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Eat the rich mentality is retarded!

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Side Score: 22
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Side Score: 17

Even if all the Fortune 500 profits were taken, along with all the accumulated wealth of the richest 400 people in America, it would not cover the budget deficit, and this is only one year. Stop

Side: yes
2 points

That's because no entity could waste as much money as the government.

Even the richest people don't have enough of that money to waste... yet people fear corporations more than government.

Side: yes

The video makes a lot of sense.---------------------------------

Side: yes
1 point

And that's assuming you can find a buyer for ALL the assets at current value. There's no guarantee.

Side: YES

It would require 100% taxation of the top 1% of Americans, and 100% taxation of all corporations to cover our deficit.

We could do that for one year, but then we would have bankruptcies and businesses failing left and right.

The only way to stop building debt is to stop spending.

Side: yes
1 point

This quote is from the TV show Friends. A little background, Joey Tribbiani is an actor who almost never works consequently he has little money. Chandler Bing is a data processor who makes a good deal of money. They are roommates Joey: "I constantly find myself without 20's (twenty dollar bills) and yet you always have lots." Sums up the socialist liberal mentality fairly well in my eyes. Hope that made sense to you all. Another good quote from Joey, " That was just a theory." "There were a lot of theories that didn't pan out the lone gunman, communism, geometry."

Side: yes
1 point

Once the government runs out of taxpayer money to foolishly spend, the first place they look is to the wealthy Americans' pockets as if they don't deserve their money as much as those in poverty simply because they have more.

Here's a good idea: STOP WASTING TAXPAYER MONEY! Maybe then we can stay out of this horrible debt and actually make progress as a country.

Side: yes

Yes! If you resort to cannibalism how rich they were will not influence the richness of the taste!

Side: yes

This is the Eugene Oregon occupiers demands (just saw this in the paper)

"Ending corporate personhood, holding Wall street responsible, public financing, ending climate crisis and helping the environment in general, stop all wars including war on drugs and the prison industrial complex, health care for all,affordable or free education including college, stop companies that are trying to gain a monopoly on the food supply and state banks like north Dakota."

LOL

Yeah I think their retarded.

Side: yes
casper3912(1581) Disputed
4 points

Thats not "eat the rich mentality", besides, what in that list is retarded?

A lot of it has a very solid basis in reality and the material needs of people.

Side: Maybe
1 point

It is a well known fact that the occupy people want to take the money from the rich (people, corporations whatever) and redistribute (eat the rich) it and this is how they want it redistributed:

"Ending corporate personhood, holding Wall street responsible, public financing, ending climate crisis and helping the environment in general, stop all wars including war on drugs and the prison industrial complex, health care for all,affordable or free education including college, stop companies that are trying to gain a monopoly on the food supply and state banks like north Dakota."

Trying to convince a self pronounced communist why the occupy movement is wrong and stupid will be extremely difficult if not impossible but here goes.

Corporate person hood: What is so wrong with corporate person hood. Do you or anyone of these protesters really know what a corporation is. They where created to help and protect people especially the people that work in one, ALL the people.

corporations should have the protection of the U.S. Constitution, pointing out that they are organizations of people, and that these people should not be deprived of their human rights when they act collectively.[4] In this view, treating corporations as "persons" is a convenient legal fiction that allows corporations to sue and to be sued, that provides a single entity for easier taxation and regulation, that simplifies complex transactions that would otherwise involve, in the case of large corporations, thousands of people, and that protects the rights of the shareholders as well as the right of association.

The notion of corporate person hood, then, has roots in the early history of the republic. Still, as the 19th century matured, manufacturing in the U.S. became more complex as the Industrial Revolution generated new inventions and business processes. The favored form for large businesses became the corporation because the corporation provided a mechanism to raise the large amounts of investment capital large business required, especially for capital intensive yet risky projects such as railroads.

This is all from wikipedia.

What the protesters really mean is they want to make it so some people can"t make a lot more money then them but they want to sound more intellectual than that.

Holding wall street responsible: "Wall street" is responsible for making more poor people rich than rich people richer. The basis of this demand comes from people who don't know how wall street works and are to lazy to learn. Who exactly is going to be responsible? All the people who work at the physical street that is called wall street or all the companies and corporations and investment firms and investors (ie: average Joes, teachers, employees etc.). A better demand would be to make schools teach the fundamentals of Investing in the stock market. Knowledge is the best weapon not regulation.

Public furnacing: I dint know what they are talking about here do you?

Ending climate crisis and helping the environment in general: Arnt we the world leaders in helping the environment. Doesn't every household theses days recycle? Are we not the world leader in creating lower emission higher energy saving cars and electricity? What do they want us to do? Stop driving all together? I cant do that I have a two year old and one on they way, am I supposed to walk in the rain and snow miles to go dinner shopping everyday? If there is an emergency I have to pay thousands of dollars to call an ambulance instead of driving to the hospital my self (five blocks away). Why don't they (the don't drive because your killing the planet people) start with not driving themselves.

Stop all wars including war on drugs and the prison industrial complex: This one I don't completely disagree with but I think its much more complicated then just stopping all war. the so called "prison industrial complex problem" could be greatly improved If we actually punished serious and repeat criminals instead of just saying we are and then letting them go in two months because we don't have enough "room".

Health care for all ,affordable or free education including college: Just saying all health care and education is free is impossible. Health care and education, wherever in the world you are, costs money at some point. To say it doesn't or doesn't have to is ignorant and delusional. If you look at every other country that claims to have free helthcare (Canada, Europe etc.) you will see that thay are falling apart because the government doesn't have enough money to sustain it. People are being sent away with a bandage at most. Free health care is a pipe dream there are other ways.

Ok Ive written a book here I'm done for now but I recommend everyone watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQpXybTnGVg&feature;=related

If for nothing els but a good laugh.

Side: yes
3 points

They're full of fat and/or nutritional supplements, so they'd probably cook pretty well, especially with butter.

If the apocalypse comes, they get eaten first once we need to resort to cannibalism.

Side: Maybe
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
2 points

Sorry if I am being too literal but when the apocalypse comes they will be able to build security systems to keep them safe from the hungry cannibals.

Side: yes
Liber(1730) Disputed
1 point

If the apocalypse comes, they get eaten first once we need to resort to cannibalism.

If the apocalypse comes, I won't discriminate with regards to what class the person I am eating belongs.

Side: yes
0 points

I think the people on welfare/food stamps (who are overwhelmingly obese) would make a far more satisfying spread.

Side: yes
chatturgha(1631) Disputed
1 point

I think the people on welfare/food stamps (who are overwhelmingly obese) would make a far more satisfying spread.

Obese people would be tasty, but you're incorrect to say a person on welfare would be obese. The fact that a person is on welfare or is obese means that they can't afford to buy enough food to get fat in the first place.

But I have seen people get fat and THEN get welfare. But people on welfare don't get fat because of welfare.

Side: Maybe
AppearsInvis(3) Disputed
1 point

The reason that they are obese is because fast food, which is the unhealthiest option for anyone to eat, is also the cheapest. These people literally can't afford healthy food so they have to have fatty, unhealthy food which then makes them obese. It's a sad but true fact...

Also, why the heck is there no "no" option...?

Side: No
2 points

Not as retarded as the far more prevalent "eat the poor mentality" >_<

Over the last decade, starting with the Bush tax cuts which were supposed to magically "create jobs", and decades before that has seen a steady and exponential increase in the amount of money and power the very richest of the rich wield, while at the very same time the other 99% of humanity makes less money, has less say in their government, has less of a safety net, and needs to work even harder for all of this.

Closing corporate loopholes and returning to the tax rates of the 90's is hardly "eating the rich"

They'll continue getting richer on the backs of the middle class and poor, just at a slower rate.

The most amazing thing is how many good little sheep actually buy into this storyline that the poor rich guy is being picked on.

Way to stay in line for your corporate overlords wee little sheep, maybe your boss will give you a bonus big enough to drive your fam to Disneyland for a day next year, while he's taking his corporate jet to the sweat shop in India to make sure his other slaves are staying on task.

Fucking morons.

Side: eat the poor mentality more so