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Debate Score:57
Arguments:48
Total Votes:57
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Does this make me theist?

I believe gods exist.......as human thought patterns that strongly effect human behavior. I don't believe in any supreme being that is worthy of worship, but I regard gods as real things, albeit very often poorly described (even in dictionaries).

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Side Score: 31
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I believe gods exist

This makes you a theist.

as human thought patterns that strongly effect human behavior.

This I don't really understand. Are you saying that Gods are just a figment of our imagination?

Side: Yes
atypican(4875) Disputed
1 point

This makes you a theist.

If my position is being viewed too simplistically, I can see how one would think that

This I don't really understand. Are you saying that Gods are just a figment of our imagination?

Yes, except this implies that they are thereby NOT REAL.

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
1 point

Yes, except this implies that they are thereby NOT REAL.

So your debate was just a rhetorical question? If you don't believe in God(s) then you aren't a theist, but saying you 'believe Gods exist' is the definition of a theist. Seems kind of contradictory to me.

Side: Yes
2 points

Is one of these "gods" omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent?

Side: Yes
atypican(4875) Disputed
1 point

The god of love may be. But I can only share my opinion about that if terms are exaustively defined in a formal logical dialog.

Side: No
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
2 points

Maximally powerful, maximally knowledgable, and maximally benevolent.

Side: Yes

The definition of a theist is somebody who believes in some sort of higher power or superior.

What the higher power does, or how much it interferes with our world isn't in the definition. Anyone who believes in the existence of a God is in fact a theist.

You can deny it, but you still are.

Side: Yes
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The definition of a theist is somebody who believes in some sort of higher power or superior.

Which if you weren't so ignorant, you would realize that I never claimed to recognize any being so described.

What the higher power does, or how much it interferes with our world isn't in the definition.

I don't think of god as a "higher power" but you keep on dishonestly pretending that i, like you, take a theist view of what god is.

Anyone who believes in the existence of a God is in fact a theist.

Maybe someday you will develop the capacity for lateral thought. Until then you will be a slave to the false choices you can't see past.

You can deny it, but you still are.

Just keep on thinking of god as a "higher power" while calling yourself atheist, and I'll keep on pointing out that atheists should consider that definition invalid.

Side: Yes
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Which if you weren't so ignorant, you would realize that I never claimed to recognize any being so described.

I am staying on the subject. We are debating what a theist is, not what you are.

I don't think of god as a "higher power" but you keep on dishonestly pretending that i, like you, take a theist view of what god is.

See there is your problem. God IS a higher power. If you believe something that isn't a higher power, then you need another name for it. Because God by definition is a higher power.

Maybe someday you will develop the capacity for lateral thought. Until then you will be a slave to the false choices you can't see past.

You keep saying I am insulting you. Consider this - I give you facts, and you just go on and on about how I am incapable of thinking outside the box or whatever you're doing.

Just keep on thinking of god as a "higher power" while calling yourself atheist

1. When did I call myself an atheist?

2. God is a higher power by definition.

I'll keep on pointing out that atheists should consider that definition invalid.

Funny, coming from someone who makes up his own definitions of God and Theism.

Side: No
1 point

Yes, a theist is the belief in any number of diety's. You are a theist.

Side: Yes
atypican(4875) Disputed
1 point

Theists don't view their god(s) in the same way I view them. They regard them as conscious beings, and I regard them as psychological phenomena.

Side: No
izazovnog(322) Disputed
1 point

Sorry, but like it enough you are a thesist. You can not be a atheist. You would beleive in no diety. You are a theist because you believe in a diety.

Side: Yes
3 points

No, you believe that people make up a reason to do things and call that reason God. You don't believe a God exists, you are not a theist.

Side: No
2 points

So you're basically saying that they exist in the minds of those that believe in them but they don't exist in reality. They're imaginary friends, that's what I'm getting from your statement. So, no, you're not a theist.

Side: No
2 points

It sounds like a case where one would say "I believe, that you believe..." For instance, if a person says God told them to murder so and so, and you got the vibe that that's really what that person believes, then you are admitting that you believe that person believes he was told by Gods to do the act, not necessarily that Gods really did it.

Side: No
2 points

Based only on what you said, no. It is all based on whether or not you believe these gods intervene in the world.

Theism: Belief in the existence of a god or gods, esp. belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal.

Side: No
1 point

You are a polydeist. A cross between deism and polytheism.

Side: No
1 point

If you don't regard them as things that are really watching us, then you are an atheist.

Side: No