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Does The Bible Contain Contradictions?

Does it contain any contradictions? If so give some examples so the debaters can dispute them. I will put my 2 cents in as usual. Good Luck!

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Side Score: 12
2 points

If you think the Bible has no contradictions, you are either an idiot, or hopelessly deluded, or illiterate. Take your pick.

The Bible has so many fucking fallacies and contradictions that if it were written today it would never even get published. The editor would be fired.

The Bible is a collection of fables and myths from a largely illiterate Bronze Age tribal people. Who needed to invent a kickass sky god, and pronto, do as to compete with Baal.

The Bible is even contradictory on its primary stories!!! LOL. Like how the earth was made...the geneology of Jesus...and who found his empty tomb! They can't even get this shit right!

Here is a partial list of biblical contradictions. Only about 100 or so!

Take ten minutes to read, then come back here and tell me with a straight face your Bible has no contradictions.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/101 biblecontradictions.htm

Side: Yes
Deli_Subs(108) Disputed
1 point

I gave you a website of supposed "contradictions" in the Bible if you had at least a decent bit of curiosity you would have investigated and most likely come out with the conclusion that the Bible has no contradictions. To answer one of your claims "Like how the earth was made" you are referring to Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. Genesis 1 gives the creation of the universe while Genesis 2 refers to The Garden Of Eden. If you are going to make a claim at least investigate both sides and not presuppose that Atheism is true and Christianity is false with only a secular site as evidence. If you want to destroy Christianity this is one good way of doing it sadly all who have tried failed. And one last thing assuming the Bible is just "a collection of fables and myths" just shows how ignorant you are. Research the Bible (not only Genesis 1-13, or Job) from both sides and I can almost assure that your opinion will change. The link I will give you answers the Jesus Genealogy's "Contradiction". Good Day

Supporting Evidence: Jesus Genealogy (answersingenesis.org)
Side: No
ProLogos(2798) Disputed
1 point

This is a debating site.

The point of debate is to persuade others to your side.

Insulting people isn't a good way of persuading them.

If you read the bible you would know this, as it is a lesson in there.

You just insulted people in your argument, therefore you have not read the bible.

Therefore you don't know whether the bible has contradictions or not.

Side: No
Deli_Subs(108) Disputed
2 points

Trying to call hypocrisy does not mean that i have not read the Bible. And to be fair that was wrong on me and to be honest there was a whole range of things I could have said but i was conservative with any insults. If i remember correctly the only thing i said was "this just shows how ignorant you are" which is not really terrible I just called him out on it. By the way the Bible says "Be angry but sin not" and I didn't judge him as a person I judged his words at the very slightest. Your argument is quite invalid heck even if i was wrong (judging him as a person) the conclusion would not be that i am ignorant of the Bible as a whole it would have been i am ignorant of Matthew 7:1 which if you read the whole chapter allows judging a belief in a sensible matter as long as you are not judging the people who are believing. Also if you look at what he dishes at my throat and compare it with my reply. He basically uses religious satire while i correct in a mostly kind manner while offering advice along the way. So to reiterate I am not ignorant of the Bible, neither am I ignorant of how to debate (i actually argue without insulting unless necessary and even then it is mild) if anything you should have repackaged your words and sent it over to the other guy cause based on your description he does insult others, and finally yes i have researched the "contradictions" and there are none.

Side: Yes
Skepticseeke(10) Disputed
1 point

I agree that it is rude to insult people, it does nothing to address the validity of your argument, and it's likely to create defensiveness in you intended audience. However you are completely wrong in suggesting that insulting people is condemned in the Bible. Jesus called people hypocrites (Matt. 24:13-29), and a den of vipers (Matt. 23:33). Of course Jesus told us not to call people fools but I guess it's okay when he does it.

Side: Yes
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

The people who say the Bible contains contradiction

1) Do not know the Author

2) Do not try to understand how they are wrong.

I've looked at all these so-called contradictions, (most of them were discussed in my Christian college courses long before Al Gore invented the internet) they are not contradictions except when meanings are twisted or taken out of context or such closed minded biased approaches. An idiot is a person who repeatedly does something with self-detrimental consequences. I am not an idiot, nor am I deluded, not am I illiterate. It is more the m.o. of an idiot to be closed minded assuming his own knowledge is superior to God's revelation. All of the things which are said to be "contradictions" are pointed at like atheists discovered them and nobody knew they were there. They are not contradictions, the Bible never contradicts itself and if you think it does, it's your lack of understanding and being close minded and unreasonable trying to deny God's word is idiocy as He will hold your words against you and you will be judged by His Word.....kicking against Him only heaps up His wrath against you, and it's you who is being an idiot.

There is nothing new in your assertions, and using profanity does not add strength to your argument but rather makes you look insecure and afraid of reasonable contradiction against your own words, as does your usage of strings of insults against those of us who know God said what He said the way He said it and knew what He was saying when He said it and never lied.

That link you reference is nothing but proof of intellectual laziness. It's designed to make you feel smart when you don't know what you are talking about. You can easily find the logical rebuttal to every one of those points with the internet. I learned the hard way in college books and lectures and detailed note taking....and yes I have forgotten most of it but I know the basics well enough and you have to be super-lazy to not look things up on the internet. Nobody has ever proved the Bible to contradict itself, large sums of money have been offered for reward to anybody who can prove such contradiction and stood for decades unclaimed. The challenge is legal and if you can prove a contradiction under legal standards you can claim that money, you can sue for the advertised payoff. I think it was a quarter million dollars back when that amount would be like ten million today. Big mouth insults and profanity proves nothing, and using deceptive disinformation tactics to discourage people from looking for the truth is not wise.......but you don't fear God........and you're fighting a losing battle. You can't win fighting against God, you can't win by saying God is not King, you can't win by saying Jesus Christ is not LORD over all.

Side: No
2 points

The bible is absulutely heaving with contradictions. I personally believe that religion is false altogether eg God cannot create a rock he cannot lift if he has all power.

Side: Yes
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

You're just plain stupid, intellectually lazy, don't know what you are talking about. And your stupid "God and the big rock analogy which you could not even word coherently is absurd. It's like asking can God be nothing, if God cannot be nothing He is not omnipotent. Questions like that are not logical, a logical fallacy. The question itself is a lie.

And you are being religious, trying to justify yourself without God's mercy, trying to be your own pitiful little god who can do nothing for you but die, and then you hope it keeps you out of Hell. Keep up your religion and see where it gets you. Psalm 14

Side: No
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

Your barely coherent analogy which is supposed to imply God cannot be God is actually correct the way you worded it

God cannot create a rock so big that He cannot move it because He is omnipotent, and if He created a rock so big He could not move it then he would not be omnipotent. The question, and others like it, is the same as saying, "God must be able to stop being God or He is not omnipotent." That's the devil's argument, and you use it like a devil trying to make God go away so He can't rule against you.....and you are losing the argument, the argument is already lost, and you will be lost forever in Hell if you keep pushing it against God the Savior who died for you to save you from Hell.

Side: Yes
1 point

You, who call yourself Physics, should know that the largest weight a rock can have on earth is the weight of earth itself. After that, you'll be lifting earth from the rock.

Side: No

It contradicts reality.

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Side: Yes
2 points

The bible is full of contradictions. As always we should define our terms though.

Definition of contradiction taken from Merium-Webster online dictionary: 3 b : a situation in which inherent factors, actions, or propositions are inconsistent or contrary to one another.

The resurrection account alone is full of contradictory statements when you consider all four accounts. If the bible comes from the mind if God this should not be. However if the bible is just a collection of stories by men these contradictions are exactly what one would expect.

Here are just two clear contradictions in the resurrection story.

1. The women were afraid (Mark 28:9), the women were full of joy (Matt. 28:6-8)

2. Jesus allowed himself to be touched (Matt. 28:9), Jesus forbade people to touch him (John 20:17).

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes, Judas . . . just, basically everything about Judas and his Thirty Pieces of Silver.

How did he betray Jesus, did he kiss him on the cheek? (Matthew 26:48) or not? (John 18:3-12)

What did he do with the money he got for his betrayal?

Did he buy a field? (Acts 1:18) or did he throw it away, so that the priests used it to buy a potter's field? (27:5)

And how did Judas die?

Did he hang himself? (Matthew 27:5) Or, did he fall over headfirst in the middle of that field he maybe bought, and have his stomach burst open, spilling out his entrails? (Acts 1:18)

Yes, your Answers in Genesis website tries to address this, but like most of its attempts to resolve its Presuppositional position, it gets it wrong.

It tries to claim that both of these descriptions are true; but anyone with a basic understanding of logistics knows that it's pretty hard to fall headlong when you are hanging from a tree; and it's impossible to buy a field with the money you just threw down, and then hang yourself in the field you just died in which the priests coincidentally just bought with the money you threw away.

Side: Yes
Saving101(17) Disputed
1 point

Wonderful to know you are seeking to understand the Bible. Matthew and John are two of the four Gospel. Witnesses of Jesus life as a man. When two different people witness an event their recollection of the event will be different based on the point of view. That doesn't mean they are contradicting one another. This actually helps us get a full picture or understanding of the event. So to answer your question yes he kissed him.

Acts 1:18 is going to be hard to understand because your heart is hardened. “And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.”

‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The priests could not take the money so they spent his money for him. Example if your mom gives you $5 to buy her some milk. Just because you went to the store does that mean you bought it or could some one say your mom bought the milk because it was her money. So Judas' actions effectively bought that field.

Matthew (27:5) & Acts (1:18)

Again the two scriptures are painting a full picture for us not contradicting. He indeed hung himself and fell headlong. You are quick to jump to conclusions. Just because something is hard doesn't make it impossible. The Bible says he died by hanging himself. Never said he died by falling. Acts is describing what happened to his body after he hung himself. Also you don't know how elevated he was. Also I don't recall him hanging himself on a tree. One that refers to himself as one with basic understanding would be wrong to base his decision on assumptions.

Side: No
1 point

There are actually no contradictions in the bible. Most everything that people try to bring up are things that are either taken out of context or just not looked into enough in some way

Side: No
0 points

The Bible has no contradictions. I will leave my opinion at that so others can put their 2 cents in. I will finally leave a link to a website that talks about all the "contradictions" in the Bible.

Supporting Evidence: Contradictions In The Bible Scripture Index (answersingenesis.org)
Side: No
0 points

Not for some people who truly understand the bible and I confess I don't the bible as well as some people. Here is an example that I thought meant one thing but meant something else. Ever heard that saying "An Eye For an Eye"? Well as I understand it if some for example damaged your eye or damaged your arm people would remove both eyes from the offender or both arms where as God stepped in to say rather than making the offender complete disable [An Eye For An Eye, An Arm For An Arm] That's what I understood.

Side: No