And most importantly, people haven't been preaching to other people about how it's alright to kill Jews. Even those Neo-Nazis know when to shut their mouths.
We don't scream at you for living a different lifestyle, all we ask is that you return that favour.
I was disputing what I thought was your defense of the method of production shown in that video, because you were disputing debateleader who was wanting to strive against what he saw as an injustice that was happening in the video
...I wasn't disputing that chicken should able to be eaten.
I'm sorry. I thought debateleader was striving t be a vegan, and I was wishing him luck on his lifestyle choice but asking him not to preach to others. I haven't even seen the video because it's some troll trying to get some shock milage.
So, if we don't eat these chickens, that means we'll have so many chickens that it's possible we won't have the resources necessary to feed them all. The only other option would be to, of course, release them, or to kill them enmasse for no reason.
If we release 18.5 billion chickens into the wild, I think people can figure out that would not be very good for the ecosystem(s).
So, in conclusion, no, killing and eating chickens for food isn't wrong.
Right now, in the world, there are 18.5 billion chickens
Yes, because humans are mass breeding them to feed their addiction.
we eat about 8 billion a year
It takes more than a year for a chick to grow to a bid enough size to slaughter.
So, if we don't eat these chickens, that means we'll have so many chickens that it's possible we won't have the resources necessary to feed them all.
Are you legitimately retarded? The only reason there are that many is because we kill so many for food.
So, in conclusion, no, killing and eating chickens for food isn't wrong.
Or. You could stop all chicken production right now. All chickens alive will die. But no new ones will. No more meat for all humans. That is feasible.
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But you don't care if the chickens die. You have to fuel your addiction (which is what meat is). Stop trying to justify your acts and admit you kill innocent animals because of your addiction.
First of all, thank you for using ad-hominom attacks on my arguement, it makes you seem much smarter and better than me and it shows me the flaws of my arguement.
I did not mean 8 billions chickens are born and mature in a year. I meant that 8 billion chickens are eaten a year.
But you seem to think "Oh, if we stop mass-breeding chickens, that means that people will just stop eating meat and no more chickens will die."
I have enough just enough respect for you at this point to think that you will be able to see what is wrong with this arguement.
First of all, thank you for using ad-hominom attacks on my arguement
Oh cry me a river...
I did no such thing.
I meant that 8 billion chickens are eaten a year.
And what do you think would happen to that number if people stopped eating meat?
But you seem to think "Oh, if we stop mass-breeding chickens, that means that people will just stop eating meat and no more chickens will die."
Well...that is true. If there is no meat to eat...how will people eat it?
But that is not what I am saying. You defended the righteousness of eating meat by saying it is impractical to release billions of chickens into the wild. And while this is true, it has no bearing on the righteousness of killing chickens. You haven't given a valid argument.
Well, then, I suppose "are you legitimately retarded" is a compliment?
The second one was a clarification, not an arguement. You seemed to think that I meant 8 billion a year were fully raised from birth to maturity, so I said otherwise.
And the last one convinced me that I need to be more precise.
That is not true. That is in no way true. Raising a chicken is not rocket science. Raising three chickens is not rocket science. Making a black market for chickens is not rocket science. The technology we have to execute these chickens painlessly is complicated and not foolproof. The technology we have to give chickens even the modicum of comfort they have now is complicated. So, instead of farms, we'll have tiny, uncomfortable coops. The chickens will be up to their necks in what can only be described as chicken sludge. People who want to eat meat regardless will get violently sick. And unless you think meat eaters deserve E.coli, which might as well be just throwing off the mask and giving the moral high ground to me, that isn't right.
So, if we don't eat these chickens, that means we'll have so many chickens that it's possible we won't have the resources necessary to feed them all.
How odd you people don't even know that chickens are unnaturally bred in factory farms to be able to feed you non-vegetarians. If you won't eat mean, they won't be bred and there won't be billions of chickens in the worlds.
Do you think chickens are running about on the streets and picked up from there to be put on your plate and in your fat stomach?
I'd like to know how you know whether I am fat or not. I am 135 pounds, which I don't think is fat. I think it's pretty reasonable. Of course, you're a vegetarian, so that means you're much better than me. Of course you know.
Crops are unnaturally grown and sprayed with pesticides and mutated purposefully to be more resilient. And I like the thinking that "as soon as it's not needed, it'll disappear" like all the chickens will disappear and go to the chicken fairy land as soon as we stop eating them. And I also like how you think just because chickens aren't bred anymore, people will stop eating them because they all think like you. Extremely sound logic.
Crops are unnaturally grown and sprayed with pesticides and mutated purposefully to be more resilient.
Because if you don't do that you will die of hunger.
And I like the thinking that "as soon as it's not needed, it'll disappear" like all the chickens will disappear and go to the chicken fairy land as soon as we stop eating them
Eat the final lot and stop breeding the next lot. Common sense.
And I also like how you think just because chickens aren't bred anymore, people will stop eating them because they all think like you.
You caught that logic from the air above your head. I never gave that logic. The debate here is if people should kill chickens for food or not.
See how dumb that sounds? Saying we'll die of hunger if we don't eat veggies is the same thing to me.
The second point was already refuted back up there.
And the third response makes me think that the one fellow wasn't just inordinately thick, but that I'm the only one that thought of this.
Stopping the production of chickens is wrong the same reason Prohibition was wrong. It didn't stop drinking, and its poultry counterpart it sure as hell won't stop consmption of fowl, whch happens to be a more popular pastime than getng hammered.
You know what it did do though? Make it a hell of a lot more dangerous. Crimes spiked like bad punch during the Prohibition. You recognize the name Al Capone? His gang ran on selling bootlegged booze.
Booze is one thing, chickens are another. If you ban or even stop mass chicken production, guess what's going to happen? If you somehow miraculously stop chicken production without outright illegalizing it, a bunch of half baked farmer wannabees are going to buy whatever chicken eggs they can, raise em, and then slaughter and eat them. The chicken won't enjoy having it's head bloodily twisted off by some 400 pound pile of cartilage, and the fact that the aforementioned pile will contract a disease from the chicken and lack of safety regulations and die. Say what you like I didn't lose my internal organs to e.coli last time I ate a McChicken. Not everyone agrees with you, and some will to fatal lengths to disagree with you.
Now if you ban it, that goes right off the deep end. Chickens won't even be given a modicum of respect. You think that the coops right now are bad? Try imagining a malnourshed, covered-up-to-the-breast in waste fowl being sold for ludicrous. Amounts of money. And let's not forget the crime wars for territory. As much as I'd love to see 12th grade history textbooks describe in detail the "American Chicken Wars", it wouldn't be very fun for those living in the times.
Now, before you reach for the keyboard and type in something about reaching, remember that there were people like you who passed the Prohibition bill, only seeing the surface and not the consequences.
That it is systematic is not a negative in and of itself.
That it is torturous is not an intrinsic quality of the question that is up for debate...if it as humane as possible it is still killing chickens for food.
That it is a massacre is really meaningless in this regard...just an emotional appeal that otherwise means we're killing a lot of chickens.
What do you mean by unnecessary? Remove chicken; now you have to remove all animal life if I'm abiding by the logic that I believe you are. This means removing fish -- the sole (pun intended) significant source of the omega-3 fatty acid DHA, purported to be the reason that human brain size exploded over the last several thousands of years. How are you defining necessary?
So, why don't you ask that killing horses or cows or pigs or even Chinese dainty - insects for food is exactly wrong!? I think you are going to say that people should not eat any meat and to be a vegetarian. nevertheless mentioned all points are also the foods for people and also they have many vitamins, irons, fats, proteins etc.
nevertheless mentioned all points are also the foods for people and also they have many vitamins, irons, fats, proteins etc.
Vegetarians are as alive as you are. They get all the vitamins, irons, fats and proteins in vegetarian food. Look around you, meet some vegetarians and ask them.
Even if we stop eating chickens, other animals will eat chickens. It's inevitable! So if we stop eating chickens, should we force all of the other animals into not eating chickens?
I don't see them unnaturally breeding chickens in factories, debeaking them and killing them with machines. They will eat whatever they find to survive. Unlike humans who will do so for a mere 2 minutes taste.
LOL what? In science there is something called the food chain! Actually learn something instead of being a hippie? hey like you said then why don't we eat you?would that make you feel better?
LOL!! Another one ranting about the food chain. Tell me Mr Blockman, if your head is not blocked you might like to consider actually absorbing what is meant by the food chain. If animals were really our 'food' as per the food chain, we would ALL be eating animals. You wouldn't have the terms 'vegetarian' and 'vegan' in the dictionary. Get it?
Vegetarianism doesn't have much to do with the food chain we are still part of it people deside to go against the circle of life and become vegetarian (No offence to vegetarians) Thats just my opinion. :P ><
The video reminds me of the roller coaster of life.
When they are on the conveyor belt, it's like being on a roller coaster. Life is a lot like a roller coaster. There are some fun parts and some scary parts. There are ups and there are downs. Sometimes you get banged up a bit. Sometimes you accidentally fly off the thing and you are greeted by an early horrible death. Sometimes you're just fated for an early horrible death. But no matter what happens in between..., in the end..., you become food. Food for humans (if you're a chicken) or food for worms (if you're a human).
o my god, first of all let me just say that i started laughing as soonest i saw this question, And second really? that"s your argument that people are actually supporting?
Let me just say that i love chicken like i love chicken tenders chicken fried chicken wings. grilled chicken and i don't care how is killed as longest is cooked is all good,
I know this seems like a strange debate but I was sat by my friend and he knows I love chicken and said to make this debate to see how many responses I would get and I laughted so hard when I saw how many acctually answered to this XD ROFL
Well it is part of the food chain and just part of life. If your saying killing chickens for food is wrong then your saying killing all living things is wrong. Yet plants are living things. So are you saying we should all starve?
