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Debate Score:38
Arguments:34
Total Votes:40
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Do you think that "fat" women should be able to model?

I don't really know if I'm allowed to be partial here. But, whatever. When I say "fat" I mean someone who doesn't care about their body. 

Yes

Side Score: 27
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No

Side Score: 11
3 points

Yes, at livestock markets along with the rest of the dairy cows, providing they were well fed and properly treated.

Side: Yes

Should fat women be able to design? Clean? Serve food? Be bartenders?

Modeling is a job like any other, and I find this question quite ridiculous, because if someone seeks an overweight model then that's whom they will hire.

I also think you need to get your head out of your own ass and realize that modelling is more than front page clothing magazines. There are models for various products and services that have nothing to do with whatever definition of beauty you choose.

Side: Yes
BadassOdin(17) Disputed
1 point

Man, How absurd. "It's just a job". What a restarted thing to say. There are things that DISABLE you from doing a job. Like, a colour blind man cannot become an astronaut. A paralysed man cannot work in the trades. Someone with Aspergers cannot be a surgeon. Those disciplines require something. And that something needs to be attained. In the case of modelling; you need to be attractive. Nor I or ANYONE I know thinks that fat women are attractive. And, it just promotes a shit lifestyle

Side: No
1 point

What a restarted thing to say.

I can assure that the only retard here is you.

In the case of modelling; you need to be attractive.

Like I said - you have a delusional idea about what modelling is. Who cares if a girl advertising for headache medication is thin? No one... but you, which is kinda weird and obsessive of you to be honest.

And, it just promotes a shit lifestyle

Modelling is a shit lifestyle, whether you're too thin or too fat it is equally damaging to your body.

Side: Yes

Let the market decide.

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Side: Yes
BadassOdin(17) Disputed
1 point

The market only allowed plus size models because there were so many upset people saying that it should happen. And, even then. There are very little plus size models

Side: No
HighFalutin(3402) Clarified
2 points

I guess the market has spoken.

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Side: Yes
1 point

Modeling is free market. If the clothes modeled by "fat" women sell then they'll be asked to model again, if they don't they won't. Same could be said for whether they're pretty or not. Same could be said for different races. Same for the very aged, or the disabled, or the very short.

Side: Yes
1 point

The argument isn't whether you think people should be fat or not, its whether they should be able to model.

Modelling is completely opinionated, like Grenache said, its a free market.

If you don't like said model (Keeping in mind, this can apply to any size, race or age) then that's no problem, its whether the intended audience do or not.

Side: Yes
1 point

Well it wouldn't make much sense for some skinny bitch to be modeling plus size clothing, now would it! Fatties are PHAT, yo!

Side: Yes
1 point

Haha, I suppose that's a valid point. Here are random words to extend the character count so I can post this

Side: Yes
1 point

"random words?"

Side: Yes
1 point

The women in this world are of a variety of sizes; ranging from petite to curvy. I believe that modelling shall not be limited by any particular range of sizes not only because that depicts quite a shallow frame of mind, but the main objective is in fact to provide women and shoppers of varying sizes a realistic image and representation of how they are likely to look in the outfit of subject.

Side: Yes
1 point

I think most people pretty much covered it. There are different clothes for different body styles, the best way to properly display the clothes is to model them to the correct body type, be it a larger woman or thinner one.

Side: Yes
1 point

everyone should be able to model. What defines beautiful?

Side: Yes

Modelling is for mainly advertising the product. And with clothes, you cannot be targetting only skinny people's clothing. Unless you consider the money of fat people less valuable. Ex. Rejecting adele's money

Side: Yes
1 point

Is the person healthy? Then yes, the women should be able to show off her body however she likes. If she is not, then no. Modeling serves as an example to others on beauty standards. If this person is unhealthy, she is giving off the message that it is ok to be unhealthy.

Side: Yes
1 point

Well, I think that modeling firms should be able to choose who they want to model. I am happy to see overweight models getting jobs, but I still don't like how it's not diverse. Nothing but gorgeous women and men get the jobs, and that makes me somewhat sad. Without plastic surgery most people will always look like they always will, and cherry picking only the best to sit and have their photos taken in clothing. I'd like for there to be some relatively mediocre/plain Jane models that are there to actually model the clothing instead of reinforce the "sex sells" mindset. Ah well, this is the way the market goes, and there isn't much that you can do to change it.

Side: Yes
1 point

I think that women should be able to model for many reason! There clothes if all we care about is the clothes than why do we care about what the girls look like. Saying no "fat" women shouldnt model is probably the most stupidest thing i have ever heard in my life because not everyone who is gonna buy the clothing is gonna be "skinny". It does lower the self esteem of bigger women and thats why so many people have eating disorders and depression. Women have should have the right to be a model even if they are bigger because they are still beautiful no matter what. dosent matter what they look like on the outisde its what they look like on the inside!

Side: Yes

I would say No as modelling is meant to show off the clothing or accessory that the model is wearing. If a woman is fat and is supposed to model a specific product, the woman would not be a good representation of the company or the product that she is supposed to model.

Side: No

I am not saying this because I am against fat people, I myself consider myself fat

Side: No
Atrag(5666) Disputed
1 point

Consider yourself? If your BMI says you're fat then you're fat if it doesn't then you're not.

Side: Yes
heather_908(4) Disputed
1 point

Exactly modelling is to show off clothing so why care what the models look like. It is not showing a bad reputation for the company at all it is showing that the company loves women all shapes and sizes!

Side: Yes
1 point

Fat women do model for publications that cater for larger women ; unless your fat through some medical or genetic disorder there is no excuse for it as it's sheer laziness and over eating gets you that way ; ive yet to meet anyone who wished to be fat yet I've met many who desire to be thin and fit .

Side: No
1 point

When employers hire employees, the intent is to maximize profit. A model's job is to sell clothing, and making that clothing look attractive is an essential aspect to the job. Like it or not, fat people simply aren't nearly as attractive as conventional models, so no profit-maximizing company (every company) should be hiring fat models. Businesses exist to make money, not to provide charity.

Side: No
0 points

So, when I pick up a modeling magazine I expect to see a small framed girl with a sweet body. Not 40 tons of "I'm beautiful the way I am". Honestly. Why the hell would we allow women who are too lazy too go to the gym and get fit to models? So we can make people feel better about their weight issues? No, that's stupid. I want you to feel bad about your weight; Make it your muse to get healthy you obese prick. Whenever someone argues that larger women should become models; it's just them trying to justify their own weight. they're just looking for something to take solace in. A model is someone that is supposed to be beautful. Now, people argue "too each their own" And yea, that's kinda true. But, do me a favour and walk around the block. Find some guys and ask them what their dream girl looks like. You will almost NEVER find someone who is like "Man, I want a a nice fat girl. Something I can really grab you know. Like, I want the king size bed to be justified."

Side: No
2 points

Why the hell would we allow women who are too lazy too go to the gym and get fit to models?

Modelling is not something ''we'' or ''you'' either allow or ban. Modelling is a job, businesses are looking for models, and whichever person they may choose that accepts the job will do the job. Be it a thin or an overweight person.

I want you to feel bad about your weight

There are several diseases that cause overweight or obesity, so I find that a bit cold. Not to forget a very common thing called pregnancy, which not only makes women feel fat, but also means that they'll likely never be as thin as they were before.

A model is someone that is supposed to be beautiful.

Find some guys and ask them what their dream girl looks like. You will almost NEVER find someone who is like "Man, I want a a nice fat girl. Something I can really grab you know.

Uhm actually plenty of guys say that, I've heard plenty of guys say they don't like stick figure girls, and they even use the same phrase you mocked ''something to grab''. Why do you think fat fetishism is even a real term? It is even a category on most porn sites. It's fine that you have your preferences but it's kinda stupid to think that whatever you prefer is standard for the whole world.

Side: Yes
BadassOdin(17) Disputed
1 point

The discussion wasn't about "who get's the job". It was if they should be eligible. And, very few do get the job. The only reason they have been getting it is because a vast majority of people are saying that it's "hurting peoples self esteem". To adress your other points. Even assuming they do have a disability then cause them to have a larger mass. That doesn't make them special. I mean, I get that you wish that this world was a utopia: But, it isn't. Not even close. If I work in construction for 10 years then I lose an arm. I don't work in construction anymore. That's the reality of it. And, thirdly. Either you are lying about you "friends" or they themselves are fat (presumably you are too if you're affiliated with a large quantity of people who have this mentality). Now, you might assume that's absurd. But, people lack the confidence to attempt to get something out of their league; as a result they lower their expectations. Hence your friends saying that want a women who doesn't even take care of herself

Side: No
Grenache(6053) Clarified
1 point

How often do you pick up modeling magazines? And when you do what is your interest in them? .............................

Side: Yes