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 Does Christianity depend on the insanity of it's followers? (16)

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Does Christianity depend on the insanity of it's followers?

It appears that the degree of belief in Christianity is in direct proportion with level of ignorance of it's followers.
The incoherent ramblings of ''the faithful' on this site would bear witness to this self evident truth. 
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The tragic truth is that believers mostly never had any choice in the matter of their belief as they were taken from infancy and had religious belief instilled in them by parents , preachers and broader society in general .

If the same set of beliefs were put to the same people in adulthood without ever having had any previous exposure to religion or the concept of god most would dismiss the assorted god tales for the obvious nonsense they are .

jeffreyone(1383) Clarified
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The tragic truth is that believers mostly never had any choice in the matter of their belief as they were taken from infancy

The cliche idiotic argument you usually post here.

What about those from different belief backgrounds who converted to christianity at matured ages?

Terrorists, armed robbers, atheists, muslims, etc.......

And a lot are seven times educated, Knowledgeable and intelligent than you could ever possibly be.

Dermot(5736) Disputed
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Interesting , so infants choose their religion ? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

I'm glad you accept that terrorists , armed robbers and Muslims are in fact good Christians .... you must feel right at home in their company πŸ‘‹

Nope. Atheism depends on its followers being ignorant and uneducated on religion and basic philosophy.

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Though I agree that there exists a group of professed "Christians" on this site that major in "incoherent ramblings", this is STILL America. I can't imagine how much longer it WILL be given the current administration ... the "administration of incoherent ramblings", but we must always fight that insanity.

Some people seem to forget, or admit, that there are many REAL Christians that are "liberals", and accept the rights of others to believe what they wish. To ME, Christianity depends on THEM to get control over that insanity that is largely ignoring The New Testament and trying to turn their religion back to an ancient entity of hate and torture. Islam is having a problem even getting OUT of THEIR ancient practices. Christians getting back into old ways is a recipe for disaster! Radicals of ANY religion are a danger to everyone! We need those "liberal Christians" to get control of the radicals, like a few on this site.

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Hello A:

Victims of brainwashing are victims - NOT nuts.

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Antrim(1287) Clarified
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''When I was a child I spake as a child, I understood as a child: but when I became a man I put away childish things''-- Corinthians, 13-11.

In other words everyone develops into adulthood and has the opportunity to make mature judgements of the events and teachings of their childhood.

Those who opt not to enter the world of reality but instead consciously decide to remain in the fairy tale world of their childhood are only victims of their own immaturity and/or stupidity.

This choice to reject the real world in which they find themselves only serves to highlight yet another one of their character flaws.

jeffreyone(1383) Clarified
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Top ten world highest IQ's 6 are christians.

Isaac newton was christian. Leonardo Da Vinci believed in the existence of the christian God.

Lord kelvin was christian.

Of the above listing, choose those you can compete with in intelligence and wisdom.

Don't reply with an unrelated long ranting. Prove your intelligence not grammar.

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Does Islam depend on the insanity of it's followers?

It appears that the degree of belief in Islam is in direct proportion with level of ignorance of it's followers.

The incoherent ramblings of ''The Faithful of Islam" would bear witness to this self evident truth.

It's a 2 way street when it comes to religion !

Antrim(1287) Clarified
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You're absolutely correct about the insanity of Islam but whilst it is a loosely related topic, essentially it is a different issue which should be presented for debate under separate cover.

I don't agree with your assertion that it is a ''two way street when it comes to religion''.

I feel religion, all religions,( and okay, Islam in particular) are in a one way cul-de-sac which leads to one enormous lunatic asylum.

outlaw60(15368) Clarified
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But religion is not going away so what really is the point of attacking one religion. I just don't understand it but if it makes sense to you that's all fine and do note i don't care if one believes in a God or not it's not my place to judge nor criticize but what i can tell there is a religion that wants to control the earth through terror and that religion i have a problem with.

We can agree to disagree i'm all good with that.

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Atheism is what happens when you don't study theology, philosophy, or have common sense.

WOW! The bigots are out in full force. It's funny how the same bigoted judgmental people constantly spew their bigoted hatred for Christians.

It's amazing as we watch America slide further into the gutter with every censorship of religious expression on public land. But of course displaying the severed head of Presidemt trump is ok on the public walls of our Colleges.

These bigots must have had problems as a child and need some counseling to get over their hatred for whomever from the past.

Fools blame an entire faith on the actions of a few. It's sad they are so blind to their dysfunction.

It is those who hate Christians who should look within for dysfunctional insanity. There is help out there for you. GET SOME!

You do realize that by holding onto your hatred of an entire faith, because of things that happened in your childhood, you are enslaving yourself to a life of hate, holding grudges, unforgiveness, and misery.

Break the bondage to your bigotry. You will enjoy lie much more for doing so. Slaveowners had to break their bondage of hate and so can you!

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"Insanity" isn't a fair or wise word to use. All you do there is cause believers to get defensive and hostile toward your argument.

What Christianity depends on is "faith". They tell you that themselves. Constantly. When a nonbeliever hears "faith" they think, "ah, yes, faith is belief in a magical super being and not being bothered by arguments or evidence to the contrary". And when a believer hears "faith" they think, "ah, yes, faith is belief these wonderful stories of love and sacrifice and the reward for doing the same are all real."

Without faith there is no Christianity. It depends on it.

The religious believe it is noble and wise to hold onto faith. They believe life is not worth living without the hope of faith.

The nonreligious believe there is little difference between Christian faith and between belief in Astrology. They believe a life shaped by bogus Astrological readings is just being a fool for ancient myths, and that Christianity does that as well.

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Without faith there is no Christianity. It depends on it.

This is true. And yet....it's kind of gray in its application.

Let me try to explain, one must have faith to believe in religion but it only gets you up to a certain point. For some, there are experiences that bypass faith and give evidence to the believer. It can, I suppose, be argued that they would still have to have faith to attribute those experience, that evidence, to God or Angels or whatever that particular person believes in however faith can only be so strong without an evidence or experience that supersede's it.

But I do think what you said is fairly accurate.

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Alright, and I'll admit I was "gray". But in a sense, the fair and accurate way to talk about the comparison is to be gray. Adding a positive spin that hey some people may have seen or felt things that make it not gray to them is actually an example of inserting some personal bias. And yes, the nonbelievers would say that whatever you see or feel which tips it toward full acceptance is just your faith convincing you that's what you're supposed to believe you experienced.