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More faith to believe More faith to not believe
Debate Score:100
Arguments:90
Total Votes:107
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Does it take more faith to believe or not believe in God?

I encounter religious people frequently telling me that it takes more faith to be an atheist than it is to believe in god.  (Or believe a religion/be a theist)

I have my own reasons for disagreeing, but I'm interested in everyone else's reasons for which position takes more faith, if any.  

More faith to believe

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More faith to not believe

Side Score: 32
4 points

Faith involves believing something. Not believing in something is not synonymous with believing it doesn't exist.

1 year ago | Side: More faith to believe
1 point

It does take faith to believe in God here is a verse from the Bible.

Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

The verse basically says that without faith you can't please God and you must believe He exists and then He rewards those who earnestly seek Him/

1 year ago | Side: More faith to believe
1 point

By its very meaning, faith is the excuse given when one does not have a viable explanation, reason, or proof to support one's belief. Why do we rely on reason and logic before believing in every other part of life... yet, when it comes to the ultimate truth, THE most important matter of our lives, humans suspend rational thought and choose 'faith'? ( <--- indirect quote from The Atheist Experience)

To what end would people choose to take things on faith? Likely due to their place of birth (or familial beliefs), with no regard to analytical thinking. Conversely, 'faith' is not a factor in NOT believing in something. The vast majority of atheists have actually given thought to religion's being non-rational, and then deciding against faith. This clearly indicates the decision is not faith-based, but instead relies on research and evidence (well, the lack thereof) ;)

1 year ago | Side: More faith to believe

It takes not a single jot of faith to say "I don't know", it takes faith to say "I know exactly how everything happened, who did it, and what they want you to do".

1 year ago | Side: More faith to believe
1 point

It needs more faith to believe in God. Without faith we can not believe in God.

1 year ago | Side: More faith to believe

That was the whole point of the debate, SunialPani.

Belief in god requires faith, the lack of belief in god does not. Atheists do not need faith for their beliefs to be rational.

You need faith to believe in god, because it is irrational.

1 year ago | Side: More faith to believe
wjrstantn(1) Disputed
1 point

those who dont believe in God boast in saying they came to a RATIONAL conclusion by way CRITICAL THINKING. Yet theres evidence in science if viewed unbiasely would actually show that it takes more faith to not believe in a creater than to believe. The intricate details in scientific laws that point to a purposeful design/system in which world we live in is no accident and definitly not by chance. fr

1 year ago | Side: More faith to not believe

For people who do believe, it's simple for them. They believe in God because of x, y and z. However, for those who do not, they have all these facts, and statistics, and reasons... it's like they've researched and done so much to convince themselves of God's non-existence. I would not call it faith, because it doesn't really make sense to have faith in the fact that there is no God. Does it?

1 year ago | Side: More faith to not believe
riahlize(1560) Disputed
3 points

it's like they've researched and done so much to convince themselves of God's non-existence.

LOL Or maybe they're just trying to reach the correct answer because they care more about the truth than what they would rather believe to be true.

1 year ago | Side: More faith to believe
BookBird101(573) Disputed
1 point

Who's to say that I (and other Christians) haven't already got the truth, and you all are reaching for the wrong answers?

1 year ago | Side: More faith to not believe
1 point

Very Beautiful Question...!!

Firstly know the meaning of faith. It is - Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

To have faith in god is to have faith in those people under whose influence you are believing in god. But even those people have been told about god. A small child never thinks there is a man who is the creator of everything. So, god is a man made concept.

Not to have faith in god means not denying god but yourself trying to solve the mystery of god. I solved it and found it was not a mystery. It was a conspiracy. The god conspiracy. So not having faith is going against over half the world and having faith in yourself. So, For sure, It take more not believe in god because that means you have more faith in yourself, Which is a very great thing....!!!

1 year ago | Side: More faith to not believe
markml0528(1231) Disputed
1 point

Firstly know the meaning of faith. It is - Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

I am talking religious faith. The fact that you can believe in something like a God, without any evidence to support that proposition.

Not to have faith in god means not denying god but yourself trying to solve the mystery of god. I solved it and found it was not a mystery. It was a conspiracy. The god conspiracy. So not having faith is going against over half the world and having faith in yourself.

God conspiracy? What are you talking about? The only sense in which that would be right is how the world's christian apologetics are all trying to convince the world that god exists, when he really doesn't.

It's not that scientists or the atheists in the world are trying to turn people away from god.

In regards to it going against half the world, how does that even matter? It just so happens that half the world believes in a fictitious god.

For sure, It take more not believe in god because that means you have more faith in yourself,

It takes more faith to believe in god, because there is no evidence for god. It takes no faith to lack belief in god. It also doesn't necessarily mean you have more faith in yourself.

Do not confuse faith with justified belief.

1 year ago | Side: More faith to believe
TheMystic(38) Clarified
1 point

You are misunderstanding. We both are, I think saying same thing. You say god is fictious and I say god conspiracy meaning it was a tool used to enslave people in the name of god.

1 year ago | Side: More faith to believe


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