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Debate Score:55
Arguments:32
Total Votes:67
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Challenge Debate: Does God Exist?

gocreation(62)

Yes

Side Score: 25
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AtheistBSA(72)

No

Side Score: 30
2 points

The eye...can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously.8 Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain -- the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.

Side: Yes
AtheistBSA(72) Disputed
1 point

It does with the eye and brain, have you ever rehearsed this ever? and a single cell only need Hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, carbon, sulfur, and phosphorus normally makeup more

than 99% of the mass of living cells. which can all be found out in space,

http://www.africamuseum.be/research/biology/vertebrates/img/fig4-brains.jpg Evolution of brains

https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/43/79543-004-C3F00EE8.jpg evolution of eyes

Side: No
2 points

Which came first, the DNA or the Protein?

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Side: Yes
AtheistBSA(72) Disputed
1 point

So which came first, proteins or DNA? The discovery in the 1960s that RNA could fold like a protein, albeit not into such complex structures, suggested an answer. If RNA could catalyse reactions as well as storing information, some RNA molecules might be capable of making more RNA molecules. I had no idea, i am not an expert on it, so this is a copy paste definition.

Side: No
2 points

God can exist fine without proof. You don't need proof that God exists. He can exist outside of proof and laugh at atheists trying to batter Christians about their God.

Side: Yes
AtheistBSA(72) Disputed
1 point

WORST ARGUMENT EVER!!! And you tried to come to me and tried to debate me and know your all salty and butt hurt, i know this is 21 days late, but it had to be said.

Side: No
1 point

Proof God exists:

Raised from the dead

All over the world people who are medically verified dead – sometimes they have been dead for days – come back to life, after a christian prays for them. This happens all over the world, in many cultures… It is an amazing reality.

resurrection deadThe Bible contains several resurrections from the dead. Jesus Christ resurrected several people from the dead and he himself rose from the dead, to prove that he is the Son of God who gives eternal life to those who believe in him.

But Jesus Christ also commanded his followers to not only heal the sick and cast out demons, but also to raise the dead.

Does that indeed happen today? Are people being raised from the dead?

If you would go to the ministry of Rolland and Heidi Baker in Mozambique you would be absolutely stunned to hear how often people have been rises rom the dead in their ministry among the poor. They say they have stopped counting the instances where dead people came back to life, after somebody of their team prayed for them.

They counted at least hundred cases of resurrections and then stopped counting…

This is happening all over the world and we will hear more about this, as christians worldwide are starting to rediscover the commands that Jesus Christ gave us to raise the dead. God is the source of life and he wants people to live to the full.

Side: Yes
1 point
Supporting Evidence: , (www.everystudent.com)
Side: Yes
AtheistBSA(72) Disputed
3 points

1. Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.

There are billion of billion of stars which have there own planets, and we have found 3 planets 90&#xis;h of habitability like earth, out of the HUNDRED OF BILLION A TRILLIONS,AND WE ONLY SEE ONE OF OF MILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF GALAXYS

2. Does God exist? The universe had a start - what caused it?

BIG BANG, already explained this...

3. Does God exist? The universe operates by uniform laws of nature. Why does it?

Shit does change in the universe, look up issac newton and he will explain it all, if a planet about the size of earth was in orbit with earth on one side of earth gravity would be doubled and one side would have none at all.

4. Does God exist? The DNA code informs, programs a cell's behavior.

Ever heard of cancer, thats where cells have gone rogue!And the DNA shit is stuff i hoped you learned in 8th grade

5. Does God exist? We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him.

Its says in the beginning ¨I was an atheist at one time. And like many atheists, the issue of people believing in God bothered me greatly.¨ I have met many christian who converted to athiestism and not a single atheist i know has ever converted to Christianity, and i am not bother by you believing in a imaginary friend.

6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God revealing himself to us.

False already debunked this.

Side: No
gocreation(62) Disputed
1 point

Issac Newton was a creationist.

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Side: Yes
gocreation(62) Disputed
0 points

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men evolved equal, that they are endowed by some other people with certain inalienable Rights…”

Imagine if Thomas Jefferson had chosen to put these words in the Declaration of Independence instead of his actual words, which reference our Creator as the source of equality and inalienable rights. There are some very big problems with grounding equality and human rights in anything other than in a transcendent source (read: God). First off, if we really have inalienable rights as humans, and these rights were merely endowed by other people, we are left with the question of how other people can endow inalienable rights. After all, what constitutes human rights to one society may not constitute human rights to another society. And which people are the people who endow these rights? The Nazis and Communists, to cite a couple examples, certainly didn’t endow us with these rights. As Frank Turek and Norman Geisler point out in I Dont’ Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist:

If the Moral Law doesn’t exist, then there’s no moral difference between the behavior of Mother Teresa and that of Hitler. Likewise, statements like “Murder is evil,” “Racism is wrong,” or “You shouldn’t abuse children” have no objective meaning. They’re just someone’s opinion, on a par with “chocolate tastes better than vanilla.” In fact, without the Moral Law, simple value-laden terms such as “good,” “bad,” “better,” and “worse” would have no objective meaning when used in a moral sense. But we know they do have meaning. For example, when we say “society is getting better” or “society is getting worse,” we are comparing society to some moral standard beyond ourselves. That standard is the Moral Law that’s written on our hearts.

Moral progress requires a moral standard to progress toward

And the concept of progress, in terms of social justice, makes no sense if there is no Moral Law which transcends the opinions about justice held by various people. In order for such a thing as progress to occur, their must be a moral ideal toward which to progress. But who or what provides this moral ideal toward which to progress? The moral standards of one particular group of people? Which group of people? By whose standard does ridding our society of racism, for example, constitute progress? Certainly not by the moral standards of the Nazis or the Klu Klux Klan. C.S. Lewis (as cited by Turek and Geisler) notes the need for a moral standard which exists above and beyond subjective human opinions about morality:

“The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard, saying that one of them conforms to that standard more nearly than the other. But the standard that measures two things is something different from either. You are, in fact, comparing them both with some Real Morality, admitting that there is such a thing as a real Right, independent of what people think, and that some people’s ideas get nearer to that real Right than others. Or put it this way. If your moral ideas can be truer, and those of the Nazis less true, there must be something—some Real Morality—for them to be true about.”

Indeed, if there is no Moral Law which transcends subjective human opinions about morality, then changes in morality would be nothing more than changes in moral fashions. A return to institutionalized slavery would be akin to a “retro chic” trend in clothing…such as when 1960’s era suits worn on the hit TV show Mad Men became popular again.

Atheists are fond of arguing that our morals evolved as a result of amoral natural processes. But this stance is wrought with problems. Evolution implies progress, which again brings up the question of how changing moral fashions could be deemed progress rather than merely change. Secondly, if our morals evolved, we are left with the question of why some groups of people did not evolve the same moral values as other groups. Did we not allegedly evolve from the same common ancestors as the Nazis and the Klu Klux Klan?

Natural forces cannot produce morality

Put another way, the easiest way to see that amoral natural forces of evolution cannot be the cause of a moral values such as “Slavery is wrong,” or “Genocide is wrong,” is to realize that the same natural forces which evolved these moral values must have also evolved the contrary moral values (held by such groups as the Nazis)…”Slavery is right,” and “Genocide is right.”

The indifference of natural forces towards moral values was eloquently expressed by the famous atheist biologist Richard Dawkins, in his book River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life:

“In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.”

The Holocaust was rationalized using Darwinian thought

The only “justice” considered by Darwinian evolution is that of survival. And the pitiless indifference toward God’s Moral Law displayed by the Nazis had its origins in Darwinian thought, as demonstrated by California State University Professor of History Richard Weikart, in his book From Darwin to Hitler. As Weikart points out, the racist Nazi rationalization for killing comes straight from Charles Darwin. Weikart cites Darwin from his book The Descent of Man:

“With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, the sick;….Thus the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man.”

Ending the lives of the “weak members of civilized societies” was apparently a moral virtue in Darwin’s opinion. At another point in The Descent of Man, Darwin (as cited by Weikart) writes:

“The civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world.”

Statements made by Adolf Hitler reveal his unmistakably Darwinist views. For example, Hitler once said:

“The law of selection justifies this incessant struggle, by allowing for the survival of the fittest. Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.”

Hitler also said:

“The stronger asserts his will, it’s the law of nature. The world doesn’t change; its laws are eternal.”

And exterminating “weak members of civilized societies,” those deemed by the Nazis to be unworthy of passing on their genes, is exactly what the Nazis tried to do. It is not difficult, then, to see why Weikart is justified in stating that:

“Darwinism by itself did not produce the Holocaust, but without Darwinism…neither Hitler nor his Nazi followers would have had the necessary scientific underpinnings to convince themselves and their collaborators that one of the world’s greatest atrocities was really morally praiseworthy.”

Considering the need for a transcendent source of morality, it is unsurprising that the civil rights movement in the United States was founded by Christians such as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. The success of the civil rights movement can be largely attributed to the fact that figures such as Dr. King were able to convincingly argue that the attitudes and practices of the white majority toward racial minorities did not comply with God’s Moral Law, as cited in the Declaration of Independence.

Side: Yes
1 point

How did the world begin?

Why our timeline was based on BC, Before Christ until you guys renamed it to Before the Common Era

Side: Yes
AtheistBSA(72) Disputed
1 point

Yea cause 99.65% people in the united states believed the bible

Side: No
1 point

History shows that Jesus was real.

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Side: Yes
1 point

Disprove it.

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Side: Yes
AtheistBSA(72) Disputed
1 point

For jesus to be real god must be real, watch this for it to be more in depth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMZ5L5037ac

The Christian god is all knowing and all powerful so if your god was all knowing he would know EVERYTHING... And if he was all powerful he could do anything, so would know about the serpent, adam and eve eating the fruit, jesus dieing at the cross and athiests being real, and who would go to heaven and who would go to hell, he also all good, so he would know that i am going to hell, but he could change that, if he wanted to, but hes all good, and all knowin..

Side: No
4 points

Okay, give me one piece of evidence of the CHRISTIAN god exists.

Side: No
4 points

Okay lets say people are being ¨resurrected¨ You still haven't proven the christian god to exist, yes you have proven that there are strange resurrections, and in the bible jesus brought people back to life, but thats like saying, Many people have gone missing over the years, but they where found, like in the movie FINDING NEMO, so nemo and his dad must be real. That´s your logic. And there have been about 90,000 missing cases in the US

Side: No
3 points

The world was created by a big bang, so everyone knows taht the universe is expanding, so it will eventually shrink, when all the stars die they will get smaller and smaller and smaller till tall the mass in the universe is in the size of 1 atom, and then the universe restarts.

Side: No
2 points

If the big bang was true, let me ask you a few questions.

Conservation of Angular Momenteum

If the world came from a spinning dot, why do we have several planets spinning backwards?

What exploded?

Where did the energy come from?

Side: Yes
AtheistBSA(72) Disputed
3 points

1.for one theres no backwards in space, and we have one planet, Venus, its a theory that a asteroid or comet hit it.

2. The big bang wasn't really an explosion it was more of a great expance,and the great expanse was made of gasses and they some of them collided and stuck to each other, which made them have a larger mass, which created gravity which brought more and more gasses and atoms together creating stars, then the planets where made of dust and other atoms compacting and getting hit with meteorites over a very long time.

3. I dont know, but neither do you.

Side: No
2 points

I think i have won... What about you??? Think you can still win this debatee?

Side: No
gocreation(62) Disputed
1 point

No, you haven't won yet.

I was taking a break.

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Side: Yes
AtheistBSA(72) Disputed
2 points

Yet the key word, I haven't won YET... Good luck i have debunk just about everything, and dont copy and paste :D

Side: No