Yes, he sees everything including this site and others like facebook
406 days ago | Side: God is great
405 days ago | Side: God is great
We are all gods children so yes
405 days ago | Side: God is great
"God is on CreateDebate and he's watching you" It is not appropriate or suitable to talk about the exalted self of God in this way that we say God is every where by him self, but we have to be more polite while dealing with such issues. We would say that God is the heaven but he is omniscient that means God is with us with his knowledge of everything.
394 days ago | Side: God is great
Dude, God is in your pants!
337 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
This comment proves to me that you are just a troll pretending to be religious.
163 days ago | Side: God is great
thanks for the comment but your opinion means nothing to me dongninja!
161 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Adam and Eve's children's children were inbred. But implying by saying that we all have a common father does not necessarily let us conclude that we are inbred. The only way we could be inbred is when God banged his sister to give birth to us- assuming he had one.
405 days ago | Side: God is great
I am not impressed, Srom.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Why do you think every new person on here is srom? I don't know randomDudes password.
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Oh no! It's another srom imposter!
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
srom imposter? I don't know a clue about srom imposters so you are confusing me.
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Hey! I'm just some random dude! I don't know anyone's passwords! I just want to be me!
406 days ago | Side: God is great
The heck, you are Srom!!!!!
404 days ago | Side: God is great
You better not know my password! And don't try to figure it out either because that would be a sin and you would go to hell
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
I am not srom! I don't even know his user name or password
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Well if you say you don't know his password, that has to proof of something, right?
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
thank you and not only do i not know his password but i also don't know his username
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
god isent realy on this website but that dosent mean god isent whatching you god can see every thing
405 days ago | Side: God is great
Have you ever really considered what you are saying? Regardless, do you think he watches because he cares and has your back, or do you think he just knows what's going on because that's the way his god-brain works?
397 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
"God is on CreateDebate and he's watching you" It is not appropriate or suitable to talk about the exalted self of God in this way that we say God is every where by him self, but we have to be more polite while dealing with such issues. We would say that God is the heaven but he is omniscient that means God is with us with his knowledge of everything.
394 days ago | Side: God is great
We are all God's children, let us rejoice in his splender!
406 days ago | Side: God is great
We proved you wrong about God anyway. You just haven't responded yet. :D
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Even accepting your premise. Why? .................................................
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Because he is the chosen one!
405 days ago | Side: God is great
Chosen by who? Himself? What an egotistic little prick .
404 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Well, when you think about it, God is the ultimate insecure egomaniac. He creates Man, and then sets up this Hell place as a torture-palace for those who don't worship Him. It's kinda perverted, really. Like the ultimate Saw sequel in 3-D...
397 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Um, and this should lead to rejoicing and celebration why? That would be my question... accepting your premise.
397 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Yes folks, I am watching everything you do. Now get naked. Get... naked...
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Well, you aren't god but he does see you when you're naked and he's not happy about it
406 days ago | Side: God is great
If god cares about clothes why aren't we born with them? ....................................................
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
I never said he wants us to wear clothes because he doesn't, I said that he wouldn't be happy because that user was pretending to be god and that is a sin
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Ah, the old "I didn't say what I said" trick ... but he does see you when you're naked and he's not happy about it Gotta get up earlier in the morning than that to pull the wool over my eyes. But whatever. This is more fun, so... I never said he wants us to wear clothes because he doesn't So god doesn't want us wearing clothes huh? ... Creepy old unshaven bastard sitting up in heaven in is conveniently loose robe just hanging out, waiting for someone to get naked huh? ... "Where does slushy hail come from mommy?" "Slushy hail is when god is jerking off all over earth from under his robe honey"
404 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Ah, the old "I didn't say what I said" trick God sees all but you (obviously) don't. No one was talking to you but ChuckHades was the one I was talking to and it had nothing to do with you, whoever you are? CH knows what it meant. So god doesn't want us wearing clothes huh? Ummm, yeah? What is your problem with comprehension? No clothes for anyone is mandatory! I think I was pretty clear there?
404 days ago | Side: God is great
lmao Sooooo.... No clothes for anyone is mandatory! Got it, everyone needs to get rid of their cloths and walk around naked, and you feel strongly about it, with exclamations even. I sense some form of turrets or perhaps multiple personalities "wear clothes, don't wear clothes, god doesn't like you naked, god wants you to get rid of you clothes." Make up your mind.
397 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Turrets and multiple personalities are way too complex of explanations. One word: troll. Don't feed it.
397 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Why has God made you such an ignorant fool? Well, he has his reasons I guess, I never said God wants you to wear clothes... You're clueless, I never said God doesn't like you naked. You are just another totally fucking idiot that just makes shit up and hopes people on the internet will believe it and like you... guess what? They don't! Now, take your tiny little dick out of your hand and turn the computer off...
397 days ago | Side: God is great
What? Blasphemy! How dare you insinuate that I, your creator, am not God! That's it buddy, repent!
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Hypocrite.............................you said you'd throw a stone at God........
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
if he tries to throw a stone at god it won't work because he will know the stone is headed his way and he will jump out of the way just in time and then make it rain fire on you
406 days ago | Side: God is great
actually it won't work because, matter does not apply to non-matter......,.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
you can talk in riddles all you want but god knows what you're doing and he won't like it
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Hey fuck you buddy, I like debateleader, although he is wrong in his claim, as I am made of matter.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
just so you know, saying the word fuck is a sin and god would never say fuck so you are not god. God might use frack you or f you but never fuck you
406 days ago | Side: God is great
If God cannot swear, he is not all powerful. Therefore, he is not a God.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
He can swear he just chooses not to, unless you're an atheist then he might cuss you out but that is his choice
406 days ago | Side: God is great
He can swear he just chooses not to, unless you're an atheist then he might cuss you out but that is his choice In what universe does this make any sense? From where are you getting this nonsense?
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Other universes have different laws of physics and therefore possibly different logic.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Yea, it's a sin for your false God. It's damn lucky he isn't God, and I am then. I don't give a shit about swearing, or shagging, or sodomy, or your diet, or how much you cut off the end of your dick (I've heard it causes tremendous chafing), or goats, or any other trivial thing. I'm cool wi' dat.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
God might use frack you or f you You are an idiot. Just sayin'.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
if i'm an idiot so be it that was gods intention for me. Have you ever heard the voice of god?
406 days ago | Side: God is great
No, I said Srom would try to throw a stone at his false god. He could never hit me, I live quite some distance from him.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
my god is far more powerful than srom's god because srom said his god will not send atheists to hell, this is a wimpy god if you ask me. Mine will send them all to hell and laugh about it as they burn.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Who cares? They're both false. And I'm more powerful than all of them. I can open a beer bottle with my teeth. Beeyotch.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
my god is so powerful that he doesn't even need to use his teeth... he has hundreds of naked minions that look exactly like Megan Fox and they open his beers for him. Snap!
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Umm we have the same God. I don't know why you say that my God is wimpy. It is true that God doesn't send people to hell its the person themselves who go to hell because they choose to not believe in God or serve Him. So they set themselves up for hell. Also you don't know if they are going to go to hell. Some of the atheists that are on the site could be a Christian and change there ways.
405 days ago | Side: God is great
I'd ignore RandomDude, he doesn't make sense and simply looks to be offensive and annoying. And by wimpy, I think he means 'moral, as the Christian God is supposed to be moral, kind, and gentle. RD's just being an asshole, basically.
404 days ago | Side: God is great
OK, which direction do I pray to? Big Ben or The Kaaba..........................
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Nah, I don't need worshiping, I think it's funnier not to tell people how to avoid hell, so they conjure up their own weird ways, like goat sacrifice.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Yes I am... now get... naked.. .
406 days ago | Side: God is great
God wants us all to be naked because that is the way he made us.
406 days ago | Side: God is great
No, no, you can keep your clothes on... but as for Megan Fox, I'd prefer if she went "au naturel".
406 days ago | Side: God is great
god made megan fox beautiful so we could enjoy her, it is a sin for her to wear clothes because that goes against what god wanted
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Exactly, it goes against what I want, I'm glad you see things my way. It's a shame Megan Fox's boyfriend doesn't see things that way.
406 days ago | Side: God is great
I thought the christian God promotes modesty in women.............................
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
I don't know about all that, I think he wants them to be naked and frolic and have fun
406 days ago | Side: God is great
If God doesn't like the way someone looks naked...isn't that kind of his own fault?
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
No, because he made you look good when you were born, it is your fault that you now look like a fat ass slob
406 days ago | Side: God is great
If God designed how your body works, if he chose the environment into which you'd be born, and if he knew whether or not you'd have the will power or education to be healthy, it's on him if you get fat. You can't say God is an all-powerful and all-knowing creator without giving responsibility for everything. Also, how do you even know ChuckHades is fat? Isn't it kind of egotistical to pretend you know what God's thinking when he looks at someone?
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
I never said ChuckHades is fat? what are you talking about? you're a zombee who is dead and eats brains and you probably worship a goat.
405 days ago | Side: God is great
Okay, I get it. Well you had me going for a few minutes so good job.
404 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Replace the word "God" with "Srom"... See what I did?
406 days ago | Side: God is great
why does everyone think srom is so great, yes he is always right but he is just one of god's children.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Aren't I one of God's children?
406 days ago | Side: God is great
He means he is not a begotten son...................................................
406 days ago | Side: God is great
If you believe in Jesus Christ and be a Christian then you are God's child.
406 days ago | Side: God is great
So if I went up to my dad and said "I don't believe you are my dad," he would kick me out as if I was some stranger?
406 days ago | Side: God is great
No! You are not god's child! Your avatar is evil and you worship a satanic goat!
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Noo, I don't worship the Satanic goat, I place it in a Sigil of Baphemet made from it's own blood, surrounded by candles in a dark room. And then I chant towards the sigil with words from The Dark Sacrament, until I contact the devil and tell him to grant me success in life for the cost of a piece of my soul, (Only a piece.) Of course it takes off years from my life, but it is well worth it. ;D Want me to contact the devil for you? He's very nice these days.
406 days ago | Side: God is great
yes, if you can contact the devil then I want you to contact him and tell him to open an account so we can all debate him
406 days ago | Side: God is great
If you want to get his attention, please repeat these words after me, (Reading them in your mind is enough,): Vsetholis Khast szel behkthemet Daedrus. Zhuun inaeldrin'vsetholis khalkoroth, Ghelgath uul Tsalokath behkthemet hlial yjlmoth varvius Drem. I know it's kinda odd to pronounce but it's the only way the devil can hear you. I pray that your house is not blessed because it may piss him off- it's kinda like trolling him. So just be weary the next time you leave your house as you might welcome him in when you return. But anyway, even if reading the dark incantation has forfeit your soul for the devil, his gaze may still be turned towards this website- even if he doesn't give a damn about it. (Which may piss him off also.)
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Everyone thinks I am so great because I talk about God a lot and if you would see some stuff I write about God you will be amazed!
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
I have read some of what you write about God. I have been amazed! I am amazed your parents/caregivers/orderlies/guards let you have access to a computer. I am amazed you harbor the impression anyone, much less everyone, thinks you are so great. I am amazed you survived being dropped on your head as an infant. I am amazed!
398 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
I have read some of what you write about God. I have been amazed! Thank You! I am amazed your parents/caregivers/orderlies/guards let you have access to a computer Yah my parents allow me to have internet access and so does my school. I am amazed you harbor the impression anyone, much less everyone, thinks you are so great Thank you. I am amazed you survived being dropped on your head as an infant I was never dropped on my head as an infant.
398 days ago | Side: God is great
Everyone thinks I am so great because I talk about God a lot Outside of yourself through your various puppet accounts, who else are you including in this?
406 days ago | Side: God is great
I don't have various puppet accounts. Like I said I only have this account. The other accouts you think I have, I have no controll over them.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Yep you are right thanks for agreeing with me .
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
You're talkin' 'bout Joe, right?
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Gods name is not joe he doesn't have a name because he is god
406 days ago | Side: God is great
"God" is a name. So is Yahweh, Jehovah, etc., etc. "He", too, can be viewed as a name. My name truly is "Liber", because that is what I choose to call myself, on here at least. If I decide to call (i.e. "name") myself "God", I am "God".
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Now I don't care about any of your ignorant opinions, wether God is real or not is a matter of opinion. i happen to be a strong believer in God, I beg my parents to let me go to church and my grandfather is a pastor. If you don't think that God exist then fine, thats your opinion. I don't judge people for their beliefs.
399 days ago | Side: God is great
"Now I don't care about any of your ignorant opinions..." begins your first sentence. "I don't judge people for their beliefs." is your last sentence. You have all the makings of a fine Christian.
398 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Wait? Can God get around the 50 character minimum? Or would he be cheating if he did and sinning himself?
406 days ago | Side: God is great
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Oh! Does that mean I have to start sucking up to you then?
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Nah, I'm not as vain as the other gods. Although you are required to give me your PIN number, purely for identification reasons.
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Okay, but what good is my PIN number if you don't have my card? Is this how things work in your universe? It doesn't sound like you've crossed all the T's and dotted all the I's yet? LOL
406 days ago | Side: God is great
I'm omnipotent, I can just create your card. Do not LOL at your creator... ROFLMAO insteads
406 days ago | Side: God is great
406 days ago | Side: God is great
God cannot cheat, that is impossible because he is god and he can do no wrong
404 days ago | Side: God is great
God is all knowing he sees everything and he is watching you right now. He is always looking over your shoulder. He watches you at night, at school, he sees EVERYTHING including this site. Was he looking over my sholder last night?! I hope he didn't get any in his eye. Good thing i wear a tin foil hat... Wouldn't want him reading my dirty thoughts.
405 days ago | Side: God is great
At least prove that he is on this site instead of saying something that people will find immediately bogus? Like one of my theories. I was born in NewYork, but i believe that because New York is connect to Canada and Canada is connect to Europe, i am European. In fact, i am EVERYTHING. That is one of my theories but i am not going to say it to everybody unless i gave it some intellectual thought. To boil down my theory: If you touch a wall, you are part of a wall. Weird huh. I also believe all matter can think...walls, trees, the ground. But that is just a belief. I have to prove it. So prove that God is on this site plz. :)
404 days ago | Side: God is great
I have to prove nothing to you, believe or go to hell the choice is your own unless god simply doesn't like you then you're screwed no matter what and from what I'm hearing lately, he's been pretty pissed off
404 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
The burden of proof tends to lie with the one making outrageous claims, which you are.
402 days ago | Side: God is great
Incorrect. I don't need to prove anything because I simply don't give a shit who believes my "outrageous" claim. In fact, the less who believe it, the fewer that go to Heaven and the more room for me. Enjoy Hell sir!
402 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Incorrect. I don't need to prove anything because I simply don't give a shit who believes my "outrageous" claim. Actually he's quite right, it doesn't matter if you care or not. When one makes a positive affirmation (a claim in the existence of something for example) it is assumed that there is a legitimate and logical reason why that person believes so. It is then up to that person to support their belief whether it be to an outside audience or even to themselves. The way this is done is through experimentation to find demonstrable and falsifiable evidence. If no supporting evidence is shown, then the belief in the truth value of the claim is to be suspended until it is shown. The problem we see with the indoctrinated ‘belief in God’ is that belief precedes evidence instead of evidence preceding belief. It’s completely ignorant as far as logical deductive reasoning is the matter. In fact, the less who believe it, the fewer that go to Heaven and the more room for me. Enjoy Hell sir! That's very... um... Christian of you.
402 days ago | Side: God is great
I don't think you would be spewing the contents of your mind all over this site if you didn't give a shit about what people believe. And if you make outrageous claims and refuse to back them up, expect mockery, expect ridicule, and don't expect anyone to take your views seriously. In fact, if you don't care what others think and you're not prepared to back up anything you say with any sort of evidence, what the hell are you doing on a debate site? Everything you're doing strikes me as a good way to loose respect and make enemies, both for yourself and for whatever crackpot religion you're backing.
400 days ago | Side: God is great
That is where you are wrong. You are on a debate site. You need to prove your evidence. My logic tells me that you don't have proof to your evidence. That is the main reason why you stated: "i have to prove nothing to you." lol but that is just my logic of you. ^_^ You know what i find funny is what you stated "i have to prove nothing to you." Jesus never said that to his followers. He proved the power of God many times, assuming that the Bible is factual. And don't be foolish. You know that there are stubborn people on here that won't believe in God. I don't blame them because they need to see proof.
399 days ago | Side: God is great
"That is where you are wrong. You are on a debate site. You need to prove your evidence." No, you do not have to "prove your evidence", as a debater one has to "argue their assertions". If one is asserting there is no evidence of God, it is up to those who disagree with them to come up with evidence. That's logic. And qualifying any statement with a neutral assumption is a non-statement. Do YOU assume the Bible to be factual?
398 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
That is where you are wrong. You are on a debate site. You need to prove your evidence. Bullshit! Where does it say I have to do anything? My logic tells me that you don't have proof to your evidence. Prove it! That is the main reason why you stated: "i have to prove nothing to you." lol but that is just my logic of you. ^_^ What are you? 12? You know what i find funny is what you stated "i have to prove nothing to you." Jesus never said that to his followers. He proved the power of God many times, assuming that the Bible is factual. Your god proved nothing! He is weak! And don't be foolish. Don't tell me how to be! You know that there are stubborn people on here that won't believe in God. Good! More room for me in Heaven!!!
398 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
did you see a seed become a tree the rain falling from the sky the light of the moon the heart and lungs put all the best minds through out the entire mankind and you cant make a flea this is the power of the all mighty
395 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Of course because he sees everything including our thoughts!
395 days ago | Side: God is great
god is in everyone and you are writing this so yes and god sees all
393 days ago | Side: God is great
You are quite right! GOD always sees everyone and everything everywhere. Every thing in the world is his creation. We are also creations of GOD. If we will love and pray him, he will also love us. He accounts all our actions and it does not matter good actions or bad. It is very important that we are responsible for each our action. Nobody is perfect. We all make mistakes. We should know that GOD has enormous kindness. I wish all of you forgiveness of GOD and his big kindness.
389 days ago | Side: God is great
I guess I wouldnt say hes ON CreateDebate , but he IS watching ....because he is pretty much everywhere lol
384 days ago | Side: God is great
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Ah, whilst millions of children die of starvation each year, innocents are murdered in masses, torture and rape occur daily and even hourly, god is busy reading this, making notes and preparing a place in hell for me... Your god is a dick.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
he can be a dick if he has to be to deal with people like you and yes he reads all of this but i doubt he takes notes, i'm sure he has someone to do that for him like a secretary or something
406 days ago | Side: God is great
he can be a dick if he has to be to deal with people like you Ad hominem. And an omnibenevolent God would not be aloud to bear grudges- only evil humans can. And don't forget the children he's left suffering, and starving. Imagine feeling hungry, but then times it by 1000 and make it so painful it actually kills you- that's what children in Africa are going through- and that is what God is ignoring even though he is omnipotent. (Which means that he can actually do anything with infinite power.)
405 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
God had made this world perfect, and sent down revelations to guide man to the straight path to steer this life perfectly then man started to change gods word to meet man's cheap purposes and that made man to go astray.God sent more revelations and prophets to correct people and guide them again to he straight path (not to have the excuse of not being informed ) but man kept not following them, the world consequently began to suffer, not beacause of God, but because of man. then stop accusing God with such accusations which in fact you have to be accused of
394 days ago | Side: God is great
God had made this world perfect, and sent down revelations to guide man to the straight path to steer this life perfectly then man started to change gods word to meet man's cheap purposes and that made man to go astray.God sent more revelations and prophets to correct people and guide them again to he straight path (not to have the excuse of not being informed ) but man kept not following them, the world consequently began to suffer, not beacause of God, but because of man. then stop accusing God with such accusations which in fact you have to be accused of.
394 days ago | Side: God is great
God had made this world perfect, and sent down revelations to guide man to the straight path to steer this life perfectly then man started to change gods word to meet man's cheap purposes and that made man to go astray.God sent more revelations and prophets to correct people and guide them again to he straight path (not to have the excuse of not being informed ) but man kept not following them, the world consequently began to suffer, not beacause of God, but because of man. then stop accusing God with such accusations which in fact you have to be accused of.
395 days ago | Side: God is great
God must of done a crappy job. If you believe in all these "miracles" and "interventions" such as placing images of Jesus/Mary on toast and "curing" diseases, (while ignoring amputees,) why wouldn't he turn his gaze onto the starving children in the world? From what I am seeing, God has been deficient, despite being infinite everything. And one more thing, why does God love murdering children to protect "honor" in Leviticus 20:9? God is a filicidal maniac.
394 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
sure lots of people die every day but that is god helping us to prevent over population so we wont kill our own race to survive and part of it is punishing us for the death of his son jesus
405 days ago | Side: God is great
and part of it is punishing us for the death of his son jesus Was he not sent to be killed?
405 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Right, wasn't that God arranging a sacrifice to himself, as forgiveness for Man having been created sinful by Him?
398 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
THIS IS SPAARRTTAAAAAA Hehehe, just a mini celebration for my 300 debate points...
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
300 points? Pshht!!! Stop pretending we all know how many points you really want, you want 666 points to please your evil goat god, fine we'll see just where that gets you in life. Good luck.
405 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
I know what 69 means and I embrace it! That is god's form of contraception.
405 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
XD... I don't think God is fond of two males giving head jobs at the same time. I would like to prefer a female, so no thank you...
405 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Well, I didn't click your link so assumed you were talking about a male and a female. Male on male action is of course a sin and the male gays will go to hell and be forced to have sex with females for all eternity.
405 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Wait, so if I just frolic with a bloke for one night, I get to have sex with females for all eternity? I'll fucking take that offer. You Christians really struggle to make hell sound scary.
405 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
No! That won't work because god will know you are trying to punk him! There are no loop holes when it comes to dealing with god! (That last part is meant to be read as if it's being said in a very low, booming voice)
405 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
I'm not trying to "punk him", I'm accepting your offer. Now to find a man...
404 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Okay but if it doesn't work don't tell him I suggested you try that... I'm already in some trouble right now
404 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
And you will be forced not to have sex at all in heaven, as there is no need for reproduction so it would all be lust- which is forbidden.
405 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Okay, I can see why sites like these would seed the community with activity-trolls. At what point do we acknowledge them and ask for a more clever version? At some point, we get bored, and then are potentially somebody else's user base. Get rid of RandomDude and bring us a more nuanced player-character...he's transparent and sophomoric. Hell, there's enough of that already.
399 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Why must god sent atheists to hell? Is he that intolerable to them? God accepts all religions and beliefs by the way they are, God is not some extremist who condemns all other opinions; thats a tyrant.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Even if God did exist, why would he have any remotely interest in the discussion on CD, he is supposed to be safeguarding the universe.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
God doesn't send athiests to hell. It is the person that send themselves to hell because choose to be athiest. God accepts all religions and stuff because he gave us free will. If he didn't give free will then we would be God's puppets.
406 days ago | Side: God is great
God gave us Free Will, but, will torture us in a lake of fire for all eternity for exercising it in a way that displeases Him. That sounds to me like "discount" or "bargain" Will, don't you think? Something that had to be put on sale or nobody would buy it in the first place? Or, maybe, it's a 2-for-1 Special where God throws in Will for free when you buy Vicarious Redemption? Seriously, the idea that evidence of God's love is manifest in His gift of Free Will is a farce. You are proposing that we accept as fact God loves us so much that he presents us the opportunity to choose eternal torture in a lake of fire as the price for living a moral life exclusive of our acknowledgement of His existence? How is that love? If your child denied you and went off to Africa to feed the hungry, would you be evidencing love by waiting for him to come home and then locking him in an acid sauna?
399 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
That is free will. We aren't God puppets where we have to be forced to believe in Him. Its the person's choice whether they believe in God or not. But a lot of people choose to be seperate from God and they choose there own way and thats the problem. Its not God who sends them to hell. Its the person because they choose there own path.
399 days ago | Side: God is great
Yes, you have described free will. You have not, however, related it to any defensible manifestation of God's love. So far, you've posited a perfect being, created man imperfect, and subjects them to eternal torture for failing to overcome their inherited nature; a nature imposed on them by the perfect being. How is that, in any way, an example of love?
399 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Well He loved us first before we loved Him. John 3:16 says that God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son that how ever believe in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Actually no one is perfect. Everyone has sinned. Romans 3:23 says All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
399 days ago | Side: God is great
Quoting scripture just asserts your position, it does nothing to argue it. So, God arranged a blood sacrifice, to himself, as a condition of forgiveness of His creation for not believing in Him. And still, the issue at hand is Man being eternally tortured for not believing. The execution of Jesus of Nazareth hasn't materially changed the deal God is presenting us. We still have to believe in order to escape eternal torture. So, where's the love? And I suspect you mis-read, the only "person" I referred to as perfect is the God-person.
399 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
"Everyone thinks I am so great because I talk about God a lot and if you would see some stuff I write about God you will be amazed!" Why don't you amaze us with an answer to my question?
398 days ago | Side: God is great
While you have yet to answer my question (if you're going to be an effective apologist, you'd better get that one down at least) perhaps you can answer this one: If one lives a moral life in all ways, without believing in God, will they avoid eternal torture?
396 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
If one lives a moral life in all ways, without believing in God, will they avoid eternal torture? Well they only way to avoid eternal torture is to believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. You only can get to heaven by believing in Jesus Christ. But it is a narrow road to get to heaven. Its very hard and only few find that path and actually go there.
396 days ago | Side: God is great
"Well they only way to avoid eternal torture is to believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior" So, that's the deal you believe evidences love? Well, actually, let's forget the love part; it's so far down the list of why what you describe is morally wrong it's almost inconsequential. Let's get this right: God creates Man. Man makes one mistake (yielding to the desire for knowledge, BTW). God curses Man and as a result the entire race is henceforth created in sin. We are thereafter born, by God's design, in sin. As a result of this designed defect, God arranges a blood sacrifice to Himself, to save us from the nature He created us with...but wait, there's nothing in all of this that concerns sin! It is rather, as a condition of avoiding eternal torture, that we acknowledge the sacrifice to Himself God arranged and believe it occurred the way He said it did. Sin's got nothin' to do with it? Where in this whole arrangement does sin come into it?
396 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Well the reason why God said to take a lamb and sacrifice it was because to symbolize that, the lamb was representing Jesus that He died for us because we have sinned. But now we don't use sacrifices now because Jesus already came down and died on the cross for our sins and rose again. And God abolished those past laws. So now you must believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, do His will and live a life according to what the Bible says and teaches us.
396 days ago | Side: God is great
"Well the reason why God said to take a lamb and sacrifice it was because to symbolize that, the lamb was representing Jesus that He died for us because we have sinned." I think you're tying to say that Jesus was representing the Lamb. And I understand the ontological rationale. But your conclusion "So now you must believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, do His will and live a life according to what the Bible says and teaches us." Still ignores my point. As you make clear, without giving Jesus your oath of acknowledgement, you are to be tortured forever. All the rest is window dressing to the issue at hand. All the good works one could do, all the sacrifice, selflessness and sincere dedication to the principles of Jesus' message means nothing. You will be boiled in a lake of fire for eternity for withholding your fealty. If God is love, and he's willing to create you only so he can torture you if you fail to thank him for creating you in the first place, how is that love? Before I'm tempted to conclude the whole thing stinks like what it is...a bronze age take on the master-servant relationship between Gods and Men...you'll have to answer that one. Where's the love?
396 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Why? What reason should we symbolize? Why couldn't they suggest a less "occultic" way of symbolism instead of murdering a young, helpless animal back then? It's just got Occult written all over it... And God abolished those past laws. He still made them in the first place... So now you must believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, do His will and live a life according to what the Bible says and teaches us. No thank you. He murders children. >_>
396 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
How do we have free will? Theoretically god created us, our personality, deposition, behavior, and beliefs, as well as everything we interact with that could alter those beliefs, and every situation where your morality is called into question. Except, he knows what you're going to choose before you choose it. Of course he does. He created you and everything else. Could I do something that god doesn't expect me to do? Could i surprise him with my behavior? Could i change the way he planned something to take place? Yes? Then he's not all powerful or all knowing. No? No free will. Also i think it says something about your religion that the wager of eternal torment has absolutely nothing to do with being a good person - it has to do with religion, which is often far from the same thing. You could be the most upstanding citizen in the world but if you don't believe in some ancient tribal desert dogma, prepare to be tortured, forever. ...what a lunatic.
402 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
While I entirely agree, the Abrahamic god-construct is sheer lunacy on so many levels, I think omniscience and predestination are two different things. Your argument seems to me to assert if God knows what you're going to do before you do it, you have no free will. This, I think, confuses two different conditions. The first being God's supposed timeless all-knowing which assumes He knows how our will is going to be freely exercised. The second is how we exercise it. One has no bearing on the other. Unless you're arguing God created us and essentially programmed us to choose a particular course, then yes that shoots the whole "free" part of free will right out of the water.
399 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
I'm arguing both. That he is also our creator and also created everything that might alter our vanilla personalities and timelessly all-knowing that eliminates free will. I think taking out any one part of the argument severely weakens it, and i haven't really considered it any other way because if god doesn't meet the standards set in the argument, he isn't god. Not the one most people here stick up for, anyways.
399 days ago | Side: God is great
While I deeply sympathize with what I interpret as your visceral compulsion on the matter, I can't ultimately philosophically separate the two states. I think we have to acknowledge a creator can create a fire-and-forget product. That product being one that is programmed to make unpredictable decisions exclusive of the bias of the creator. Man can create such a product in the form of computer language. If this is true, we have to acknowledge a causal dissonance between the two states. If we acknowledge this, we have to say God can create something, and KNOW what it's going to do WITHOUT influencing the outcome. "God" doesn't make sense in so many ways...this is just not one of them.
399 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Hm... do you believe god could make a rock so heavy he couldnt lift it? Your if/than line of reasoning makes sense, and it fits in perfectly with your computer language example, but reason and sense dont apply in the usual ways when were talking about magic. God knows us on a much more intimate and complete level than a programmer knows a computer language, and while a language can appear unpredictable to its programmer, we are not unpredictable to god. Im also not saying god is controlling or even influencing us unduly. I dont see my lack of free will as, say, a remote control robot lacks free will, but rather a very complex AI robot that appears to have free will but is really responding to stimuli exactly as it was programmed as it plods along its preordained course. To hell, in my case.
399 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Your assertions would suggest, as I understand it, a particular construct of a Theistic deity. This precludes the possibility of a prime mover who, once the ball got rolling, moved on to other things. Such a Deistic model is no less relevant to the discussion at hand...wait, no, but I'm wrong. While it may be relevant to most ontological arguments of this sort, I'm embarrassed to note this particular debate is specific in its Theistic requirements. Hah, the whole premise revolves around whether God is "watching you"! My apologies for not paying attention! Now, having eaten crow (tasty...not!), I'm still of the position one can defend the Theistic model of a creator-god and still not admit He compels exercise of 'will' such it cannot be regarded as 'free'. You are making assertions which refine the definition of divine intent outside of defensible boundaries. A God as described by many Theists can create a being capable of exercising free will. To deny that premise proffers an easily defensible claim to Theists that your comprehension of their position is biased, and thus undermines the greater point.
399 days ago | Side: God is great
Maybe your god doesn't send atheists to hell but mine sure does! He hates them with a passion and wants them to burn for their sins!
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Uhh... why are you disputing yourself? If you were a fictional character, you'd be Gollum.
406 days ago | Side: God is great
No thats not true, i am a random dude because thats what god wanted me to be
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
That's why I put if in my statement. Of course you're a random dude, I created you from macaroni and glitter.
406 days ago | Side: God is great
He meant that Atheists send their selves to hell for choosing to be Atheist. It's different wording- but it means the same thing.
406 days ago | Side: God is great
don't try to use your satanic logic on me, it won't work because I don't worship goats of any kind! Goats are the creation of the devil and they were sent here to steal our souls
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Goats are the creation of the devil and they were sent here to steal our souls This must be a joke.
405 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Well, get a pet goat if you want to but I'm staying the hell away from them! Evil creatures!
405 days ago | Side: God is great
You seriously think a guy who spends his free time thinking up new species of pigeons and parrots gives a fleeting-fuck about some bigot ridden debate site? Tsk tsk.
404 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
If a god who created the whole of the known universe and beyond was also known to lay down the law about pork to some primitive savages on planet Earth, it seems plausible.
397 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
God only exists in your imagination. However, if God is the god of the ancient Middle Eastern desert, i think it goes without saying that he wouldn't have to read this website to determine whether he plans on torturing you for all eternity. If an all powerful, all knowing creator of everything in existence exists, then free will doesn't. God knew an infinite amount of time before I even existed that he was planning on sending me to hell for behaving the way he would create me to behave. But god only exists in the mind. I suppose that your version of god might lurk random debate sites, looking for atheists to root out and torture, but he only does so to the same extent that a little girl has a conversation with her stuffed teddy bear over feigned sips of tea. To put it plainly, imaginary friends tend to act more or less like you want them to. The fact that your imaginary friend is a member on CreateDebate.org doesn't make it so.
403 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
what's god doing on createdebate anyway? Looking for people who mock him?
396 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
If Santa was on createdebate I would be arguing with him about the exploitation of his elves! wait...
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
if santa really is exploiting elves (and i'm not saying he is) then god will send him to hell
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
If he was really on CreateDebate wouldnt he have to be super bored,plus wouldnt he have already solved all the crimes,situtations,and starvation,etc before he would even do something like this!
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
crimes, situations and starvation will always exist, it is god's way of testing us
406 days ago | Side: God is great
Atheists send themselves to hell. God is good and forgiving. Only if you accept him.
406 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
"God is good and forgiving. Only if you accept him." How does this attempt at rationale fail to alert even the most pious of believers? This asks us to accept the premise that a perfect being defines love as entirely conditional. Worse still, the primary condition of this love is an unquestioned acceptance of something for which not an iota of evidence is provided. How can such a condition, submitted by a perfect being, be a representation of anything but a perversion of love?
399 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
If I told you that I had a magic flying sandwich and gave you little evidence of it's existence except for a book that says that a group of people saw it, would you believe the magical sandwich existed?
406 days ago | Side: God is great
First I will need to know a few things about this sandwich, what kind of a sandwich is it?
405 days ago | Side: God is great
It is a magic peanutbutter-jelly sandwich. And the book says that the magic sandwich is infinitely nice.
405 days ago | Side: God is great
Maybe your wimpy god is too much of a wimp to send atheists to hell himself but mine will! He will string them up by their toe nails and let them slide down a 5 mile razor blade straight to hell to burn for their atheism!
405 days ago | Side: God is great
he is not are you stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
405 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
he is watching you right now and not pleased with your "stupid" comment... strike one buddy! Keep it up and you'll be joining the majority of the users on this site in hell.
405 days ago | Side: God is great
So this is really more about you deciding FOR god what should offend and displease him, not letting him decide for himself, and, indeed, dealing with it himself. Arrogance.
402 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
I decide nothing FOR God, we have an understanding and I know what he wants. Your assumption of who my God is and how he works is arrogance on your part.
401 days ago | Side: God is great
I assume your god lives in your imagination. Past that I'm not assuming anything, only stating that it seems like you're a self-appointed intermediary. I don't really have to assume how your god works if you're sitting there telling everyone exactly how god works, i can just look at you puffing up your chest and see it for what it is.
400 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Your insults are meaningless and the result of an empty, pathetic life.
400 days ago | Side: God is great
God can not be on createdebate because he does not exsist.
402 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
"God can not be on createdebate because he does not exsist." Yep, Cuaroc got it on the first try.
398 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
Have fun in hell when you die so good luck you best repent foe
393 days ago | Side: God is great
Have fun in hell when you die so good luck you best repent foe how can one go to hell when it does not exsist?
387 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
god is all around us yes, but on createdebate get real, why on earth would he want to be on here for, he has got more important things to be going on with.
396 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
But, I thought God was supposed to be omniscient? If He knows all the hairs on my head, and sees everything under the heavens, how is He absent from CreateDebate?
396 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
If the God in question is the Theist's God, then he is omniscient and sees everything under the heavens, including CreateDebate. If the God in question is the Deist's God, then He probably has better things to do. If the God in question is the Rationalist's view of God, this all makes for entertaining reading.
396 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
entertaining reading? why should we talk about God so that when you do not really know anything about it? Kidding about how he has more important things it's not seriously. I am sure that you believe everyone and u know that he sees and hears us. I am also confident that when you are at a dead end you ask him "what? Why? What's next?" think about the way your thoughts, he also reads them
389 days ago | Side: God is great
Ah yes, the Divine Dictator vision of God. He sees and hears us (Orwellian Dystopia!) He reads my thoughts (thought police!). I just go to Him for instructions (Central Government!)...No thanks!
384 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
If you consider god as the government, then it might be watching.
377 days ago | Side: God isn't on createdebate
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