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Excon says the police are racists, then tells us the police are Socialism

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Hello B:

So, socialists can't be racists??? DUDE!! Ain't nothing I can say about that, except another DUDE!!!!

excon

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excon(8565) Clarified
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Hello again, B:

It's also worth noting, that most cops don't KNOW or CARE that the police force is organized socialism..

I'm wondering.. Are you saying that if the cops don't KNOW the entity they work for is socialism, then it's NOT socialism?? That if they don't EMBRACE socialism, then it's NOT socialism?

Dude!

excon

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marcusmoon(531) Clarified
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Excon,

I disagree that a police force is a socialist construct. That would be like saying that government is a socialist construct.

Fascists had police, as do monarchies, capitalist republics, etc., ad nauseum. Notably, the most communal societies (the Mbuti, the !Kung) do not have police forces.

This is because enforcement of law and authority are intrinsic to ANY form of government or governmentally sanctioned economic system.

I think it is fallacious to conflate basic roles of government with any particular political, governmental, or economic model. The continuance of the relationship between any government and the citizens requires that the government engage (or appear to engage) in the following enterprises:

-Law, law enforcement, courts, etc.

-Military, border definition & enforcement.

-Infrastructure.

-Taxation to pay for these.

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CrapWeasel(448) Disputed
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It's also worth noting, that most cops don't KNOW or CARE that the police force is organized socialism..

Probably because they aren't socialist. The government does not own the means of production that fund the police.

You can continue to say the police are socialist. That won't make it so.

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outlaw60(12951) Disputed
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LMMFAO you are a DUMMY !!!!!!!! You have any facts to prove your false claim SUPER STUPID ?

It's also worth noting, that most cops don't KNOW or CARE that the police force is organized socialism..

Back it up DUMMY or be proven the FOOL you are !!!!!!!

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Amarel(3880) Clarified
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Which government functions are not socialist in your opinion?

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Hootie(535) Disputed
3 points

Which government functions are not socialist in your opinion?

The ones where they protect your private property, you massive retard. If the government were socialist then I doubt considerably that the private sector would fund the campaign system.

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Tingle(-1) Disputed
2 points

Which government functions are not socialist in your opinion?

Governments are not socialist.

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Hello, Excon.

So, socialists can't be racists???

That was my first thought, too.

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CrapWeasel(448) Disputed
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So, socialists can't be racists??? DUDE!! Ain't nothing I can say about that, except another DUDE!!!!

Pretty much all Socialists do is focus on your race rather than who you are.

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It's REALLY funny, but dark, how conservatives take a statement about a small number of problem cops, and change the meaning to mean EVERY cop. MOST cops are, to use some famous words, "very fine people". That's the same way they take the word "socialism" and make it sound like EVERYTHING is bad about it. The liberals in America only want the GOOD parts of it, just like we only want the GOOD cops! When the bad is taken out of ANYTHING, the good is what remains.

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marcusmoon(531) Clarified
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Hi, Al.

The liberals in America only want the GOOD parts of it, just like we only want the GOOD cops!

Well put.

Capitalist societies have cops, roads, and property confiscation (taxes) and yet nobody characterizes these things in a socialist society as "capitalist".

There are some things that ALL governments do that interface with economic sphere and private property. The thing that defines socialism, per se, is scope and degree. The same thing goes for fascism.

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outlaw60(12951) Disputed
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It's REALLY funny, but dark, how conservatives take a statement about a small number of problem cops, and change the meaning to mean EVERY cop. MOST cops are, to use some famous words, "very fine people". That's the same way they take the word "socialism" and make it sound like EVERYTHING is bad about it. The liberals in America only want the GOOD parts of it, just like we only want the GOOD cops! When the bad is taken out of ANYTHING, the good is what remains.

More PSYCHO BABBLE from the CONFUSED SOCIALIST GRANDPAW !

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outlaw60(12951) Disputed
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Grandpaw which part of American Socialism excite you the most ?????????????

Do your children and grandchildren follow your socialist view Grandpaw ???????

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Those on the Left refuse to look at what actually causes all the broken families, all the crime, all the drug use, the racism, etc. etc.

They simply make ludicrous statements of how it takes a village to raise a child. They think that case workers can pick up the pieces of broken lives.

The Left hates words such as morals, accountability, responsibility, etc.

They have thrown up their arms to any thought of fixing the core problems in society, and simply expect tax payers to fund never ending social programs to band-aide the growing problems.

That case worker is not going to keep an abandoned teen from joining that gang. He is searching for some semblance of a family.

A cold Socialist Government can never heal a broken heart. It takes a mother and father to raise a well adjusted child.

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AlofRI(1979) Disputed
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That's a very true statement, for the most part. The hypocritical things about it are: At the border, Trump causes broken families; The facts that so many "villages" south of the border are filled with "broken lives" and conservatives don't give a DAMN, and "they simply expect tax payers to fund" …. the WALL that prevents their escape WITH these children with broken lives; Case workers can't keep these "abandoned teens" from joining gangs, THEY didn't instill the hatred in them, THEY didn't take away the only "semblance of a family" they had left; "It takes a mother and father to raise a well adjusted child" …. kinda like that "well adjusted child" in the White House who was taught how advantageous it can be to cheat on your taxes from he age of 2?? A "cold socialist government" had nothing to do with THAT. After all, THESE children are already BORN, AND they're from another country (and a slightly different color … let's not forget! How come THIS "cold government" and its supporters only care about white American kids that have "mothers and fathers" wealthy enough "to raise a well adjusted child" (and even wealthy enough to corrupt and readjust a child), but don't care "to heal" those not that fortunate? To be a Christian you can't "pick and choose" the children you want to help, you have to help "the children". There are MANY good Christians. I won't be one because several reasons, ONE being this type of hypocrisy that is getting WORSE. I respect Jesus, as alleged, more so than many Christians. One can't pick the color and nationality (or religion) of a child and hold them above others.

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CrapWeasel(448) Disputed
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There are MANY good Christians. I won't be one because several reasons, ONE being this type of hypocrisy that is getting WORSE.

Of course. Because nonchristian leftists aren't the biggest group of hypocrites to have ever walked the Earth.

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QuapoDog(106) Disputed
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At the border, Trump causes broken families

Democrats created the laws for how things work at the border. The seperations happened under Obama, and libs even wrote articles about it pre Trump.

Obama officials rushed to explain photos from 2014 that went viral showing locked-up immigrant children — and Trump's facilities look the same

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5

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FromWithin(6611) Disputed
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How can a person be so blind to turn upside down every issue in our nation? Do you spend every waking minute of your life watching Liberal biased fake news?

You refuse to answer the simple questions that show your brainwashing.

Let me try one more time....

What do we do with the children of parents who commit crimes such as breaking and entering, stealing, etc. etc.

WE SEPARATE THEM UNTIL THE CRIMINAL GETS OUT OF JAIL!

That's what loving compassionate people do when a child is being raised by criminals!

It's against the law to break into our nation. These people are putting their children in severe danger and risk. They have no problem taking a chance of being separated from their children.

They are bad parents!

But when it comes to the politics of demonizing Conservatives, you hypocrites spew absolute nonsense. Talk about low end voters.

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outlaw60(12951) Disputed
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That's a very true statement, for the most part. The hypocritical things about it are: At the border, Trump causes broken families; The facts that so many "villages" south of the border are filled with "broken lives" and conservatives don't give a DAMN, and "they simply expect tax payers to fund" …. the WALL that prevents their escape WITH these children with broken lives; Case workers can't keep these "abandoned teens" from joining gangs, THEY didn't instill the hatred in them, THEY didn't take away the only "semblance of a family" they had left; "It takes a mother and father to raise a well adjusted child" …. kinda like that "well adjusted child" in the White House who was taught how advantageous it can be to cheat on your taxes from he age of 2?? A "cold socialist government" had nothing to do with THAT. After all, THESE children are already BORN, AND they're from another country (and a slightly different color … let's not forget! How come THIS "cold government" and its supporters only care about white American kids that have "mothers and fathers" wealthy enough "to raise a well adjusted child" (and even wealthy enough to corrupt and readjust a child), but don't care "to heal" those not that fortunate? To be a Christian you can't "pick and choose" the children you want to help, you have to help "the children". There are MANY good Christians. I won't be one because several reasons, ONE being this type of hypocrisy that is getting WORSE. I respect Jesus, as alleged, more so than many Christians. One can't pick the color and nationality (or religion) of a child and hold them above others.

Grandpaw really goes into PSYCHO BABBLE here ROTFFLMMFAO

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