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Progressivism to Anarchism/Revolutionism?

Firstly, new face, so hello! I am Bull Moose (reference to party of same name), I like politics and their science, I also enjoy banter, and love to debate. Especially theoretical politics.

Secondly, big words, I know; and also a bit confusing for some in this context.

Allow me to preface:
Progressivism is the push towards social reform. (Whether this is "progressivism" or progressivism is a completely different matter entirely.) Then there is Revolutionism, which is similar to Communism in the requirement of radical overthrowing of a government for the new social order. After which I bring in the anti-Christ of government: Anarchy/Anarchism, which is the abolishment of all government construct and is somewhat seen in Nietzsche's Übermensch (Over/Super-men) philosophy. (Every man strives towards being his own government thus becoming the ultimate individual.)
    Now, if we saw a progressive saying, "We should dissolve both political parties!" is it reasonable to assume that he is a revolutionist? I believe we can also infer that the public will see this as the breeding of Anarchy! Is this a rational thread for this to follow? I believe so. 
   This is only one example, but could you not say progressivism leads to Revolutionism and Anarchism? Do you think most would say that dissolving the Democratic and Republican parties as a seed of Anarchy? Is it a reasonable thought to think a progressive man of the people would start this track sincerely for the population?


I'd like to tag on here that Anarchy, I believe, is the start of reform. How about you?

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daver(1771)
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Progressivism is the push towards social reform.

Disagree. IMO progressivism leads to Socialism. Socialism leads to Communism. In the US, communists have taken the mask of the progressive in order to subvert our constitutional republic, and eventually replace it with a communist state.

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Grenache(6053)
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When progressives are fighting against the established power structure (when they're the underdogs) then yes we'd be talking about anarchism/revolution. But it's turned on it's ear when the progressive efforts are coming from the established power structure. Obama as President could not technically cause change through anarchism/revolution, he was instead the power elite pushing the progressivism. In this case it was the opposite, meaning rural conservatives sought to destroy progressive changes by hurling a bomb (Trump) at the Washington establishment. Which would mean the opposite of progressivism, conservatism, also can lead to anarchism/revolution, which counters your premise.

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