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That'll get r done Trump can do no wrong
Debate Score:64
Arguments:42
Total Votes:98
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Gimme money for the wall or immigrants'll come across and KILL you..


That'll get r done

Side Score: 30
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Trump can do no wrong

Side Score: 34
-1 points

Whether illegals kill anyone or not, they still are not legally allowed to come into the country and stay. If we can ignore that law, we can ignore any laws, and then the laws protect no one.

Side: That'll get r done
-1 points

A few things.

1)Some do kill us.

We have the right to prevent people from killing us.

2)Some are terrorists

We have the right to vet for terrorists.

3)The cartels are working the border with ease, and use the money to enhance their tyranny and control in Mexico. We have the right to prevent tyrannical cartels from using us to advance crime, sex trafficking, and tyrannical power.

4)The caravan was orchestrated and actually overran Mexican military personel. Now they have invited themselves to Tijuana and its resources.

We have the right to prevent invasions.

5)Inviting yourself illegaly to a country isn't migration. It's invasion.

6)Illegals drive down jobs and wages. We have the right to implement and protect a system that produces jobs and wage growth as opposed to bringing in slave labor for rich companies to use as slaves and not have to pay decent wages to anyone.

7)If a wall doesn't work, what are libs worried about...

Side: Trump can do no wrong
Mint_tea(3876) Disputed
2 points

7)If a wall doesn't work, what are libs worried about...

Easy, WHEN the wall doesn't work, we'll have spent billions of dollars on a worthless testament to Trump instead of spending it on fixing our infrastructure and applying that money towards schools, healthcare, and homeless.

Side: That'll get r done
outlaw60(13999) Disputed
0 points

Hey Dummy can you tell me where Obama's trillion dollar infrastructure plan rebuilt one road !

Come on Little Gurl Socialist you got a response ???????????

Side: Trump can do no wrong
outlaw60(13999) Disputed
0 points

Dummy have your Socialist spent any money on infrastructure for electric cars from coast to coast ? Little Gurl what you got to say ?

Side: Trump can do no wrong
outlaw60(13999) Disputed
0 points

Little Gurl let's have a look at San Fran just for fun !

https://andmagazine.com/us/1534532841.html

Human Waste On The Streets, Sidewalks, And Inside Public Buildings

Published on August 17, 2018

San Francisco is awash in waste. Not just trash. Not just junk. Human waste. In fact, the problem is so acute that the city has now formed a special unit, a "poop patrol" to clean the streets most negatively impacted, and the city has had to increase by 20% the amount it budgets for removal of human feces from public places. Even the mayor, who grew up in the city, acknowledges that she has never seen so much human waste on the streets, on the sidewalks and in some cases on escalators in public buildings. Since January the city's 311 number has received roughly 15,000 calls from residents reporting "poop" in public areas.

Dummy you should pay attention because your Socialist Buddies in California do not care about the homeless and you have been linked you Ignorant Bitch !!!!!!

Side: Trump can do no wrong
Bronto(2003) Disputed
-1 points

Easy, WHEN the wall doesn't work, we'll have spent billions of dollars on a worthless testament to Trump instead of spending it on fixing our infrastructure and applying that money towards schools, healthcare, and homeless.

Guess how much money we spent on infrastructure of foreign countries under Obama.

Since 2008, international assistance spending has increased each year. In fiscal 2009, it climbed to $14.827 billion. In fiscal 2010, it jumped to $20.038 billion. And, in fiscal 2011, it climbed again to $20.599 billion.

By the end of August, after the first eleven months of fiscal 2012, the federal government had already spent $20.058 on foreign aid in that fiscal year.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-increased-foreign-aid-80-spent-76- more-foreign-aid-border-security

Side: Trump can do no wrong
Mint_tea(3876) Disputed
1 point

1)Some do kill us.

Sure, some do. We do a pretty good job of killing each other, murders by illegal immigrants are a drop in a bucket compared to the wave of murders Americans commit against fellow Americans.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/have-undocumented-killed-63000-us-9-11/

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/622540331/fact-check-trump-illegal-immigration-and-crime

2)Some are terrorists

Sure, some may be. The problem with terrorism is that most who enter this country to preform a terrorist attack on U.S soil do so on Visa's. A perfectly LEGAL way to enter this country.

https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/terrorism-immigration-risk-analysis

3)The cartels are working the border with ease, and use the money to enhance their tyranny and control in Mexico.

A few months ago an American soldier was arrested trying to smuggle cocaine from Colombia into Eglin Air Force Base. More, there are "drug mules" who are legal US citizens that cross the border smuggling drugs as well. If we make marjuana legal in the US and tax the hell out of it, we can apply that money towards our schools and it would put a huge hurt on one of the largest drugs smuggled across the boarder.

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/08/20/special-forces-soldier-arrested-in-botched-cocaine-smuggling-plot/

https://drugabuse.com/featured/drug-trafficking-across-borders/

5)Inviting yourself illegaly to a country isn't migration.

It's also something current American ancestors have done for generations. From the English to the Irish to the Chinese.

6)Illegals drive down jobs and wages.

So how about we fix the system and find a way to encourage manufacturing jobs to return to US soil and give incentives to businesses that provide work for our people? It's a much better way to help Americans than build a wall that 60% of illegal immigrants just flew over.

Side: That'll get r done
Bronto(2003) Disputed
1 point

Sure, some do. We do a pretty good job of killing each other, murders by illegal immigrants are a drop in a bucket compared to the wave of murders Americans commit against fellow Americans.

We have crime, so illegals should be invited to commit crime here as well, isn't a very convincing argument.

Sure, some may be. The problem with terrorism is that most who enter this country to preform a terrorist attack on U.S soil do so on Visa's. A perfectly LEGAL way to enter this country.

If someone is committing crime on my right, I still have the right to prevent crime haplening on my left.

A few months ago an American soldier was arrested trying to smuggle cocaine from Colombia into Eglin Air Force Base. More, there are "drug mules" who are legal US citizens that cross the border smuggling drugs as well. If we make marjuana legal in the US and tax the hell out of it, we can apply that money towards our schools and it would put a huge hurt on one of the largest drugs smuggled across the boarder.

Cool. I still have the right to keep cartels from sex trafficking and drug smuggling in and out of the country. "Joe is hurting me" isn't a logical reason to prevent Jim from hurting me.

It's also something current American ancestors have done for generations. From the English to the Irish to the Chinese.

So why would you welcome more invaders onto invaded land? To reinact the past land grab?

Side: Trump can do no wrong
Bronto(2003) Disputed
1 point

So how about we fix the system and find a way to encourage manufacturing jobs to return to US soil and give incentives to businesses that provide work for our people?

That's why we now have 400,000 new manufacturing jobs compared to -20,000 under Obama.

It's a much better way to help Americans than build a wall that 60% of illegal immigrants just flew over.

The US government wastes more than $5 billion a week. How are poverty stricken people who can't afford to eat affording plane tickets again?

Side: Trump can do no wrong
outlaw60(13999) Disputed
-1 points

You are a babbling bitch ! So tell us how many Illegal Aliens in numbers that you need in the United States !

Side: Trump can do no wrong
AlofRI(2485) Clarified
1 point

1) Some do kill us

Some NRA members do kill us.

We have the right to "vet" for terrorists or crackpots …. or we SHOULD have! They kill far more of us than immigrants that come across the border. A FEW end up as gang members, joining gangs that are already here, but, they mostly kill each other .. or their rivals. That's a police matter. $5B , or a nice fraction OF that would help the police settle that mess better than a "wall".

Side: That'll get r done
-1 points

https://www.fairus.org/press-releases/washington-taxpayers-foot-27-billion-annual-bill-illegal-immigration

Hey STUPID STUPID you like the taxes your DUMB ASS pays for the Illegal Aliens ?

(October 15, 2012 - Washington, D.C.) - A new study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) estimates that illegal immigration costs taxpayers in Washington State about $2.7 billion annually. The average Washington household headed by a U.S. citizen bears an annual burden of about $970 to cover the costs associated with illegal aliens in the state. Moreover, the costs associated with illegal immigration are about equal to the amount lawmakers had to slash from the state budget to close a projected shortfall.

The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Aliens on Washingtonians examines the cost of providing services and benefits to the state’s 275,000 illegal aliens and 104,000 dependent U.S.-born children. The report also looks at the costs associated with the administration of criminal justice and incarceration of criminal illegal aliens.

Among the key findings of The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Aliens on Washingtonians:

The cost of providing K-12 education to an estimated 127,000 children of illegal aliens (including students who are themselves illegal and the U.S.-born children of illegal aliens) amounts to $1.6 billion annually.

Washington voluntarily provides $3.8 million annually in subsidized in-state tuition benefits for illegal aliens attending public colleges and universities, even as public higher education budgets are being slashed.

Unreimbursed health care and social assistance programs cost Washingtonians $652 million a year.

Justice and law enforcement costs associated with illegal aliens add $172 million to the state’s tab.

“Washington lawmakers have laid out the welcome mat for illegal aliens, while struggling Washington taxpayers are getting stuck with the bills,” observed Dan Stein, president of FAIR. “At the state and local level, political leaders have bent over backwards to accommodate and welcome illegal aliens. Most of the state’s major jurisdictions provide sanctuary to illegal aliens. The state has even gone so far as to reduce misdemeanor sentences to 364 days to prevent criminal aliens from being subject to deportation under federal law. In addition, Washington remains one of only two states to issue driver’s licenses to illegal aliens. All this generosity to illegal aliens is coming out of the pockets of law-abiding taxpayers, or in the form of diminished services and higher costs to everyone else in Washington.”

SUPER STUPID has the cost of Illegal Aliens been reduced since 2012 ? Best i remember your Loved Nigger was POTUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Trump can do no wrong