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Donald Trump Wants A National Data-Base To Track Muslims
Here should be an interesting debate:
So, we've all heard stories of Isis, Boco Haram, and other terrorist groups. Here, we have Donald Trump, our most mocked, impersonated, racist aggressor of the century! But this candidate presents and supports a rather serious yet conflicting idea- to track all Muslims...
Now the question is for you to try and digest - Is there not any databases set up to "Track Americans" ? You ever heard of the NSA , IRS and Social Security ?
The Muslim filth has caused death and destruction in every country they infest. From Australia to Canada and from the United States to the whole of Europe. According to the appeasement brigade the west should do nothing for fear of upsetting these peace loving innocent souls, roars of laughter from the back stalls. Muslims have slaughtered 1000s of people in countries such as Kenya and Nigeria for no other reason than they were Christians. If the brainless fools who follow the teachings of the paedophile Mohammad, are so easily convinced that their Koran requires them to kill the infidels, ( all non Muslims) then none of them can be trusted and therefore the need for positive vetting and constant surveillance on their activities should be introduced as a matter of extreme urgency. The cost of this expensive process could be reduced and greatly facilitated by the introduction of a National date-base If Muslims wish to be accepted and respected in thier host nations then it is up to them to work at it. Let them openly and en-mass condemn the satanic acts of carnage by Muslim terrorists. Let them march in their 100s of 1000s to demonstrate against their murderous Muslim brothers who are living in our midst, ( courtesy of our politicians) and who have caused death and destruction to the people in whose country they contaminate with their presence. Let them adopt the standards and values of the U.S.A, such as free speech and sexual/gender equality and cease pursuing their barbaric sharia laws and backward customs such as the mutilation of the female genitals. The onus is on them, but in the meantime they must be regarded as anti American/westerners and treated accordingly. Donald Trump is one of the few sane voices in the United States today and should be voted into power when the opportunity arises.
A number of points on your drivel, firstly I sort of missed your opinion on the thread. Secondly when people don't have an argument they fall back on juvenile comparisons with the Gestapo or Hitler. Muslim filth are annihilating Christians throughout the world, Adolph wouldn't have tolerated such a scenario for 5 minutes. I don't want to kill anyone, nor see anyone killed. Instead of sending them to their deaths I would send them all back from whence they came/originated, and as a humane gesture I would issue them with $2000 dollars each over and above to their personal wealth along with a good supply of travel sickness tablets. Any survivors of life under Nazi Germany would probably want to give you a good slap.
when people don't have an argument they fall back on juvenile comparisons with the Gestapo or Hitler.
Except the arguments you are making here are identical to some of the arguments made by Hitler. So...
Muslim filth are annihilating Christians throughout the world
ISIS does not primarily target Christians. Their primary target is Muslims. If you wish to protect the victims of Islamic terrorism, destroying Muslims is not the way to go.
Due to your clear idiocy you comments don't really deserve reply but for accuracy I'll make a measured response. Nazi Germany under Hitler murdered some 6 million Jews just for being Jewish and the war which his regime started is estimated by experts to have caused 77 million deaths and casualties. I'm not advocating the death of anyone, not even the murdering Muslim filth who have slaughtered 1000s of Christians simply for their faith. How numskulls like you are even allowed on sites such as this is beyond me. Have you been living on the moon for the past few decades you brainless piece of contemptible shit? Read and squirm in shame and embarrassment at this abridged list of targeted acts of terrorism on Christian civilians and church workers by religious Muslims since 11th September, 2011. Does that date mean anything to you or were you on the moon during that barbaric atrocity? 1) 02/15, At least 147 people have been killed after Islamist terrorists attacked a Kenyan University singling out Christian students. 2) Bangui- 26/10/15;- three ordinary Christians are targeted, abducted and murdered by Muslims. 3) 19'10/15;- kalampete, Uganda, Muslims drag a mother of 8 from her home and shoot her because her husband converted to Christianity. 4) ;- Cyrenaica, Libya, An African Christian is beheaded by an Arab Muslim on video. 5);- 26/9/15, Bangui, C.A.R., A Muslim mob pour automatic gunfire into a Christian neighbourhood killing at least 21 Christians. 6) 23/9/2015,Hasaka, Syria, Three Christian Assyrians taken captive by Muslims and executed with shots to the head. 16/9/2015, Kadunung,Nigeria, Muslims attack a Christian community , killing a man and his six children. 9/1/14, Madagali, Nigeria, over 350 Christians murdered by Muslims when they invade a Christian village. 6/9/14, Gulac, Nigeria; more than 100 Christians killed by Muslims near a Christian Bible college. I have a further 45 foolscap pages containing another 700 authenticated cases of multiple murders of Christians by Muslims. I haven't added them up but it totals in the thousands. It's dirt bags like you and the likes of you who are the reason why the Muslim filth have been allowed to cause so much carnage and get away with it. Good God almighty, ''Muslims don't target Christians''. Are you for real?
''Faith turns Christians into targets''. ISIS produces a video showing the beheadings of Egyptian, and Ethiopian Christians. ASl-Shabaab has singled out non Muslims to kill at Garissa University College. Several of the world's worst Muslim terrorist groups, like ISIS, aim to create societies governed by strict sharia law which means that anyone who doesn't subscribe to such extremist views are enemies and in danger, especially Christians. The Italian prosecutor revealed that a network of Pakistani Muslims associated with al Qaeda planned an attack on the Vatican as far back as 2010. Ethiopia's government said that 30 of it's citizens were among two Christian groups being beheaded in Libya in a video. ''All praise be to Allah, the Lord and cherisher of the world. Man, man oh man, from where to the hell did you come, or is the answer in the question, i.e, hell?
it would be important to point out that it was sanctimonious fools like you with their policies of appeasement and misguided and misplaced good will who permitted Hitler's Nazi Germany grow into the most formidable war machine the world had ever seen. If the threat from the mad, military genius Adolph Hitler had been challenged in the early 1930s and confronted with fortitude and resolve WW2 would probably never have occurred. The global threat which Muslims pose will increase in frequency and barbarity until the likes of you are silenced so men and woman of substance can address the Islamic cancer, thus allowing worms like you get a free ride while they do the dirty, but necessary work of ridding the world of the Muslim terrorist filth.
You are a fucking racist swine like Hitler. My friend is Muslim, yet he hasn't blown anything up yet. You are a fuckhead who should rethink your life. Stop making sick racist generalizations.
Tracking Muslims is nothing like what Hitler (and others leaders) did to the Jews. Absolutely no comparison.
There is actually a direct comparison between tracking one ethnic/religious group at one point, and tracking one ethnic/religious group at another point. A direct comparison.
HELL YES we should track them! I don't care if they track me!
Big fucking deal - they might see me smoke a dubbie😳
Big hairy deal. I don't know why even legal citizens are so uptight about being tracked IF YOU R NOT A TERRORIST!?
Because some of us remember what happened when we gave a government this much power, and aren't exactly keen and watching it happen again.
Look at the countries like China and Switzerland where it's illegal to build a mosque. If you communicate with known terrorists the government needs to know that,
BTW Dyph -- Hitler didn't invent Jew hating, he merely took advantage of the fact everyone hated them. Hell Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews, he tried to give them away and no one (UK or US) would take them?!
Nobody liked Jews because they invented ushery/loan sharking - the same kinda money-changing shit that keeps us enslaved to the banks today....
I don't think I said anything about Hitler inventing Jew-hating.
If I can recall, I remember saying that Hitler only created a mass genocide for "the whole Jew package," this including the "money changing shit" you're talking about. Of course he didn't invent Jew hating, otherwise people would have just stood there like "what the hell is he talking about?" But because the Germans disliked the Jews for their wealth and is ushery, they agreed with Hitler's statements about Jews.
Did you know that Hitler may have detested Jews because
1) he blamed the Jews for losing WW1
2) he was not accepted into an art academy because of Jewish professors
3) he felt that Jews were stealing away jobs from the Germans after WW1
4) anti-Semitism was already prevalent, and Hitler just upped the ante
Islam is actually a peaceful and beautiful religion. I'm not Islam, but I have done extensive research of the religion and they do not like violence. Trump is just a racist knucklehead son-of-a female dog. He should not be president. Vote for Bernie Sanders.
The First Amendment protects the right to freedom of religion. What Trump wants is similar to the Jews in Nazi Germany being profiled and forced to wear star patches.
Don't take this the wrong way, because I am not disputing against your opinion. This is merely a clarification. See, the Jews were quite innocent back then. Hitler didn't perform a genocide for their religion, but rather for the whole Jew package. Here, we have the majority of every Muslim joining terrorist groups, attacking people for no significant reason other than to control. I would rather say that this situation is similar to America locking up the Japanese just to stay safe. But then again, I too believe that Trump is presenting a rather idiotic idea, but effective in it's own way...
"Here, we have the majority of every Muslim joining terrorist groups..."
There are 1.57 billion Muslims in the world. That's nearly five times the population of the United States. 50 countries out of 196 have a Muslim majority. If the majority of every Muslim were joining terrorist groups, the United States would be toast. There are 2.6 million Muslims living in the United States. If the majority of them were terrorists, we would be seeing terrorist attacks every day. Only a tiny fraction of Muslims are terrorists. Lets take ISIS for example. They only have 10,000-20,000 fighters. Even if we multiply that by 1000, that's only 1.27% of Muslims.
I see that you do not take over-exaggeration well, as typical for butt-hurt debators. Besides, why are you disputing when this should be a clarification? Clearly you don't know how to read before you click on the buttons. Also, great copying and pasting. Next time try paraphrasing from what you take from other sites. Nice statistics, still you're not proving any point. Again, your argument should be a clarification since you clearly can't think outside of the box.
I see that you do not take over-exaggeration well, as typical for butt-hurt debators.
I see you like to backpedal and pretend like you were just over-exaggerating, and then just hurl insults instead of being mature.
Besides, why are you disputing when this should be a clarification?
Dispute: a disagreement, argument, or debate.
Clarify: Make (a statement or situation) less confused and more clearly comprehensible.
I wasn't clarifying anything, I was disputing your claim.
Clearly you don't know how to read before you click on the buttons.
Clearly you should pay more attention in English class.
Also, great copying and pasting. Next time try paraphrasing from what you take from other sites.
The only things I copied and pasted were the numbers. If I did copy and paste you could easily find it with Google, so go ahead and show where I copied and pasted from.
Nice statistics, still you're not proving any point.
I'm proving that your claim that the majority of Muslims are joining terrorists groups is absurd. You can claim that you were just exaggerating, but I don't buy it. I don't expect you to know a lot about the real world since you're only 14, so I'll cut you some slack when you're wrong about something, but I'm not going to cut you slack when it comes to acting like a civilized human being. If you're just going to hurl insults, then go find someone else to debate with.
I wasn't debating against you in the first place, only with LibProlifier (well, it wasn't necessarily a debate, rather a continuous argument of clarifications). If you can easily claim that I was lying about over-exaggerating, then does that not mean that I, too, have the right to claim that you are copying and pasting? So I admit, YES, AS A FOURTEEN year old, that I am at fault, but you're no better to assume that what I metaphorically or exaggeratingly imply is merely a cover-up for mistakes. And if you're going to "disagree" with my tendency to over-exaggerate, you might as well just go around the world trying to correct everyone. Do as you might, but if my arguments are vague enough for you to not understand that statement, I sympathize for you and your perfectionism.
And then the little part where you say that I'm hurling insults instead of being mature...
What is there to be mature about for someone who simply cannot THINK outside of the box (I BELIEVE THIS HAS BEEN REPHRASED LIKE THREE TIMES NOW), and for you to dispute against immaturity, again, your hypocrisy has already shown. If I'm just a FOURTEEN year old that is naive enough for you to think so, shouldn't you be a proper role model, 'o master? Telling me to pay attention in English class and that I don't know enough about the real world...
Think before you speak (rather type, haha), because if you're such a mature adult, as you are implying, then you wouldn't need to go up to Google to find statistics. I mean, adults must know SO MUCH ABOUT THE "REAL WORLD." They wouldn't have to refer to Google to assist them on a dispute, right?
You're no better than me, so I suggest that if you're going to run off as a hypocrite and using age to degrade someone, then you're better off debating against someone that is inept enough to not see through your hypocrisy.
So what do you need, an apology?
I'm rather respectful to adults, so I'll apologize. :)
If you can easily claim that I was lying about over-exaggerating, then does that not mean that I, too, have the right to claim that you are copying and pasting?
No, because I have a valid reason to think you might be lying, which I'll explain below. You had no good reason to think I just copied and pasted.
So I admit, YES, AS A FOURTEEN year old, that I am at fault, but you're no better to assume that what I metaphorically or exaggeratingly imply is merely a cover-up for mistakes.
There was nothing in the context of your post that indicated it was an exaggeration. So it's unreasonable to expect people to assume anything different, especially when there are many people out there that treat all Muslims like terrorists. If you had responded with a simple, "I didn't mean it literally, I was just exaggerating," then I probably would have believed you and we both would have went on our way, but instead you resorted to insults, which is a common psychological defense mechanism people use when they are caught lying. Maybe you were just exaggerating, but your hostile reaction makes it look otherwise.
for you to dispute against immaturity, again, your hypocrisy has already shown. If I'm just a FOURTEEN year old that is naive enough for you to think so, shouldn't you be a proper role model, 'o master?
Sometimes being a role model means teaching people what it's like to be in other people's shoes. In this case I'm showing you what it's like to be on the receiving end of insults. You clearly don't like it, so hopefully if you have any empathy in you, you will stop being so hostile to people.
Saying you don't know enough about the real world wasn't meant to be an insult. I was explaining to you why I'm willing to cut you some slack, because I don't expect any fourteen year to know that much about the real world. They haven't lived long enough to experience all the intricacies, and there is nothing wrong with that, it's just part of life.
Think before you speak (rather type, haha), because if you're such a mature adult, as you are implying, then you wouldn't need to go up to Google to find statistics. I mean, adults must know SO MUCH ABOUT THE "REAL WORLD." They wouldn't have to refer to Google to assist them on a dispute, right?
First, my comment about maturity was about your hostile demeanor, not your knowledge. No one knows every single detail about every issue. My knowledge on this particular issue consisted of knowing that only a small minority of Muslims are terrorists. Just because I don't have every little detail and statistic memorized doesn't mean I don't know the overall picture.
Second, if I had just said, "most Muslims aren't terrorists" would you think that was a convincing argument? I seriously doubt it. An argument backed up with facts is far more convincing than one that is just a baseless assertion.
I'm rather respectful to adults, so I'll apologize. :)
An apology preceded by a bunch of insults. I find that to be very sincere and from the heart. /s
For you to assume that hostility is a way to cover up one's mistakes is erroneous. Are you excluding the other ideas as to way I confronted you with such an arrogant attitude? Perhaps I've had a bad day, and although I have no right to vent out anger on a complete stranger, hey, things happen. Not saying that today's a crpppy day, rather you have no right to assume my motives for hostility. Therefore if you have the right to assume, does that not mean I can, too? You fail to give sufficient and logical reasons as to why my hostility relates to a "cover up of a mistake." Hey, if I knew a person like you would roll along and tell me what colloquial phrases I should be using, believe me, I would have done it in the getco to avoid staying up at 11PM continuously disputing against your irrational assumptions. The reason why I showed hostility was (get ready for it) because I can act like a stuck-up bitch when disputed against. You should have clarified me instead, who are you to assume whether I was exaggeratingly or literally saying "the statement?" Beforehand, I had not even insulted you, and it would have been best if you just hit the clarify button rather than the dispute button. As you have said, to clarify is to make things clear. Please, get on the safe side, you were and are no one to determine what phrases I use.
Believe as you wish, but your hypocrisy is pretty evident...
And then....
For you to say "So hopefully...you will stop being so hostile to people."
First off,
Keyword: PEOPLE.
PEOPLE.
P-E-O-P-L-E.
Umm...can you please root out an example of when I have been unreasonably hostile to someone other than you?
Also, I don't mind being insulted as long as I've had my share fair of insulting. I was merely pointing out your hypocrisy, which you have labeled as "a teaching." Well, I believe I didn't ask for my parents let alone a stranger teach me moral values, but okay.
You say that fourteen-year-olds don't know much about "the real world." See, if it wasn't an insult, why bring it up? What does the real world have to do with my aggressiveness? What does it have to do with your list of statistics? Please CLARIFY.
I don't need you to "cut off slack" for a fourteen year old like me...
Your way of phrasing it would make anyone believe that you have attempted to insult them.
Okay, so your fourth paragraph is the only which I cannot dispute against, but of course you cannot see the sarcasm of my statements when I said "Adults must know so much about the real world." OF COURSE statistics improve your chances of mking a point, but people like me only see a list of numbers that try to make the amount of Muslim terrorists an understatement. So yeah, great usage of statistics and yadayadayada...
AND LASTLY
PLEASE.
I'm honestly dying. (EXAGGERATION)
An apology preceded by a bunch of insults?
Label each insult I have thrown upon you on the last argument I posted. Excluding calling you a hypocrite, that wasn't an insult. It was more of an explanation of how you can easily go against your "preachings" about civilized beings and whatnot.
And yippeee, you, alas, have been able to identify sarcasm.
I have better things to do with my time than continuing to argue over something so stupid, and I'm sure you do too. It's not like any good is going to come out of us continuing this. All it's going to do is aggravate both of us, so lets just drop it and move on with our lives. I'm sorry I assumed you were lying. I don't hold grudges, so as long as our next debate doesn't start with insults, this little incident will be water under the bridge. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Haha, at least you have apologized, and I forgive you (no sarcasm intended). I too have, while arguing, questioned whether the flood of insults were necessary, and although I have insulted myself just to prove my point, I apologize for insulting you.
In the future, if we do end up debating again and I sneak in a few harsh words, make sure you can argue against me without sounding hypocritical (well, at least to me), no offense.
Its estimated almost 300 million Muslims share the same types of views ISIS do. Sure its the minority, but its 300 million potential terrorists. Keyword potential. No one credible is saying that all Muslims are terrorists. But there is ~300 million POTENTIAL terrorists, based on their beliefs. Recruiting and radicalizing potential bombs is getting easier to these people. The minority argument doesn't work. Nazis were a minority, so were the japs that invaded china and raped and killed 300k. There are countless examples.
Exactly, potential threats may hold a significance in the role of Isis and other terrorist organizations. Yet so little of the people that actually do the damage can only do so much, and with the help of potential terrorists, as LittleMisfit said, America would be in a toast.
I wasn't claiming that they aren't a threat. I'm was simply pointing out that Dyphs claim that "the majority of every Muslim joining terrorist groups" is false.
Have you cared to read my response to your little dispute against my over-exaggeration? Can you not think outside the box, as previously phrased, for yourself and for the understanding of others? So while you're here copying and pasting facts from sites just to debunk me, you're going to ignore the fact that when I said "the majority of every Muslim," IT WAS OF COURSE AN EXAGGERATION!!!
True, it does so. But did it not violate the Japanese's rights when they were forcibly locked up under uncomfortable conditions? They were locked up because they were JAPANESE. And the Japanese, like the Muslims, were sending off intel to their country. How do you think Muslims can be ensured to not betray our country?
Yes, yes they were. But why was this able to happen? Because of due process. Trump here is attempting to do this, with, of course, legislative authority. So with this authority, you DID say that there must be due process to do this...
And yet the Japanese that were locked up were done so by legislative authority. I am personally neutral in this argument since I cannot take sides. This debate in particular is making me question the country's system of control.