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 God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why? (80)

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God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?

i have my own views on this and i have posted a few arguments. but i'd like to hear more opinions. 

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He tests you so that when you fail him and his angels have something to laugh at.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
3 points

God's tests are not for Him to determine where we are in faith or in life. His tests are for us to determine where we are in life and to realize humanities role in life, through the Gospel and Christ, along with God's characteristics: we are humbled, grown in faith, etc. through God's tests. Refer to Psalm 107

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
2 points

God's tests are not for Him to determine where we are in faith or in life. His tests are for us to determine where we are in life and to realize humanities role in life

I can agree with this ~

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
Cartman(6682) Disputed
2 points

That doesn't make sense if you believe that God has already decided if we will be part of the elect or the non-elect. It is not a test if He already knows the answer. It doesn't matter if we are the ones who gain from it, we can't do anything other than what He has already determined. You like your cult book are full of contradiction.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
lolzors93(3172) Disputed
2 points

Did you even read what I wrote? I said the following: "God's tests are not for Him to determine where we are in faith or in life. His tests are for us to determine where we are in life and to realize humanities role in life, through the Gospel and Christ, along with God's characteristics: we are humbled, grown in faith, etc. through God's tests. Refer to Psalm 107"

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?

He likes trolling us. He's worse than me ;)

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
2 points

Assuming that God actually tests us.....Because god gets bored to. :)

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
2 points

that is a good way of putting it.

God is pretty mean that way then. :O

His brain probably functions this way.

oh look they're having fun on createdebate! let me give andy some issues to deal with now.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
2 points

God tests Christians because we go through trials and tribulations every single day. He tests us by our faith and how we react to certain things. Being a Christian isn't an easy task. Its hard because you have people out there who insult, persecute, and dislike us Christians for what we believe. So we must put up with this because God was the first one to undergo this when He came down from earth in human flesh. So if Christ had tests as well on this earth then as Christians we are going to be test a lot more for our faith in Christ since we live in an anti-religious culture that is slowly growing.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
pakicetus(1277) Disputed
3 points

we live in an anti-religious culture that is slowly growing

While secularism and religious neutrality is growing, anti-religion-ism is still a minority. BTW: http://blog.beliefnet.com/religion101/files/2012/09/U.S.-pie1.jpg

It's just plain silly to think you are oppressed when you make up more than 70% of the population in a democratic nation

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
2 points

He is talking about in other countries. Christians are put through a lot in other places. I am not sure if they actually belong in those places, but that's a different question.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
Cartman(6682) Disputed
2 points

Yeah, being insulted is so terrible. Imagine being a non Christian and tied to pole and burned to death for not believing. That would be worse, right?

we live in an anti-religious culture that is slowly growing

You guys aren't embracing reality and losing followers.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
Srom(11526) Disputed
2 points

Yeah, being insulted is so terrible. Imagine being a non Christian and tied to pole and burned to death for not believing. That would be worse, right?

Christians are suffering more then non-believers and the persecution is brutal in other countries.

You guys aren't embracing reality and losing followers.

When we are losing followers then that is fulfilling a prophecy because in the last days people will abandon the faith.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
Nebeling(1087) Disputed
2 points

So essentially Christianity implies that you need to keep faith despite obvious paradoxes, contradictions, etc. Sounds kind of Orwellian don't you think?

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
2 points

So that WE can know our strengths. think about it. God does not need to learn, but we do.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
1 point

this has been my opinion so far. so we know our strengths and learn how to overcome them for the bigger problem in the future.

but then the suicide issue comes up. :/ which gets me blank :/

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
2 points

Mental illnesses do exist. I have been suicidal before but I sucked it up buttercup and got help. I do not judge those who choose suicide though because I would if life got bad enough.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
2 points

I do not believe God tests us. I believe God allows us to choose a path we must take once we are given a human form. We choose the path based on learning things we need or desire in order to "grow". So, God isn't testing us...we are testing ourselves!

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
2 points

IF there is a God, he's supposed to be perfect and he created this world, IMPERFECT. WHY!? in the first place.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
1 point

So we can know that we can get through it. For example when Abraham was going to sacrifice his son and he trusted God that he son would be resurrected. God knew exactly what Abraham would do. So when Abraham was about to kill his son God stopped him and said "Now I know that you trust me (or love me I dont exactly remember the word for it)". This wasn't for God's sake but for Abraham's because it strengthened his faith. If God didn't test you what would you truly know about him?

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
Cartman(6682) Disputed
5 points

What kind of sick degenerate tells you to kill your kid so that He can seem like the good guy when He stops you? That's insane.

It will be a little harder for you to ban me now.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
Dub4Laura(116) Disputed
4 points

What kind of sick degenerate tells you to kill your kid so that He can seem like the good guy when He stops you?

It was a test of faith. His son was never going to be sacrificed. The point was to make Abraham strengthen his faith in his heart. This wasn't for God. It was for Abraham You know what forget it. You always have to be ignorant when it comes to religion. It is a testament of faith.

It will be a little harder for you to ban me now

That is not of my concern. You couldn't post anything on topic. All you do is insult Christianity and that is it. You ignore people points and continue to post belligerent, ignorant, duncical, megalomaniacal things without even taking anything into consideration.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
trumpet_guy(478) Clarified
2 points

He didn't do it to look like a good guy. He did it to test Abraham's faith and also foreshadow when God would ACTUALLY sacrifice his own son.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
Intangible(4990) Clarified
2 points

"Make the voices stop!"

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
2 points

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1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
Intangible(4990) Disputed
2 points

So basically

God trust me I'll resurrect your son

Abraham Ok Ima doin' it!

God Stop! that is enough. you trusted me

Abraham Oh thank you god my faith holds true to you!

Why didn't god just let Abraham sacrifice his son and then resurrect him? Which was how god was suppose to gain Abraham's trust anyway?

His son dies then comes back to life. BOOM instant faith

He was only tricking him by saying he would do this if Abraham did that, but he didn't even allow it to happen.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
Dub4Laura(116) Disputed
2 points

So basically

God trust me I'll resurrect your son

Abraham Ok Ima doin' it!

God Stop! that is enough. you trusted me

Abraham Oh thank you god my faith holds true to you!

No. Abraham was convinced God would resurect his son. He had an enourmous amount of faith in God.

Why didn't god just let Abraham sacrifice his son and then resurrect him? Which was how god was suppose to gain Abraham's trust anyway?

If he killed his son and God resurrected him his faith would remain the same for his expectations would be met and not exceeded. Also if he killed his son it would be a sign of God's power not trust. So God stopped him and let Abraham keep his son, which Abraham was not expecting, and this strengthened his faith, especially when God told him that he knows that Abraham is a strong believer. It was above Abrahams expectations and thus srengthened his faith.

His son dies then comes back to life. BOOM instant faith

He was only tricking him by saying he would do this if Abraham did that, but he didn't even allow it to happen.

Not at all. It would be a trick if God let Abraham kill his son and never revived him. However, this did not occur. God let Abraham keep his son intact and confirmed his faith for him making him believe with a stronger heart.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?

And I think that since God knows everything and knows what's going to happen.

When he created. He constructed the environment and the way peoples brains works so that eventually these test would come to them anyway. But then again he would know those who would follow him and those who wouldn't. So testing us would be irrelevant

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?
2 points

SO in reality we don't even have the freedom to choose since god has already chosen for us.

1 year ago | Side: God knows our Capabilities. Yet He Tests Us. Why?


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