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Debate Score:29
Arguments:22
Total Votes:31
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Do you think the School Prayer Bill Should Come Into Place?

Yes

Side Score: 12
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Side Score: 17
1 point

I am just wondering if you're talking about public or private schools in this debate....

Side: Yes
iamdavidh(4856) Clarified
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Private schools already can and do have organized prayer. Why would it be about private schools?

That is an interesting point by comparison though, that while there is already more than ample opportunity to send a child to be indoctrinated even more thoroughly than home life allows, many christians want to ensure they have opportunity to indoctrinate other people's children as well... meanwhile not a non-religious begrudges either the opportunity theists have to send these kids to private schools nor their right to pray privately at a publically funded school where and however they would like.

Still though, christians will play the victim role when the ruling is overturned.

Side: Yes
1 point

Well, I'm from Canada so we have catholic schools that aren't private. The christians will be overturned but does this bill include prayers of all religions? In the case of the usa, Christians or any religious will have to go to private schools for religious teachings. I'm happy with our catholic schools!

Side: Yes

The reality is, no one can possibly stop anyone else from praying. So, who needs a bill? But organized or mandatory prayers; why bother. They would only become a platform for indoctrination, in any school setting.

Side: Yes
2 points

That sort of makes sense. I would never want to say prayers of another religion. Even though I go to a Catholic school and we pray, I still pray silently when I want, and that should go for the kids in Florida, they can pray when they want if they want. The billl just doesn't make sense to me

Side: Yes
5 points

If we are talking about the Florida Prayer Bill, no.

"Its approval came over the objections of senators who said the measure will lead to prayers at school events that students can’t get out of, including possibly in classes, and that some young students will have to listen to prayers or risk being ostracized because they come from a different religious tradition than most of their classmates."

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/02/02/school-prayer-bill-passes-fla-senate-heads-to-house/

Contrary to popular belief, students can already pray in school, teachers and administrators cannot pressure students to pray, that is what is not allowed-- school sponsored prayer.

I don't like the Florida prayer bill, because it will result in majority religious beliefs to be promoted in a way that students of other faiths or of no faith cannot avoid, without the risk of being ostracized. Minority groups will be marginalized. It gives students free reign to preach whatever they wish in front of an audience.

Side: No
2 points

I don't think there should be a prayer bill because I usually like to pray at school before meals and also pray to God in my head and just talk to God.

Side: No
1 point

Bohemian pretty much said it all.

Who's this god who wants these big shows of fealty anyway?

Public prayer isn't about god, it's about people who want attention and to show everyone else how holy they are.

And in this misguided attention whoring they are ostracizing those who do not share their superstitions while also making the entire religion look blatantly anti-American, separation of church and state being a founding principle and schools being state run institutions.

If you want to pray, pray. No one is stopping anyone from praying.

If you want to do it publically you can do that too.

You can even have organized prayers anywhere which is not a public state-run institute.

It's completely unnecessary that christians should need to invade schools as well with their ongoing war against all things not overtly christian.

Side: No
WVRN212(41) Disputed
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That is a rather unfounded assumption...people who do not pray only in privacy may also do so in fellowship with those of similar beliefs. My wife and I say grace regardless if we are at our own table or at a restaurant. My Muslim friends pray at all their appointed times because of the tennants of their faith...not because they want to "show off" as you assert.

Side: Yes
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

praying to yourself at your table isn't organizing a prayer meeting in the auditorium.

Side: No
1 point

Hell NO! Prayer is and should be a private affair and NOT a public one. Is meditation allowed in school? nO. wHY? Because it is a private thing. As an atheist I find it rediculous to waste students time with prayer. It is a place of learning and knowledge NOT superstition. i would remove my child from ANY manitory prayer meetings etc.

Side: No
1 point

I think moments of silence are sufficient for this. If you are a theist you can pray to whatever deity you believe in, otherwise you may simply have time to read, reflect, etc. This is a better way to respect the personal beliefs of each student.

Side: No
1 point

Never. There is zero reason to subject all students to religions in school. In my opinion is is just going to statistically express the majority religion and intimidate others.

Side: No
1 point

What happened to the freedom of choosing no religion? What if I suddenly decide that I'm an agnostic?

Side: No
1 point

No. At schools (Most schools at least) they have a moment of silence after the announcements so students have a moment to pray or, in many cases, not to. In my opinion this is good and follows the seperation of church and state. A school prayer bill, however, does not seperate church in state and should not even be considered.

Side: No