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Religious liberty. Antitheist takeover.
Debate Score:21
Arguments:8
Total Votes:26
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Does a Christian or other religious buiness owner have the right to refuse service?

Religious liberty.

Side Score: 10
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Antitheist takeover.

Side Score: 11
Dermot(5736) Banned
3 points

If a Christian or anyone else does not wish to serve ceratain members of the public they should post a sign up on their shop front saying who they will and will not serve , but do they do this no , why ?

Because they do not want the public to accuse them of bigotry

Incidentally I bet my house on it if the president of the U S was gay and he asked a religious owner to bake a cake for him , the answer would be “ of course Mr president and there will be no charge ..... what an honour 🤩 I’m overcome 😇 can I lick your ass etc , etc

Side: Religious liberty.
2 points

No one should be legally obliged to engage in any activity which contravenes the teachings of their scriptures.

Those who compiled ''The Equality Laws'' should have built in the necessary clause(s) with the provision of an exemption addendum that would have protected the rights of people who refused to provide their services to anyone or any group whose request was incompatible with their religious beliefs.

Side: Religious liberty.

Yes, even though that couple might’ve been gay, the shop owner still had the right to refuse them service. I don’t understand how that case made it to the Supreme Court.

Side: Religious liberty.

Of course a person of faith has the contitutional freedom to say no to catering events that go against their faith.

Only in a Big Brother totalitarian state would they want to force us all to think as the Political correct Collective tells you to think. The Democrat Party is home to traitors destroying everything this nation once stood for.

Side: Religious liberty.
1 point

As a shop owner, you have the right to refuse service to someone. The person should not be upset by this for one main reason. Though they refused you, they are not profiting off of you. You did not pay them so therefore as harsh as it is, there are many other stores around.

The store owner absolutely has the right to refuse service for religious reasons. We have the first amendment which grants the freedom of religion. If your religion is against something such as homosexuality, then you have the right to believe that too. You also have the right to refuse people who request your service if they contradict your religious beliefs.

Side: Religious liberty.
3 points

In a nation with Constitutionally protected civil rights (like the USA) your business can refuse service only if

a) an objective standard for service were required (like cash not credit), or

b) a public safety issue is involved (like no shoes no shirt no service), or

c) the business owner has a reasonable expectation of peril (like they'll be robbed or cheated, or if the client has bad credit), or

d) they are out of the product or of the time to do the service for the client

You cannot use race, ethnicity, ageism, xenophobia, or religious belief as the basis for saying you will not serve them. To allow that reason would be to allow religion to trump every other Constitutional right to the individual.

Side: Antitheist takeover.
2 points

If I could upvote this more I would.

Opening a business that deals with the public means ALL of the public. So long as the person doesn't represent a danger and is following the rules set forth by common safety and business practices (shirt and shoes as well as paying for services with sufficient funds), it should not have the right to deny service due to religion.

Side: Antitheist takeover.
1 point

I think they should be able to. In defense of fairness though, the refused should be allowed to place a sign in front of his/hers business stating that the business refuses to cater to "certain people", whomever they may be. That would keep others from being embarrassed by refusal, and give others the choice of doing business with that establishment ... or not. I think, in this country, the practice of bigotry would be shorter lived. They would obviously keep their like-minded customers, but, The majority of Americans don't like bigotry ... or bigots.

That includes antitheists (almost entirely).

Side: Antitheist takeover.