Does the USA need a 9% boost in military spending?
Oh mama!
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That's crazy!
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As leader of the free world it is important that America remains the dominant world superpower. The Chinese and Russians used the inertia of the Obama regime to built up their nuclear arsenals and conventional forces to a point where they have caught up with, or possibly overtaken the U.S.A. If anyone thinks that maintaining a military superiority is expensive try being at the mercy of aggressive nations such as the two aforementioned countries. America's allies must be forced to meet more of the expense of the west's defense costs, but even with that it will always be America to which the N.A.T.O. members will turn if and when an expansionist Russia starts to ''appropriate'' territory such as it did with the Crimea in 2014. China is sabre rattling and became emboldened by the inertia of Obama, and made claim to areas in and around the South China sea which has always been recognised as international territories up until now. The U.S, has deployed a multi ship carrier force to the international waters of South China Sea for routine patrols. This was after a, not so veiled, threat from China to keep out. Yes, America needs to make up the military ground lost during ex President, do nothing, Obama. Both China and Russia have become more muted since Donald Trump was elected President. Side: Oh mama!
Here's the side by side of the US with both Russia and China. This is NOT a case in either scenario where the US is in a position of weakness. It's nothing more than alarmism to say the country which already spends more than almost everyone else combined hasn't spent enough. The global political decisions about what to DO with our power is a separate discussion. Obama could have chosen to use it more. Maybe now Trump will use it more than Obama. It remains to be seen. But it's pure folly to say either of those nations has "caught up with, or possibly overtaken the USA." Side: That's crazy!
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Like the good little liberal you are, you always want less military spending and more social spending on bloated programs pandering to the Democrat low income vote. Just as the Left could not care less about the working man, they also do not care about the lives of military personel. All of our money should be spent on what the Left wants it spent on and the rest of us working folks can all fall into poverty as well. This way, big government is here to stay supporting all Americans in their impoverished lives. That has been the Left's game paln for decades. Trump put a hiccup in their plans... THANK GOD! Side: Oh mama!
Let's break down your argument. Like the good little liberal you are, you always want less military spending and more social spending on bloated programs pandering to the Democrat low income vote. You start off by giving your version of someone else's argument so you can attack it instead of making your own argument. This is the strawman fallacy. Just as the Left could not care less about the working man, they also do not care about the lives of military personel. Insulting the character of the left instead of making an argument. This is the ad hominem fallacy. All of our money should be spent on what the Left wants it spent on and the rest of us working folks can all fall into poverty as well. This way, big government is here to stay supporting all Americans in their impoverished lives. Back to your favorite weapon, the strawman. That has been the Left's game paln for decades. Trump put a hiccup in their plans... And finish up with a beautiful red herring. Congratulations FromWithin. You are a perfect example for what not to do in a debate. Side: That's crazy!
I'm not liberal. I'm a moderate independent. The only reason FromWithin and SaintNow (who are probably the same person) keeps saying that is because they define anyone who doesn't agree 100% with them as being a liberal. And equating criticism of military spending with the "Left" being selfish is lunacy. We spend as much as the next 10 or so nations combined. Comparison of the US with the next top two militaries does not reveal us to be at a disadvantage. Side: That's crazy!
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You are as Liberal as they come and you know what? You are ashamed of admitting it because it is such an extremist mindless ideology. I have no problem admitting i am a Conservtive, and do you know why? There is nothing in the Conservative positons that would make me ashamed of supporting them. Liberalism on the other hand supports even no restriction abortions. They lack the simple humanity to grasp the sanctity of life. Spare me any nonsense about proLife Liberals. When they vote for democrats, they are as pro abortion as it comes. You show me how many Liberals refuse to vote for the Democrat or other leftwing pro abortion parties because of abortion. Side: Oh mama!
Trump's budget, after massive cuts all over other places, is going to boost military spending by 9%. What do you think? http://www.reuters.com/article/ Reuters a Left Wing Rag is the best you got Progressive ! Progressives such as yourself don't won't spending on the military just more spending on entitlements that you Progressives love ! Side: Oh mama!
All entitlements (excluding net interest) total nearly 62 percent of all federal spending today. Given that the three major entitlement programs - Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid - now account for more than 60 percent of federal spending. Don't see you Progressives have much of a problem with that ! Side: Oh mama!
The U.S. spends at least twice as much as the next 7 countries put together! Those include: Russia; China; The U.K. Germany; Spain; Canada; France, and you could add some others .... especially after Trump leads U.S. closer to bankruptcy. That'll make it, what....the FIFTH time? This time he takes U.S. all with him! Putin is trying to reverse the table on U.S. and do to U.S. what WE did to HIM! What are friends for??? :-( Side: Oh mama!
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We spend 56% of our total revenue on the military, why do we need 65%? Our military is so large/strong that we could remain neutral just like how Switzerland always is. You know that's why the Swiss never go to war; because everyone their military is so strong. I think we need to stop having "conflicts" in other countries so that we can focus on our societal problems. We aren't the world police, and we definitely aren't perfect. I'm not saying we are worse off, but we have problems of our own that are a big deal to the people pumping our economy. I often hear that we police because we're the best. Hell, if we were doing "best should do all the work!", then where's the E.U.? They are fucking phenomenal, but we seldom see them fucking up everything. I'd love to see America pull a few things from Germany, France, Belgium, Switzerland, Finland, etc. Yet we keep wasting trillions on the military. Side: That's crazy!
The reference below predates Trump but it's the most recent international comparison of military spending I could find and was itself a fact check confirmed essentially true.
1) So basically, the US already spends as much on military as all the next (7 or) 8 nations in line combined. It's unfathomable that we are cutting domestic spending across the board just so our military spending can then eclipse the top 9 to 10 nations all combined. 2) And it utterly castrates the argument that our military must be badly out of date when whatever everyone else is buying is clearly just a tiny fraction of what we keep buying year after year. 3) And, strategically, it places the US on a collision course with it's own people not unlike how decades of Soviet Union massive military spending put it on a collision course with its people, too, until ultimately the Soviet Union got broken up and ceased to be a global power for a while. Frankly, this smacks of a plan to destroy the last superpower by following the path of the demise that took down it's top competitor. 4) And finally, it suggests that the top arms supplier on the planet is afraid enough of the things it keeps selling to everyone else that instead now it wants to go nuts trying to protect itself. Side: That's crazy!
Spending on Social Security, the largest federal program today, will surge by 77 percent, from $845 billion in 2014 to $1.5 trillion in 2024. Medicare is the largest health care program and its spending will surge by 72 percent, from $603 billion in 2014 to $1.04 trillion in 2024. You failed to mention the above facts Progressive ! Side: Oh mama!
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