Freedom of belief is not real
Inspired by a comment made by atrag.
I have some examples on which beliefs you are not allow to have, or at least not allowed to say out loud.
In Germany it is illegal to be a nazi - you are not allowed to publish any pro-nazirelated articles, books, whatever.
In Denmark, and many other countries in Scandinavia, it is illegal by law to discriminate by skincolor, belief, ethnic origin or sexuality. (Breaking this law can result in jailtime up to two years)
I read somewhere that it is illegal to be a racist in America, I'm not sure if this is true though.
These are examples of laws that violate your freedom of belief, and some of them even violate the freedom of speech.
So Dana, do you still think the nazis should have the right to openly preach how Germany is only meant for germans, and the entire jewish race should be wiped out? Do you think it is acceptable for people to think black people are meant to be slaves? Do you think it is a human right ot have the opinion that homosexuals should be killed?
How I see it, you can either choose between the freedom to believe what you want, or be free from discrimination.
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You guys keep creating a false dichotomy. Freedom just means you are allowed to do something. Freedom to believe has nothing to with discrimination. do you still think the nazis should have the right to openly preach how Germany is only meant for germans, and the entire jewish race should be wiped out? This is not a belief, these are actions taken that aren't allowed. Do you think it is acceptable for people to think black people are meant to be slaves? Yes, you aren't doing any harm by having stupid thoughts. If you act on it it is a problem. Do you think it is a human right ot have the opinion that homosexuals should be killed? Unfortunately, yes. I actually think this one is not so bad. Imagine having a nutjob detector. Side: Freedom To Believe
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No, it is impossible to arrest someone solely for their beliefs. If someone doesn't express their beliefs you have no idea what the person believes. It is illegal to show your beliefs, not to have them. Those are the actions I was referring to. "openly preach" is an action, not a belief. Side: Freedom To Believe
You've got it all wrong here. Discrimination refers only to a physical act. You can't discriminate against someone simply by thought alone. People should have the right to say whatever stupid things they want. It's only when you act on those beliefs that you should be punished. Side: Freedom To Believe
This is the 18th article of the Human Rights: "Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance" So the freedom of belief is not simply the right to think in a specific way. It is also the right to share one's ideas, acting upon them. The freedom of belief obviously doesn't imply the right to act upon belief without restraint. Neo-nazis can't just go killing people simply because they believe they must. In accordance with the freedom of belief, however, they are allowed to share and discuss their views. If Germany has made nazism an illegal ideology, then Germany has contradicted the freedom of belief. Maybe it's a good thing maybe it's not. I think this contradiction can be justified, although I don't think I would agree. (I am not sure if 'belief' is only supposed to be understood as religious beliefs in the quote above...) Side: Freedom To Believe
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