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Does this answer what the "higher good" is for the problem of evil?

As philosophers, both atheistic and theistic, have studied the problem of evil, many have come to the conclusion that it can be solved by assuming for a higher good, something that could only come about through evil. Though this does not make God the author of evil, nor responsible for evil, as they have noted, the "higher good" has yet to be understood. Could the very beginning of the Bible answer this? Genesis 2:9 states the following: "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil." Right after this, God determines that it is not good for Adam to be alone, and decides to make a helper fit for him  (Genesis 2:18). However, before God makes Eve in Genesis 2:22, God marches all of the animals in front of him, showing that a suitable helped has not been found (Genesis 2:20). Could it be that evil is simply the recognition for the need of God, as Adam was shown the need for woman? Could it be that evil is simply so that we might have not the intellectual, but the personal knowledge of what evil is? Psalm 107 preaches a similar thing about suffering, and Romans 3:26 tells us that the cross was to show God's righteousness, being the just and the justifier. Could it be that suffering, evil, and all the bad things in the world are simply a result of the eating of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, in which spiritual death immediately resulted? Could it be that this tree garnered us a knowledge of our personal need for God in all ways?

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very very well put ..... I agree

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Our spiritual death (separation from God) is what makes us ask the questions, .. "who am I ? .. why am I here ? .. where am I going ?"

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Pascal said: .. "There is a God shaped vacuum in the heart of every man than cannot be filled by any created thing .. but only by God the Creator, made known through Jesus Christ."

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St. Augustine said: .. "Thou hast made us for thyself, O God, and our hearts are restless until they find their rest in thee."

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From God's vantage point, .. the problem of man is not just he is a sinner in need of forgiveness, his greater problem is that he is dead and in need of life ........

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http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=431#p431

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I am a Christian, and I approve this message. O friend, God is great and righteous! He is life, and love, and all manner of goodness. Christ's death on the cross was a means to the end, the end being God Himself. Aristotle claimed that there is an end to which all things aim; however, I claim now that God is the thing to which all things aim. And in Christ's death, in which Jesus, He who knew no sin, was made to be sin, He became our propitiation. God justly destroyed Christ, with an eternity of hell on the cross, exchanging places with us, getting what we deserved, and lavishing upon us His own righteousness, life, and inheritance. But in this means, Christ became the full expression of God's righteousness and greatness, through His love! Praise be to God! O friend, God is holding His hand out to you, just take hold of it.

Side: Yes

I'm agnostic right now and I totes like this argument. I think you explained it pretty well.

Side: Yes
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Whats stopping you, o friend, from being a Christian?

Side: Yes
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tl;dr

Side: No

That in no way explains how God can be all good, all powerful, all knowing, and not be responsible for evil. Nothing happens without God's permission. Please don't use circular logic.

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