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God doesn't hate homosexuals, he is just mad at them

When God created Adam and Eve, he told them not to eat the forbidden fruit, but then they did.

So because they did something that wasn't allowed, they needed a punishment.

Eve's punishment was pregnancy, birth, menstrual cycle and all that shit.

Adam's punishment was that he had to deal with women.

 

But then some guy found a loophole. Why deal with women, when you can fuck men?

 

So again, God doesn't hate homosexuals, he's just mad about that they found a loophole in the system.

 

Omg you got a point there

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I do not believe that God is hating gays. Shrugs. .

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lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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Does God hate those who do evil?

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Sitara(11080) Disputed
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No. He died on the cross for our sins. He maybe hates those who refuse His offer, but I would have to do some research.

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I thought that God only hated gays who acted on their gayness. So, i think if you were gay but you didn't act on it and stayed celibate and never got into a homosexual relationship, then you would be able to go to heaven. I mean that sucks, but God's a bit of a bigot.

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Pigwidgeon(67) Clarified
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Nah. That wouldn't work. You'd still be lusting over men in your head/heart. Lust is a sin and lusting over a man is another sin, so there. The only people who are safe are asexuals and eunuchs, I guess.

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God hates what they are doing not the person.

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lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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So why does the Bible say that God hates those who do wickedness?

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God doesn't smile upon witchcraft or anything that is connected with evil.

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It is commonly accepted comic-law that you give a reference when you take a bit.

That is a near verbatim piece of stand-up from (I want to say Louie C.K., but won't swear to it).

I like you Shout, but reference where you take bits from.

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shoutoutloud(4303) Clarified
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It wasn't Louie C.K for sure. It was some other guy, I don't remember his name. But I love that you watch stand-up too, makes me feel less of an outsider ;)

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If god hates homosexuals and/or homosexual activity, then why did he/she/it give human beings ways (thoughts, urges, etc..) act upon them? Isn't he all knowing? He/she/it should have known that would have happened and yet he/she/it didn't stop it?

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Lol true but lol. And i need a lot more characters soooooooooooo

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Homosexuality is not a sin; homosexual acts are sinful; a practicing homosexual cannot go to heaven.

God hates the non-elect in a personal sense; however, He loves everyone in a broad sense.

His non-elect are those who will not go to heaven and have not been chosen by God to do so: they have been chosen by God to not believe.

Therefore, some homosexuals are hated by God because they are His non-elect; however, simply because they are homosexual does not mean that they are hated by God in the personal sense.

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Cuaroc(8829) Disputed
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God hates the non-elect in a personal sense; however, He loves everyone in a broad sense.

Then he Isn't omnibenevolent all loving here I'll post a definition for you.

Adjective[edit]

omnibenevolent

All-loving, or infinitely good, usually in reference to a deity or supernatural being, for example, 'God'. Its use is often with regards to the divine triad, whereby a deity is described to be simultaneously omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent. This triad is used especially with the Christian god, Yahweh.

The omnibenevolent God, by definition, was unable to withhold forgiveness from his people

Hating someone in any sense means he isn't All-loving or infinitely good.

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lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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All-loving is not equivalent to loving-all. Also, as I have stated, He loves-all in a scattered sense.

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So is being gay for pay a sin?

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lolzors93(3225) Clarified
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Any sexual relations outside of God's definition of marriage is sin.

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
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Can you explain why God would create the non elect, cause them to not believe and sin, then punish them for all eternity?

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lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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To display His wrath towards the wicked and for sin; also, to bring grace and mercy and love to His elect.

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BigOats(1449) Disputed
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You forget about free will. God did not cause the sinners to sin, they chose that path themselves.

I think that if somebody chooses not to believe in a self-contradicting doctrine, it's not a sin, but a right choice. Since God gave us reason, we have a right to use it. I think it's at least disrespectful to think that God can contradict himself, so it's OK not to believe everything that was written (by men), in the Bible.

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This argument can be theoretically solved with the one simple truth that God isn't real. If he was however, I doubt he'd give a monkey's bum hole whether guys were shagging guys or girls or girls were shagging girls or guys. Aren't there worse things for him to worry about like war, famine and that giant meteorite heading for us as we speak?! In all seriousness though, if there was a God, he wouldn't give a damn.

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It is commonly accepted comic-law that you give a reference when you take a bit.

That is a near verbatim piece of stand-up from (I want to say Louie C.K., but won't swear to it).

I like you Shout, but reference where you take bits from.

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What about monks?Does god hate them, too?

They don't have to deal with women. And they're not dirty homos, and receive none of the STDs (well, I hope, most of them aren't).

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