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The last five or ten mins of this video (start at 34:30) tells the story of some Christian abortion protesters who were on the verge of giving up at an abortion clinic, when an atheist's counter protest led to answered prayer that saved a baby's life.
People will take the pro life stance to the world in many ways.
There are good Americans around the nation who will protest in their own ways. We all have different personalities and will speak the truth to the inhumanity of abortion in ways that fit our demeanor.
There is not just one way of doing so. I have respect for all forms of peaceful protest as long as they do not kill people or blow up clinics.
People will take the pro life stance to the world in many ways.
Yes they do do--like bombing abortion clinics and killing innocents.
And I personally view the Anti Choice stance (I refuse to say pro life) as that of elitist, arrogant, narrow-minded reactionary bigots who actually feel that by some miracle they have the fucking right to command a woman on what to do with her own body and her life-altering choices.
There are good Americans around the nation who will protest in their own ways. We all have different personalities and will speak the truth...
Good Americans like me (a combat vet who fought for our Rights) and millions others who know that Pro Choice is a constitutional right. And so we DO speak the truth whenever we talk about Pro Choice. We do NOT bomb abortion clinics and try to tell women how to live their lives. We do NOT demand that un-wanted babies are bought into the world so they can suffer. Only idiots do this.
I have respect for all forms of peaceful protest as long as they do not kill people or blow up clinics.
No you don't you fucking hypocritical liar. You pre-ban me and other Pro Choicers from your silly debates. You accuse us of being evil and being murderers. Just admit it: You would jizz your pants if tomorrow you read in the papers that several Pro Choicers were killed in a confrontation with Anti Choicers. You would say something typically idiotic like "they deserved it for all the babies they killed."
Worse...you don't even have the cojones to admit this when I confront you with it. Therefore, I would be lying if I told you I respect you. I do not.
You are one sick bigoted narcissistic fool. Like i said, you do not write a post without tooting your own horn.
Usually it's all about your college degrees. Now it's about your combat.
Too bad College did not teach you some humility and some humanity, or the simple decency not to smear feces on Christian literature. You have made to my auto ban list and there you will stay.
If other people are stupid enough not to ban you, that's their problem.
Let me give you some advice since you are too dense to get it. A truely intelligent person has no need to brag about his intelligence. Others will see it if it is there to see.
You on the other hand must tell the world how smart you are, and by doing so prove the exact opposite.
See my reply to Fromwithin's Goodbye post and you will see the real story about the poop smearing story.
As far as my communication style being that of an adolescent, would you care to elaborate?
And I really hope you're not questioning my veteran status. I will be happy to answer any questions on my TOD and MOS or whatever else you would like to know about the military.
Last: you said you have no job or friends or much of a life. Perhaps the Military might not be a bad option for you. Are you qualified? You claim to be something of a fighter and a prime psychical specimen. So maybe you should put that to some good use. And you can get free college from a military service.
Or are those alleged muscles you have just "Internet muscles?"
LOL
Again...let me know if you have any questions. My Army enlistment of four years pretty much paid for my post-grad schooling. I didn't need the GI Bill for undergrad school, though, since I had a hockey ride.
I'm going to ban you if you don't keep the language clean. I give you slack because you have earned my respect unlike most of the idiots here, but to be fair to the idiots I have to hold you pretty close to the same standard.
You're the only atheist/evolutionist who has shown enough guts and character to go toe to toe with me, and I don't want that to change...of course unless you actually see how your sin separates you from God and He made the way for you to be reconciled to Him by paying your price, suffering our penalty, by giving His life's blood to cover you if you will believe on Him and receive Him as your Savior. Then you will stand shoulder to shoulder with me and know what it's like to be a soldier for the Lord and take whatever flak the enemy can muster.
Point taken, Mr. Saint. I will respect your distaste for foul language.
Sorry. Old habits die hard. 12 years of organized hockey still sometimes outweigh my academic experience, where bad language is fairly uncommon.
And I have no doubt that,if there WAS a personal and caring god as you claim, that my lifetime of sinning and mocking him wold indeed separate us. Strangely, I sometimes revel in this idea, as it justifies my belief that, again, IF he existed, the burden of proof of that is placed squarely on his shoulders if he wants me to "come around."
He's done all He can do to show Himself to you. You have to choose to believe. Unlike the god of Islam, not even God Himself will force you to acknowledge Him. Jesus said, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock: (that's the hidden door of your heart which you open or close to whatever you want) if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him and sup with him, and he with me". God is trying to draw you to open that door by being good to you. He will not force you to open the door. When life has hard trials like loss of a loved one, even in that God is being good to you trying to draw you to Himself to trust Him and be filled with hope of heaven. God has met His burden of proof, by taking on human form to die for you, He died for you, plunged into your dying to pull you out of it in His resurrection but you have to hear Him calling, hear Him knocking, believe, open that door and receive Him ...
Jesus told of the rich man who went to Hell, and asked that the beggar, Lazarus who was in paradise, be sent to warn his brothers. The rich man was told that if his brothers would not believe the Bible, they would not believe even though one had risen from the dead.
If you say the burden of proof is on God to prove that your sin has separated you from Him, you are asking to be left in the fire of Hell forever separated from God by your sin. God does not want to give you that proof or you would have it already. He's being patient with you, giving you time, trying to draw you into agreement with Him regarding His right to rule over and against you, and His justification for leaving you in condemnation if you will not accept his Son as the propitiation for your sins so you can be pardoned of your sins, justified by the life of Him who conquered death so you can be forgiven as He paid your price and wants to own you at the price of His life's blood, and if you will receive Him all of Heaven's inheritance will be freely given to you.
God knows if you would repent of your sin and believe on His Son (meaning He would be your life instead of your life being your own for whatever you feel like doing with it) were He to zap you with lightning or rain down buckets of money on your head.....or if He raised the dead. If you won't repent of your sin, even if God did things like that right in front of your face you would remain unchanged, probably say aliens caused the events or something like that. If you won't open the door to Jesus, He's not going to knock it down. If He knocked it down, you would probably try to kill Him.....or just run away to find another place where you can feel safer hiding from Him.
You've put up a brick wall, maybe sealed the door forever but Jesus now is standing at the door knocking. He's good, you can't have better company. Don't shut Him out forever, friend. Open the door and let Him in while you have time. I really hope you have enough time.
God loves you, and that's a good thing. If you won't believe it, you'll miss out. If you will believe it, you will know it's worth it to turn against and away from your sin to the living God who gives eternal life through Jesus Christ the Lord; to know Him and the power of His resurrection. If you will really believe, you will really know and don't say that's circular reasoning, it's based on historical facts on a linear timescale applicable in every current situation of life.
Jesus conquered death. The dying process will conquer you if the Savior does not pull you out of if. If you won't believe, God can't save you and you can't save yourself. He did all He could to save you. He's offering you a gift of eternal life if you will receive the gift of God which is through Jesus Christ, God in Person. Agree to His terms and you will be in communion with Him, on speaking terms, conversational with the Heavenly Father. No priest or pennance necessary, its' heart to heart between you and God with the wireless line of prayer.
I think in all of history of abortion there was like 8 people out of the billions of Christians that were radical to assault in violence abortion clinics or doctors.
So to disrespect billions of people for the actions of 8 individuals acting in their own crazy minds is FAR from reasonable in any platform!
Disrespecting billions of Christians for the actions of a cult like West Borough Baptist, who is about 40 people, almost all 1 individual family of parents children and grandchildren, again is unreasonable.
Judge God according to Himself, and judge God's people according to their fruit. Not according to wacky straw man arguments that let you feel comfortable in deception!
make your own discussion and try to keep it focused on the gospel instead of junk begging for reproof like your silly indefinite definition of the word "day".
Fartman, the video never mentions violence, never condones violence, that's not what it's about. I only asked people to watch the last ten minutes and see if you are heartless enough that you don't shed a tear. Then you show how stone hearted cold you are by just hating them, hating that baby, calling them all liars. What is wrong with you? Whatever your problem is, you've rejected God's cure and solution and what you have in this world, no matter how bad you think it might be, it's still better than you deserve so enjoy it as much as you can. I've had enough of you. God loves you and my job is only to tell you the truth. If you're not saved from Hell, you're on your way to that fire pit and you can't say nobody told you, you can't say God did not try to reach you. You are rejecting Him, spitting in the face of His Son who will be your Judge if not your Savior. I really feel sorry for you, but I've had enough of your garbage and you are fortunate, for now as long as you are in this world, that God is more patient with you than I am patient with you. Sorry Cartman, there's apparently nothing I can do for you so it's time for me to move on. Yes I've said it before, hoped I was wrong, but I guess I'm not.
watch the last ten minutes of this, it's awesome.....anybody who does not shed a tear watching this has to be a hard hearted devil. It powerfully illustrates the truth against abortion.
Hi from Within, here is a message from Mr Donald to Rosie O'Donnelled (a cunt). I personally think he was justified in getting mad, however, he did the following publicly.
I want you to think back to WWII, and how it started over a disagreement over telegraph poles. That was the toppling point.
Wars are VERY VERY easy to start.
Despite what people say about him, he is clearly not a sociopath. He is super honest. However, the reality is that peace cannot be obtained when the world makes you into a bad guy.
Hillary has been proven to allow hostile governments to see our classoified email, and has done corrupt business with our enemies to get funding for the clinton foundtion.
We once again need a strong president like Reagan who told russia to tear down tht wall!
THEY DID!
You are too young to understand our history. Weakness creates war. Strength prevents war!
Hillary has been proven to allow hostile governments to see our classoified email, and has done corrupt business with our enemies to get funding for the clinton foundtion.
Wrong. That email was never glanced at by hostile government, as the servers were shown to never be breached. Ergo, it was all a harmless mistake on her part. She has learned her lesson, and she will in the future be more cautious. BTW: those "classified" docs were cleared by over 200 Intel and Security colleagues before they got to her. And on a server they used all the time for NON-classified material. This is why she was taken by surprise with their Classified status. They were also not clearly marked as Classified, as per the usual manner.
Rather...there was on a small "c" in the corner, which was not the typical manner of marking them.
We once again need a strong president like Reagan who told russia to tear down tht wall!
Reagan was overrated. He was a good public speaker, but insiders and colleagues who knew and worked with him mostly agree he was lazy. Not interested in the smaller details of the job, and had little patience for developing and analyzing policy. Mostly, he just wanted to be in the limelight and talk. Like the actor he was all his life.
He also had little to do with the falling of the Berlin Wall and the demise of the USSR. Listen: the USSR went bankrupt from the 10-year long Afghan War (which was basically their Vietnam) and also from trying to keep up with us in Defense Spending. Anybody can engage in saber rattling and jingoism like Reagan was so good at.
Hey idiot, apparently you want to be here because you took time to type, but unlike Slapshot you have never shown enough manners that I might tolerate a little profanity from you. I especially take offense when a low life like you refers to women's issues as profanities. I hope you talk like that in front of somebody like myself who very well might make you eat some of your teeth for talking that way.
If you want to participate in my discussions, you are on a zero tolerance policy regarding profanity. If you want to participate and you keep on cussing and getting yourself banned, that is solid evidence that you are not only an ignoramus as your name makes clear, but you are an idiot as well.
make your own discussion and try to keep it focused on the gospel instead of junk begging for reproof like your silly indefinite definition of the word "day".
go find some of your own business to mind. You don't want to repent of your sin and believe on Jesus to be saved from Hell, then don't. I'm done wasting time with your nasty face.
Oh wahhhhhh! Cry me a river. Youre the biggest bully here and I will continue to pay you back what you give. You go the church on Sunday and sing All Things Bright and Beautiful and think you have accepted Jesus hahahahha. You're the most unchristian person I have ever encountered.
You've annoyed me to no end so I'm calling it the end and walking away. I'm sorry you see no good reason to repent of your sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved from Hell.
since you don't have ten minutes to listen to the last ten minutes of this video to get the main point, how do you find the time for the rambling typing you do or is it all copy and pasted from somewhere? I type around fifty wpm, if you type 100 you're still putting a lot of time into in unless you are copy and pasting your meanderings.
Saintnow, listen to Him. Seriously, what is the link. I want to see more of his stuff. This is the church that God will build in these last days. And from what I heard so far, this pastor is one of them.
My sheep hear My voice... you know when you hear it, through people, through His Word, it rings like a bell, and blows like a TRUMPET!
Saintnow you are always trying to figure out what "religious sect" I am, this guy is on target 100%!
Well, this teacher is an example of one in the body of Christ.
This has been my understanding of God from the start. Even when I fell asleep.
So this is where Christians are headed in understanding, and God will call us to this. Not the hell fire guys. Its simply the Word, and follow the Word like it is the only Light, and every thing else every doctrine every tie to the world ... Doctrines are idols, churches are divisions. He want s us armed with the Word His Spirit and Oneness in the Spirit
Jesus was what you would call a Hell fire guy. Maybe you haven't read the gospels, or maybe your fake Bible is one of those which removes the word Hell in many places while it removes thousands of other words, removes the blood, removes propitiation.
Jesus strongly told people they were children of Hell when those people opposed Him, He told them directly and bluntly that they are of their father the devil....and Jesus always meant Hell which burns with fire and brimstone when He talked about it.
He said that if we follow Him we should not be surprised that the world hates us the same as they hated Him. You re trying to be friendly with the world by being hush hush about Hell and compromising to say the Word of God is subject to preference of interpretation rather than an objective which cannot be changed. You need to burn those phony Bibles and speak of Hell the same as Jesus did or you are not following Jesus, you are following your own feelings trying to be friendly with the world which is enmity with God.
I'm focusing on the power of God they can likely see all around them. Your talking about a place they can't picture exists.
Jesus focused on the power of God and Hell is Eternal Fire and we don't exactly know what that means yet. We have light that was passed down from someone else's Revelations. It's not being responsible to just assume they had all the revelation.
But the focus needs to be on Salvation, and the realities of God and prophesies in all of our lives! We are supposed to testify of Him. But you have to be willing to look at Him! Your not looking up. On the rooftop don't go down to get your things!
They can, and they do, very easily picture Hell. It's very easy to picture, that's why they hate it when they are told they are on their way into the fire. They know exactly what it is, and there is something in every one of us if we deny it or not that rings true when it's said that Hell is justice for sinners.
You need to let the Bible do the talking and do less talking yourself. I suggest you read the gospels a few times and take note of the actions, words, and character of Jesus. You seem to have missed a lot.
Everyone can picture it, but since it's not an experience its doesn't mean the same thing as something they can grasp.
Think about it, when He talked to Nicodemus, a pharasee, He didn't call him through the threat of hell fire. He offered a chance to be born again! And the Messiah appealed to His heart. On the other hand He asked who told that bucket of snakes to avoid he'll fire.
So the people your calling to, will come if they are His and their heart is called. They 'll respond to that because He would be familiar to them. Many of us can remember a time when we were 4 or 5 or in 1st grade or 2nd grade when we felt something for a moment even that our conscience knew Him for a moment.
He knows who are His, we testify and call them and wake them up. They don't know either, our job is to say something that will get them to look at Him. We need to show them Him!
The other pharasees He gave those 8 Woes to, "You brood of vipers"
Jesus wasn't trying to win or inflence them, He was using them as an example and judging them right before our eyes!
They couldn't see Jesus, in all He was, standing right in front of their faces. That's how blind they were in judgement.
Can you imagine, these people are the religious leaders of the day, we have religious leaders, and they had memorized every text, our went to Bible Schools, yet only 1 pharasee named Nicodemus realized Messiah had come! We have some living for Jesus, And we have some compromising to please people, at the cost of angering God!! That's judgement!
He was warning us look here, at this example, And be on your guard, don't be like this, or you will be judged, too!
Where Nicodemus was learning about being born again. Well we have to realize to follow Jesus.
Maybe I won't ban you and I'll just keep pointing out how you are too cowardly to address the points made in the video exposing the frauds of the NASV passing itself off as a Bible.
You are clueless, I don't get it. But God know your heart.
Its like you hate people that are Christians.
I dont understand the darkness in you, it sounds like the light went on early on, and you took a direction of beating on people to condemnation, rather than using Gods Word.
You have to get rid of your idols!
You want God and people in a neat little box.
Im actually sad for you, its probably the Spirit in me weepiing for you!
Whatever. You are in line with Hugh Ross and you believe their is no English Bible but rather multiple versions which all contain errors so you really can't be sure what God said. Whatever sect you align yourself with, it's not a Bible based sect. What is it, Emergent Church? Acts 29 Network? That would fit right in with your conversion testimony of hearing the Lord's voice apart from His word, and it would explain why so much of your doctrine determines the Word instead of the Word determining doctrine.
Actually everything I heard, saw, and shared with you, I gave you scriptures for.
Whereas you gave me your words and words of man.
And the 1 thing you posted I finally agreed with, that basically sees everything clearly, you then back peddled from and tried to put it into some religion box.
presenting your ideas and then twisting scripture to fit your ideas is not giving me scripture, it's trying to sell me your ideas and I"m not buying them, sorry.
make your own discussion and try to keep it focused on the gospel instead of junk begging for reproof like your silly indefinite definition of the word "day".
Maybe I won't ban you and I'll just keep pointing out how you are too cowardly to address the points made in the video exposing the frauds of the NASV passing itself off as a Bible.
This never happened. Your preacher is lying. Isn't it said that you guys have faith in lies? Tell him to record the next atheist he convinces outside of an abortion clinic. He had saved 30 babies. Tell him to record saving baby 31 so you can see him in action. He likes being recorded, it shouldn't be a problem.
prove it, idiot. What a jerk you are, sitting there in your fatness insulting everybody you disagree with, hiding behind that fat little icon acting like you are some kind of stupid machine. I know you have issues, serious ones, probably in a wheel chair stinking fat unable to bathe much, bitter at God and the world so you do all you can to destroy yourself by trying to destroy God.
Don't feel insulted by the truth. If I'm wrong about your personal issues, please tell me how. What is your problem that you hide back there, never being yourself, never showing who you are, just running your mouth mindlessly
I admit to not watching the video, since I have always found the whole pro-choice/anti-choice thing pretty damn boring.
But.........Your attack on GoCart made me laugh, Saint.
I never pictured him as being old and fat. I always thought of him as a young--probably around 20; probably skinny, long-haired SoCal skater boi type. A sort of hi-IQ slacker; gamer; iconoclast; and of course, avid SouthPark fan.
Saint: you DO know that's where his icon comes from, right? The for-adults cartoon called SouthPark? That was on for about ten years and was some of the funniest shite ever, just like Boondockers and Archer and Family Guy? And before all that, Ren and Stimpy? (which I admit used to kinda disturb Slappy a little.)
I'm fed up with Fartman. You come across as a real person as I myself try to do. Fartman is hiding something, never talks about his personal life, interests, goal, accomplishments, nothing. Just buzzes around like a horsefly trying to suck the sweat off people who put some backbone into what they are doing here. Only one time I was able to get him to actually carry on a conversation when I debated him on "how to make an atheist's head explode" until I forced him by philosophical logic to see how silly his beliefs were and he lost all composure and couldn't say two words without cussing profusely.
You should watch the last ten minutes, I think I said earlier it was from minute marker 34:30 on, for two reasons
1) You should watch the last ten minutes of the video, you always ask for testimony of specific answers to prayer.
2) I'm challenging you to watch it because I want to see if you can watch it without shedding a tear. If you can watch it without shedding a tear, I know you are stone cold hearted and I still think you are better than that....but maybe I"m wrong, maybe you are stone cold hearted
An atheist came out and argued with the abortion protesters, and ended up saying to the head guy, I disagree with you, but I like you. But one of the sign carriers was getting tired and discouraged, largely thanks to the atheist's arguing, feeling like they were wasting their time. His sign said "please don't hurt your baby". He walked toward the door of the abortion clinic door. A man was inside waiting for his wife to get her abortion finished. She was in pre-op, and he prayed, "God, if you want me to stop this abortion, you have to give me a sign". Then he looked out the window of the front door and saw the sign, "Please don't hurt your baby". Then he asked God for another sign, said the guy would have to have a certain kind of car.....I forget the exact detail on that. He went outside and asked the sign carrier about his car, it was the right kind of car, the man ran in and got his wife out of their and she had the baby. She appears at the end of the video with her baby, almost unable to speak just saying "thank you, thank you, thank you" over and over. "Thank you for saving my baby, thank you for giving me my baby".
Anybody who can watch it without shedding a tear has to be one cold heart. I know people who think babies should be killed might look on it with disdain. I'm glad you were not aborted.
South Park was one of the nastiest shows I ever glanced at, and I never gave it more than a glance. I no longer allow tv in my house. They called it a boob tube when it first became popular for good reason......mind numbing.
TV shows really went into the gutter after the seventies, and they're getting worse like the Bible says...evildoers will wax worse and worse.
I was known as the King of Insults in school, placed in high school mock elections for best sense of humor. I once picked apart my psychology teachers philosophy with a few questions before I made my statement clearly showing the fallacy of her teaching.........the whole class together said ..........OOOOOooooOOOOOOooooo. The teacher knew I was right, all she could do was to put her hands on her hips and say "this is my class, I'm the teacher". After class some of the girls chased me down in the hallway and thanked me for standing up for the truth...I forget what the thing was about, just plain simple common sense logic that comes out of a Biblical world and life view.
It's the same logic that says you as a child in your mothers womb are worth more than all the tiger cubs in the world. It's just reality. I'm glad they killed the cubs and kept you.
You banned me, from the other debate. I'm not surprised.
Not sure, maybe you didn't even read enough to get anything from the Spirit.
You don't understand Hell.
And I don't either, but I do understand judgement a little, and I understand the fire and brimstone He is pouring out. And I understand the cup of wrath He is giving out to drink.
I"m tempted to ban you here for your stupid comment comparing blindness to Hell. Blindness is not the same as Hell. You can be comfortable when blind, you can't be comfortable in the fire of Hell. You sure act like you think you know the Bible when you ignore so much of it.
Pay attention to the words Lightening, mark, heart melting etc
Jesus is saying alot of this in Luke and Matt - end times
◄ Ezekiel 21 ►
New American Standard Bible
Parable of the Sword of the LORD
1And the word of the LORD came to me saying, 2“Son of man, set your face toward Jerusalem, and speak against the sanctuaries and prophesy against the land of Israel; 3and say to the land of Israel, ‘Thus says the LORD, “Behold, I am against you; and I will draw My sword out of its sheath and cut off from you the righteous and the wicked. 4“Because I will cut off from you the righteous and the wicked, therefore My sword will go forth from its sheath against all flesh from south to north. 5“Thus all flesh will know that I, the LORD, have drawn My sword out of its sheath. It will not return to its sheath again.”’ 6“As for you, son of man, groan with breaking heart and bitter grief, groan in their sight. 7“And when they say to you, ‘Why do you groan?’ you shall say, ‘Because of the news that is coming; and every heart will melt, all hands will be feeble, every spirit will faint and all knees will be weak as water. Behold, it comes and it will happen,’ declares the Lord GOD.”
8Again the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
9“Son of man, prophesy and say, ‘Thus says the LORD.’ Say,
‘A sword, a sword sharpened
And also polished!
10‘Sharpened to make a slaughter,
Polished to flash like lightning!’
Or shall we rejoice, the rod of My son despising every tree?
11“It is given to be polished, that it may be handled; the sword is sharpened and polished, to give it into the hand of the slayer. 12“Cry out and wail, son of man; for it is against My people, it is against all the officials of Israel. They are delivered over to the sword with My people, therefore strike your thigh. 13“For there is a testing; and what if even the rod which despises will be no more?” declares the Lord GOD.
14“You therefore, son of man, prophesy and clap your hands together; and let the sword be doubled the third time, the sword for the slain. It is the sword for the great one slain, which surrounds them, 15that their hearts may melt, and many fall at all their gates. I have given the glittering sword. Ah! It is made for striking like lightning, it is wrapped up in readiness for slaughter. 16“Show yourself sharp, go to the right; set yourself; go to the left, wherever your edge is appointed. 17“I will also clap My hands together, and I will appease My wrath; I, the LORD, have spoken.”
The Instrument of God’s Judgment
18The word of the LORD came to me saying, 19“As for you, son of man, make two ways for the sword of the king of Babylon to come; both of them will go out of one land. And make a signpost; make it at the head of the way to the city. 20“You shall mark a way for the sword to come to Rabbah of the sons of Ammon, and to Judah into fortified Jerusalem. 21“For the king of Babylon stands at the parting of the way, at the head of the two ways, to use divination; he shakes the arrows, he consults the household idols, he looks at the liver. 22“Into his right hand came the divination, ‘Jerusalem,’ to set battering rams, to open the mouth for slaughter, to lift up the voice with a battle cry, to set battering rams against the gates, to cast up ramps, to build a siege wall. 23“And it will be to them like a false divination in their eyes; they have sworn solemn oaths. But he brings iniquity to remembrance, that they may be seized.
24“Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, ‘Because you have made your iniquity to be remembered, in that your transgressions are uncovered, so that in all your deeds your sins appear—because you have come to remembrance, you will be seized with the hand. 25‘And you, O slain, wicked one, the prince of Israel, whose day has come, in the time of the punishment of the end,’ 26thus says the Lord GOD, ‘Remove the turban and take off the crown; this will no longer be the same. Exalt that which is low and abase that which is high. 27‘A ruin, a ruin, a ruin, I will make it.* This also will be no more until He comes whose right it is, and I will give it to Him.’
28“And you, son of man, prophesy and say, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD concerning the sons of Ammon and concerning their reproach,’ and say: ‘A sword, a sword is drawn, polished for the slaughter, to cause it to consume, that it may be like lightning— 29while they see for you false visions, while they divine lies for you—to place you on the necks of the wicked who are slain, whose day has come, in the time of the punishment of the end. 30‘Return it to its sheath. In the place where you were created, in the land of your origin, I will judge you. 31‘I will pour out My indignation on you; I will blow on you with the fire of My wrath, and I will give you into the hand of brutal men, skilled in destruction. 32‘You will be fuel for the fire; your blood will be in the midst of the land. You will not be remembered, for I, the LORD, have spoken.’”
2 “I will sweep away everything from the face of the earth,” declares the LORD. 3 “I will sweep away both man and beast; I will sweep away the birds in the sky and the fish in the sea— and the idols that cause the wicked to stumble.”“When I destroy all mankind on the face of the earth,” declares the LORD, 4 “I will stretch out my hand against Judah and against all who live in Jerusalem. I will destroy every remnant of Baal worship in this place, the very names of the idolatrous priests— 5 those who bow down on the roofs to worship the starry host, those who bow down and swear by the LORDand who also swear by Molek,
6 And those who have turned back from following the LORD, And those who have not sought the LORD or inquired of Him."
7 Be silent before the Lord GOD! For the day of the LORD is near, For the LORD has prepared a sacrifice, He has consecrated His guests.
8 "Then it will come about on the day of the LORD'S sacrifice That I will punish the princes, the king's sons And all who clothe themselves with foreign garments.
9 "And I will punish on that day all who leap on the temple threshold, Who fill the house of their lord with violence and deceit. 10 "On that day," declares the LORD, "There will be the sound of a cry from the Fish Gate, A wail from the Second Quarter, And a loud crash from the hills.
11 "Wail, O inhabitants of the Mortar, For all the people of Canaan will be silenced; All who weigh out silver will be cut off. 12 "It will come about at that time That I will search Jerusalem with lamps, And I will punish the men Who are stagnant in spirit, Who say in their hearts, 'The LORD will not do good or evil!'
13 "Moreover, their wealth will become plunder And their houses desolate; Yes, they will build houses but not inhabit them, And plant vineyards but not drink their wine." 14 Near is the great day of the LORD, Near and coming very quickly; Listen, the day of the LORD! In it the warrior cries out bitterly. 15 A day of wrath is that day, A day of trouble and distress, A day of destruction and desolation, A day of darkness and gloom, A day of clouds and thick darkness, 16 A day of trumpet and battle cry Against the fortified cities And the high corner towers. 17 I will bring distress on men So that they will walk like the blind, Because they have sinned against the LORD; And their blood will be poured out like dust And their flesh like dung. 18 Neither their silver nor their gold Will be able to deliver them On the day of the LORD'S wrath; And all the earth will be devoured In the fire of His jealousy, For He will make a complete end, Indeed a terrifying one, Of all the inhabitants of the earth.
tell this to Slapshot......it's like the answered prayer in the last ten minutes of the subject video, Slappy is atheist and insists answered prayer never happens. Do something useful besides arguing with me.
No one sees anything unless God shows them. and God doesn't show anyone anything but more darkness and blindness if their heart is against Him!
Thats why Jesus said go in tell them, if they reject slap your sandals together and move on. He has the sword that knows how to divide every intent in the heart!
make your own discussion and try to keep it focused on the gospel instead of junk begging for reproof like your silly indefinite definition of the word "day".
You know their all burning as their standing. We are all burning as we're standing. The question is will we remain through the testings and trials. Through to the end.
Don't you think its odd that in a short time like almost overnight debravity has become out of control and , social media a huge part of it, &vicious;and has outgrown the partying fun of Pinnochio's fair grounds. And now the depravity is consuming itself, adding also the churches compromising in large groups. You have to ask, did they read the bibe? The act like Jesus may never come back.
It's like they don't know God at all. This is judgement with the hate groups consuming from within, and terrorism from without
This will grow and keep getting uglier as wrath keeps getting poured our. Eventually there will be burning. As the world gets uglier it will eventually become a reality.
We have be on our guard, to still be different and love, and forgive, and be kind, and be a witness Testifying of Jesus. And call out to people going buy that maye they will wake up.
He wants to warn us His people, and people who turn their hearts who are ready.
That's what we need to do now, not condemn and diivide in bitterness, that's the Spirit of the age. We are supposed to have good fruit on our trees.
Darkness and deception are taking over like they've been poured out. Hate Violence Murder it's out in the open. It's not our news, it's our experience. C
hurches doing unthinkable compromises, While the people if God just stand by, without opening their mouths. We need to atleast tell them, they are being judged.people don't even realize their drinking a cup of God's wrath. call out to them buy into an idea of tolerance without at least speaking the Word of God.
I am serious Jesus is coming back for 1 Bride, He wants oneness in His Word and in Him. That's not an option. We lay everything down and follow, and that includes these divisions.
make your own discussion and try to keep it focused on the gospel instead of junk begging for reproof like your silly indefinite definition of the word "day".