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Defend Freedom Defend Order
Debate Score:189
Arguments:60
Total Votes:226
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Freedom vs. Order

Should laws be developed for the purpose of defending freedom or defending order?

 

Defend Freedom

Side Score: 109
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Defend Order

Side Score: 80
6 points

we should be allowed to express our selves tho way we want without anybodytelling us otherwise

Side: Defend Freedom
6 points

Everyone deserves Freedom. We all would go crazy if we didnt have the right to do what we want. Things would also go wrong if we had always to do Order. Both topics are equal because with both give you your rights.

Side: Defend Both
5 points

ANARCHY!

ANARCHY!

ANARCHY!

ANARCHY!

Ahahaha, no but laws create order, not freedom.

I can honestly say that creating laws do not create freedom.

Side: Defend Freedom
sroberts(2) Disputed
5 points

freedom is needed to some people who feel trapped. People dont wanna be orderd around all there lifes..

Side: Defend Order
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

I know this is old but whatever.

You said: "laws create order, not freedom."

What about the laws that protect you? Like murder. You may not have the freedom to murder but you have more safety because of that law. So it's almost as if that law gives you more freedom, to live safely.

Side: Defend Both
2 points

I'm glad you brought that up, because it does get a bit hazy. As I see it, the law creates restraint and punishes people who would otherwise do these things because they hurt other people. They take away the 'freedoms' of murdering, raping, and abuse because these things are wrong and they do damage to others. But they're still freedoms that are being taken away. They're being taken away for the right reason, yes. But they're still gone, and they're replaced with order. Order that keeps people from getting hurt by one another.

It still takes away the freedom.(In this case, the freedom to murder.) It's just that nobody with morals and a right mind would outright commit any of these acts.

I guess it all depends on what your definition of freedom is, though.

Side: Defend Order
5 points

While I do not believe that people should have a free reign... I do believe the United States federal government is far too powerful... and more powerful than it was ever intended to be by our founding fathers. They way it should be is individual states have the freedom to govern the people of thier respective territory while the federal government should be there to protect the people rights from the states. The federal government should not be responsible for making laws and prosecuting people of the United States. That should be the states job. Right now we have both making laws and regulations as they see fit... and no one looking out for us.

Side: Defend Freedom
5 points

Freedom is something that your born with...and its the most amazing feeling that you will ever feel in your life. I say this because we all need to have a little freedom in our lives so do all the other people..We just all need it because we alll need to be free once in awhile.

Side: Defend Freedom
5 points

we all need freedom..because we were born to be free and if not we'd all be miserable and lost...also chaos would soon take place..i think feedom, means to live with society without having problems with eachother..with freedom there'd be peace! freedom is a thing we should have in life, expecially with everything going differently. its hard to not follow rules but without rules there'd be so much violence in this world!!!!

Side: Defend Order
Rabt(2) Disputed
1 point

While this certainly seems a good sentiment, history shows that people don't live in society without having problems with one another. Those with little steal from and resent those who have more than they and those with much often maintain what they have at the expense of others.

An orderly law system has shown itself to stave off the impulses of humanity to a point where society can exist with certain amounts of freedom.

Side: Defend Order
4 points

Too many laws are made to discourage freedom. Dubya said after 9/11 that America's way of Freedom had been attacked. I don't believe so. America's way of order had been attacked. We are still free to do the same things that we had before 9/11. Order in America was disturbed that day, not freedom. Order has to do with the ability to not worry of being attacked or killed walking down the street. Freedom has to do with making your own choices in life.

Side: Defend Freedom
6 points

there are too much laws, we need freedom to, the government is to powerful now adays.There is to much order but it is sometimes good to have order because people sometimes take advantage of freedom.

Side: Defend Both
5 points

Everybody has the right to be free.. we are not all the same. will if there wasn't order there would be a lot of chaos in there world and there would be nobody alive..

Side: Defend Both
5 points

I defend Order because with Order, Freedom wouldn't really need anything to do with it. If you follow the rules of Order than you can do the right thing and have Freedom at the same time.

Side: Defend Order
4 points

The United States was always Powerful, and will tend to stay powerful. Freedom is needed in this world. But I don't know why there ain't hardly freedom in the States. I currently think freedom should be in the states, even though if it ain't all around the states, just on some certain areas. People all around this world wouldn't be able to live with order. They need to live free, even the United States. They need freedom. Although their very powerful.

Side: Defend Freedom
4 points

I think their still doing the same thing from the pass their always a ruler to control us so is that really freedom NO man everyone should have a right to say whatever he wants instead the man in charge is making ten maybe 20 times more money a normal person well in a life time soory for being long.

Side: Defend Freedom
4 points

Everyone deserves to do what they choose to do when they want, your in control of your own life. The government can't control everything.

Side: Defend Freedom
4 points

people surely have the right to have their own freedom. people dont need other people to make their decisions for them. Freedom is the key to possability; freedom is power; freedom is everything without freedom or having the right to vote and stuff people would go crazy.

Side: Defend Freedom
3 points

Laws defend freedom because without laws there would be no freedom..... and that people would feel free to kill someone if they wanted to....or even steal or beat up anyone they feel free to....

Side: Defend Freedom
3 points

i would say that are freedom is still the same but it would be a lot different if we didnt have the order we have todayy we are still free but a lot more rules to go with that freedom because if we didnt have order we wouldnt have anything so thats that

Side: Defend Freedom
3 points

The government has way too much power and they use it to their own advantage, they make too many laws and everyone has the right to do what they want as long as it's appropriate. On the other hand, order keeps everything from keeping falling apart but overall, freedom is key to a happy, successful life.

Side: Defend Freedom
2 points

I sure agree on the freedom. We should have the right to have our own decision to do what we need and what we want, I would sure like to choose for my self. If the law is different from what the people want then why cant the people vote?

Side: Defend Freedom
2 points

They call me bo dawg , yo listen up , i got a little a little rhyme for yall ( im rappingxD , Dont hate , ight ? ) . Freedom is the way , Order is no way to govern a country , I can do this all day , anarchy is the definition of life , order is the knife that get you from the back , dude thats just wack , f this rap battle im in outtie , here tell these people something they dont know about me . :p;)<3

Side: Defend Freedom
2 points

Freedom:is good once in awhile cause we have the right to be Free and do things like Travel and stuff.

Order:is sometimes good cause without order the world would go mad and break and blow up the world.

Side: Defend Both
1 point

I think we should defend freedom because it's a free world.

Side: Defend Freedom
1 point

I defend Freedom because with out freedom, we wouldn't know what we really want in the world, we also wouldn't show who we really are. I also defend freedom because with out it, Who are we?

Side: Defend Freedom
1 point

we as people of canada have the right to be free as we want so we should accept the fact that we arnt just crazy hoodlums running around killling people is becuase we know whats the right thing to do around here and not do anything bad that hurt the family of others and in the end hurt us in the inside :) bye lose u <3

Side: Defend Freedom
1 point

everybody wants freedom i do too. there should be freedom they should give what the people want. but the world should not go on a riot or be in a chaos we should all live free

and we shall ...

Side: Defend Freedom
1 point

We would have to defend freedom because freedom is what makes our nation great.

But order is just as important

Side: Defend Freedom
1 point

I mean, look at all the other countries with only order. the way there lives goo. Ain't it just sadd. They atleast need a little freedom in there lives. I currently Think this whole wold need a lil freedom. Even though there is still orders..

Side: Defend Freedom
1 point

i would like to defend feedom, because we all need freedom in our lives and so do other people i mean think about how it would be if we didnt have freedom we would be so lost and lonely and we may feel like dying. beause well feel so lost!

Side: Defend Freedom
1 point

im goin with both but mostly freedom becuz everybody has the riight to be free we as a nation have to have order too! if not..we are goin to pay the price and be sorry in the end..our nation needs to restore order in some areas..thats when the "pigz" come in and restore order..haha

Side: Defend Freedom
1 point

freedom means alot to anyone.. there is a reason for having freedom everywhere we go and everyone we know needs freedom..if we don't have freedom people wouldn't know how to really live their lives or have the experience to make their own decisions about what path they would like follow...so yes i argree that if their was no freedom in life.. it would not be a life at all!!

Side: Defend Freedom
1 point

In this World Everyone Needs Freedom in order to live life, "Yet" Everyone needs Order as well... I would Defend both Freedom and Order! We all deserve to be free and feel free to do things that makes a person happy, but it doesn't mean we need to go all wild, crazy, and be disrespectful in any way, not that everyone does something like that but some do... that's why Order needs to step in once in a while and let you know hey that isn't right, why laws were created? So a person wouldn't go too far in doing something they may regret afterwards, if all there was, was only freedom then chaos begins to creep in and Yes we also do have a right to fight for our freedom and do things as long as it would help others and ourselves!

Some things are Free, Somethings aren't! We need to be able to accept that.

Side: Defend Both
1 point

If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose that too.

Side: Defend Freedom
-1 points

I argee with everyone on this one. Cause everyone is right on this one cause yea everyones cool & stuff.

Side: Defend Freedom
8 points

laws are developeed for the purpose of order .. if there was no laws.. what would the world be like ?.. most likely have chaos in the world.. and if there was freedom the world would be going crazy fighting eachother..

Side: Defend Order

I do not believe this is an either/or situation for we require laws to ensure our freedoms and order in the land. One without the other would be intolerable. We are a Democracy but it doesn't come without laws nor can we act without them no matter how good a citizen we are. Both types of laws can be over and under done therefore we need a balance of the two.

Side: Defend Both
gtride26(13) Disputed
5 points

the real problem is that the entire make up of our government has been jumbled from what it originaly was.... The federal government as FAR too much power

Side: Defend Freedom
6 points

Laws deffend order i think because if there was no order and only freedom why would the Law even be developed in the first place.

Side: Defend Order
1 point

yeah i think that you are totally right on this..and everyone else should support you too..lol

Side: Defend Order
5 points

i agree with order because if we didnt have order we would probably be all dead by now, everybody would do anything they wanted to do, with no rules the world would be crazy... but it's be nice to have a some freedom.... :)

Side: Defend Order
5 points

i think it is good to have freedom and order because we could have rules and still have freedom to do other things.!

Side: Defend Both
5 points

With out rules and regulations there will be choas and anarchy in the streets.Order gives people a code of conduct for a social group to follow,order promise's protection,value and jugement...

Side: Defend Order
5 points

Laws deffend order because without order there would be chaos and people fighting each other, and the world would be crazy without order.

Side: Defend Order
5 points

I go with order is because if we didn't have no orders, then people would think our community and others are crazy. Maybe there wouldn't even be anyone left, cause people fight and hate each other and they would of done something, thats if we didn't have no orders.So im saying i choose order and its a good thing !

Side: Defend Order
4 points

We need freedom because if there was no freedom at all there would be a lot of chaos and also people would take over sooner or later because threes no freedom and no one would listen after awhile, the world would go crazy and there would never be peace again so let there be freedom and peace.

Side: Defend Order
4 points

Everyone would go crazy..without the laws around everyone will cause chaos

Side: Defend Order
2 points

Order is needed in our society and others. But some countries go over board when they think about order. Anyways without order EVERYONE would have the rights to do whatever the "F" they want.... and i dont think that would be a good idea.

Thats all i have to say..... Bye

Side: Defend Order
2 points

It's a 50/50 for me on both freedom and order. If there wasn't any order everyone would be killing. Order helps us with our safety. Freedom helps us show that we can be who we want to be. We can express ourselves. Order helps us be sane. If we only had freedom, God only knows what would happen. Everyone wouldn't survive in this world without order.

Side: Defend Order
1 point

I argee with everyone on this one, Cause everyone one on this one is right & stuff

Side: Defend Order
1 point

orders are orders and Freedom is Freedom...There has too be orders and if not then there will be chaos so thats why people make orders too follow them and there still will be freedom but not really too much.

Side: Defend Order
1 point

I think that if there was no order the world would be full of chos

and with ouy order their is no freedom withn the world these are two of the main things people around the world look for when or bofore they go some place order is so important in any community if their was no order or freedom the world would be so full of hate disrespect and other things it would be like the end of the world

Side: Defend Order
1 point

im defending order because if we had no order then the people would think that they can do whatever they want and maybe end up killing people we love, and people would destroy everthing like our homes our stores and so on...... and also our world would be in total chaos!!!

Side: Defend Order
1 point

I think that the laws should be made for order, maybe because if there was just freedom rights... there would be alot more fighting than there is today. Order brings a sence of fear of someone/something greater than themselves. Without Order, I don't think there would be any Laws made... because Order brings a balance in the econemy.

Side: Defend Order
1 point

people to live without order would be anarchy and it would lead to everyone making the worse decisions about life or this world would have nothing, everything would be destroyed and everyone would be lost..most likely our world would come to an end...which people wouldn't care because without order how was things gonna get better for anyone!!!

Side: Defend Order
1 point

laws are there for us to follow. If it is for freedom, then what use was it to create laws in the first place if we do not follow them?

Side: Defend Freedom
1 point

Benjamin Franklin is reported to have said, “Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

While this might seem to support the position of freedom, we must analyze the times of Benjamin Franklin to realize that he supported the cause of order as much as if not more than freedom. We must understand that he was not speaking of liscense (The right to do whatever you desire to obtain your goals) but instead freedom (the right to act in a society to which one has assented).

To be clearer, to involved oneself in any society is to place on oneself certain burdens of order and to lose "liscense." Freedom and order are not necessarily contradictory. Instead, order can allow for freedom within a society where it would not exist in anarchy.

Side: Defend Order

I want to be safe. I don't want anyone attacking me on the street or breaking into my home.

Side: Defend Order
0 points

Freedom is a very abstract concept. Order, on the other hand, works for all.

Side: Defend Order