"No God doesn't force people to believe in Him and or the Bible. It is up to the person to decide if they want to follow God. I already addressed that but you weren't paying attention.

Are you talking about the Crusades that wiped out civilization of nonbelievers? Those weren't true Christians because true Christians wouldn't kill in the name of Jesus."

Yes he does. I was disputing you so i did read your argument. And no actually, im not talking about the crusades but ill address that now. People back then were more christian than anyone today. They followed the bible more closely than ever in history. You may think they were extreme or wrong but they were the REAL christians. The bible says kill gays. They did it. Kill witches, they did it. Beat slaves, they did it. And MUCH more. They 100% adhered to that strict code. And in the name of their lord they went to take back the holy land which resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Now to what i WAS refering to:

Exodus 32 vs: 26-29

(Summarized) Moses says to the levites that god told them to go through a camp killing men, women, children, friends, brothers, ect. After 3000 people are slaughtered Moses says god has blessed them this day.

Ezekiel 9 vs: 5-7

Moses tells them to go through a city and kill without pitty or compassion. "Slaughter the old men, the young men and women, the mothers and children" but not anyone with a mark on their forehead. They go through the city killing everyone and moses says that god wants them to defile the temple and fill the courtyard with corpses.

Exodus 12 vs: 29

At midnight god strikes down every firstborn in Egypt.

Matthew 10 vs: 34-37

Jesus says that he as not come to earth to bring peace, but a sword. He came to turn man against their families .

Matthew 10 vs: 39

" WHOEVER LOSES THEIR LIFE FOR MY SAKE WILL FIND IT"

Now i could quote similar stories and passages all day but i think i made my point. The entire OT is filled with stories of cities being sacked because god said so and other attrocities he commands be done. Oh actually one more story. There was a man named Elija. And he was a prophet of god and got news of some people worshipping the god Baal in a adjacent country. So he took a small army and went to them. He said "i come in the name of God, the lord of israel". Elija proposed a test to see which god was real. He and the prophets of Baal both set up sacrificial pyres with a bull on it (blood sacrifice btw) and Elija said you go first. So the prophets danced and appealed to their god doing everything they could. But their pyre didnt light. So Elija then dumped water on his pyre and threw rocks on it (making it more difficult to light) and said "In the name of the lord let this pyre be lit" and it burst into flames vaporizing the rocks and cooking the bull. The prophets then knew the true god. Happy ending right? The Baal prophets found the true god. Well theres more. After this, Elija says to his army "take then into the valley below and slaughter them for their heresy" and the some 450 prophets were executed. There, another story not only suggesting that if you ask god he will prove himself, but that you should try to prove to people god is real and convert and kill them. History is even peppered with this. The crusades, inquisition, and witch hunts are direct results of this.

"We try to live a perfect life even tho we can't because we have all sinned but everyday we try to live our best for God"

Now to the second part of your rebutal. You really didnt refute anything. You're still living FOR this god. To PLEASE this god. And on a side note, christianity is so demeaning. Who wants to believe were all worthless sinners in the eyes of the god? I dont think im worthless. Im a good person. Sure we all have faults. An weve all done things we shouldnt have. But that doesnt make us worthless sinners. It makes us human. And i believe being human is a wonderfull thing. Im proud of our race. And it sickens me to see a religion that treats our simple nature as a soul condemning disease that needs to be cleansed because were too pathetic to help ourselves.

"Christianity is not a religion its a relationship with Jesus Christ. Religion is man's way to get to God and Christianity is God's way to get to man.

Christians don't use scare tactics to convert people they tell them about Jesus and how He loves and saves people from whatever sin they committed."

On to the third part. Yes its a religion. That statement is stupid. It fits both the definition of a religion and the definition of a cult. Religion is a set of beliefs that one follows. Christianity is the one that "gets people to god". Wicca is a religion, and i know for a fact it doesnt bring people to "god". Neither does buddhism. You could say its mans way of reaching a divine force beyond our own world through different practices. But the idea that all religions are working towards your god is an arrogant idea. Also, why does your god (he being all powerfull) need an organized belief system with a church and rules to get to us? He can do whatever he wants. He doesnt need christianity. And no, i think everyone will agree with the fact that christianity is how people reach their god. Not the other way around.

Which brings me to your last statements. Are you kidding me? They dont use scare tactics? Well back in history they used the scare tactics of an army outside another peoples walls, or a sword to their throats to convert them. Nowadays its the scare tactic of hell. I hear people all the time "if you dont do blah blah blah you go to hell" or "you dont wanna go to hell do you?". Peoples fear of this afterlife is what keeps them in christianity. I always hear the argument when debating with christians "what if you're wrong?" well then id go to hell. And the fact they bring this up means they fear this place. They dont want to go there so they try to please god. Get real, nobody really WANTS to please god everyday and do all this shit just for god. No, what always drives them is this fear of hell. Sure, to someone who doesnt know Christianity, talking about the good side of it like jesus would get people interested to say the least. But once theyre in theyre kept there by the fear of hell, and teachings that make sure they dont ask questions or leave (for fear of hell). There would not be NEARLY as many christians nowadays if hell wasnt in the religion. "What happens if i dont obey god?" "well...nothing but- "BYE!". And Jesus didnt teach all love. He said he came to break families apart. Told people they were unworthy of him if they didnt, and if they didnt sell everything they owned. He advocated theft at one point and murder in another. He didnt let a girl bury her father because if she didnt he would deem her unworthy of him. He killed a fig tree because it didnt give him fruit. He had sex right before his crucifixion. And told people to mutilate themselves so they dont sin, otherwise theyll be cast into hell. Seriously. He wasnt all love and peace. Most of the time he didnt make sense, didnt know what he was talking about, or spread absurdities and hate. At least biblically speaking.

Christianity is not a religion its a relationship with Jesus Christ

You've got to be kidding me. How dumb are you people? You just blatantly believe in blind faith without even questioning it!

Christians don't use scare tactics to convert people they tell them about Jesus and how He loves and saves people from whatever sin they committed.

My ass they don't. "Believe in this or you will rot in hell for an eternity"? "You're going to hell because you don't follow God's way"? Christians EVERYWHERE use scare tactics to have people join them, and apparently it worked on you as well.

the Faithful can not understand God. How can you understand the fear if you can't understand the source of it?

ouAttempting to understand god is essentially attempting to understand the infinite space and intricacies of the Universe. It cannot be done.

Besides, before God, there was Thor and Zeus and Ra. Monotheism is a relatively new concept. That implies that we INVENTED it. what God does to us, we do to ourselves.

When you can understand that God is an invention necessitated from fear, you can understand God. When you understand God, you no longer need him and He ceases to exist.

No fear = no God.

1. Voluntary choice or decision. 2. Freedom of humans to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or by divine intervention. - Merriam-Webster Dictionary