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Happiness Is ... Being Old, Male and Republican

Americans grow happier as they age, surveys find. And a new Pew Research Center survey shows the tendency is holding up as the economy tanks.

Happiness is a complex thing. Past studies have found that happiness is partly inherited, that Republicans are happier than Democrats and that old men tend to be happier than old women.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520536,00.html?test=latestnews

Why, yes...., yes I am!

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5 points

I don't know about THAT study, but I can understand how being an older, republican male could be happier. This is why (in my opinion):

-As someone grow's older, they grow more wisdom and typically, they grow the ability to be happy with life without taking everything for granted and without bitching all the time.

-Males are probably, overall, happier than women for the reason that they're usually somewhat more stable, emotionally. They don't typically have their hormones shifting every month to the point of bitchiness, which can destroy female happiness 1 week a month (at least). Amongst the other dozen reason women tend to be more grumpy and unhappy as a sex. Men just worry less, typically and take what they can get and they have a handful of things they do to be happy.

-Being a republican means being content with traditional values and typically not always fighting for something different. If you're not fighting, and if you're content, then you're probably happy. Alas, republicans are usually religious too, and religious people are somehow, truly happier than non-religious people (although it could be act since they just pray all their sadness to God instead of the public).

Again, this was all my opinion. I'm sure there's some flaws in it. Bust them out.

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3 points

No truer definition of happiness could exist. Being an old, male, republican means you don't have to care about anyone but yourself.

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I'm happy. Especially when I meet my 50 character minimum ;)

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2 points

Well I have 2 of the 3 and I rarely go a day without smiling. A lot of my friends say I can't frown after 10am. :D I just love to smile and laugh and I even smiled the earliest out of all of my siblings. So in my specific case, this is true. As a whole, that's tough... You can't really generalize every old, male, republican as happy.

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1 point

Who the hell cares! What does it matter who is happier? Oh, it looks like Republicans are happier and I'm a Democrat so I think I'm going to switch parties! (that wasn't me saying it personally)

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3 points

1. you're using faux news again joe, which is why you sound so completely ridiculous even when you're not trying to be.

2. Dick Cheney v. Willie Nelson

hm, who do you think is happier?

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JakeJ(3255) Disputed
2 points

Well that's one example, I think the studies had more participants.

Plus it's about the average American, not famous people.

It all makes since, democrats are more for gamboling drinking smoking etc. You know, short term happiness that can potentially cause pain.

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iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
5 points

faux takes a survey, and twists the results, questions, and who they ask to fit their pre-determined notions.

you really expect the far right media mouth piece isn't going to say their home team is happier?

1. I live in LV, I promise you that just as many conservatives gamble.

2. there are no statistics for smoking or drinking broken down by party affiliation, but I'll bet that's even too.

how many tofu eating meditating palate doing dems drink and smoke? I'll bet about the same number as the far right church going cons. And the one's in the middle, there's not that much difference between in their day to day lives, so why would these things be different jake? Your assumption is based on a pre-concieved notion that is incorrect.

That said, what makes you think those things in moderation could not lead one to live a long and happy life? Your basis for believing this bogus survey is even false.

my grandparents drank their whole lives, and smoked for most of it as well, lived to their late seventies and eighties, and one is still alive and pushing ninety. They were always happy when I saw them, and 2 of them were cons, and two were dems. (and the one who is still alive is a dem, and has always been the happiest of the four, hm...)

I've said it before, but it bears repeating,

everything that comes out of faux news is twisted and incorrect, and framed in such a way as to villify even the most moderate dem.

it's a farce, and that anyone takes them seriously is really sad.

Side: What a load of crap!
ledhead818(637) Disputed
3 points

"democrats are more for gamboling drinking smoking etc."

Oh wow. You just sank to a new low. What exactly is that conclusion based upon?

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xaeon(1093) Disputed
2 points

"It all makes since, democrats are more for gamboling drinking smoking etc. "

You're masquerading your opinion as fact here. It's unfortunate that you've been taught that people who don't believe in the bible are worse people than you. That's an extremely divisive way of thinking, and only makes you look the worser person for it. Judge not lest thee be judged, perhaps?

Can you provide a single piece of evidence to back that statement up?

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2 points

That may be true, but we all know that Republicans do tons of blow. (aka cocaine)

If you can agree with this, then I'll agree with your gambling, drinking, and smoking argument for arguments sake.

You do know that moderate consumption of alcohol is actually a good health move, right?

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1 point

You should have left it at "...not famous people." :) You opened Pandora's box... haha.

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0 points

now, now Jake! LOL''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

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Willie Nelson? The pot head that got the clap from all the girls he did before? Happier than Dick?

I just make sure to reference Fox News just to get your panties in a bunch. ;)

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iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
3 points

Joe, Willie Nelson is one of the happiest people on the planet.

Just watch one interview, you wont find a person more in peace, satisfied, and grateful.

And the clap takes 2 pills and about an hour to cure dude, if one gets it from "all the girls he did before," well, that's a price most guys would be willing to pay.

Dick is miserable, he's in a wheelchair, and holding onto a fantasy world where Al Quada was based in Iraq and torture cures all the world's ills. He hates everyone, but especially gays... and he has a gay daughter! He shot his friend in the face with a shotgun. I don't believe a more miserable SOB was ever concieved as that Dick.

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jessald(1915) Disputed
1 point

The article cites it sources. It doesn't exaggerate. Everything in it is based on a credible survey.

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Raises hand! Willie Nelson!!!!! Joe, happiness is growing old with few regrets whether or not you meet your 50 word minimum.

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What regrets could I possibly have when my biggest worry is meeting my 50 character minimum ;)

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1 point

lol Funny topic. Actually there are different degrees of happiness so in what area of happiness do you speak?

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I think that most conservatives are happy because they love to tweak the liberals and watch them get all animated. Like when Carrie Prejean tweaked Perez Hilton and he became all unglued and called her a "dumb bitch." That was classic ;)

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1 point

It's not news that Fox has a republican bias. Considering the preposterous allegations, one can conclude that the results were manipulated in order to give the Republican party some favorable light: If the news source flaunts happiness, something that human beings tend to want, and then connects it to the political party it favors, some people will start considering the pro's the party has to offer... maybe even change their political affiliations.

Why appeal to males? We live in a male dominated society. Whether we like it or not, the truth remains that there is no gender equality. Many women would be willing to vote as their husbands do, many women would be willing to vote as their fathers and brothers do. Appealing to men is more effective than appealing to women when it comes to politics, because a male voter can more easily "run the show."

Happiness,. however, comes with a feeling of fulfillment and/or prosperity and, contrary to popular belief, cannot be bought or bargained. The article you posted, considering the source, would not have said that a woman, a child, an immigrant, someone with low income or (much less) a democrat is more likely to be happy.

That an older person is more likely to be happy than an angst ridden teenager, is true. However, sex and political party have nothing to do with it.

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1 point

Well really all you need to do is look at the source in which it was heard from, FOX

With that said, this has about as much truth as your do rich people have better sex debate. The answer: A) hell no F that bs.

Happiness is being with the person you love, being with the person that can make you walk away from everything you love to do and not miss it. To never be alone again. To never have to worry about the IRS, being in debt, being in a world that could end as humans know it in the blink of an eye. To have no worries.

To have no worries is true happiness.

Being old can be a form of happiness, sure. It can also be a form of living hell. What if your in a hospital bed for the rest of your old, 'happy', republican life? Maybe in pain?

Being young can be a form of happiness, sure. The list can go on and on. Your happy if your happy. Hell some people can be happy with the shittiest environments. The only time most people are truly happy is when their brains haven't fully developed and they are little babies. They do not know it, but that is the happiest time you could ever imagine.

A baby has no worries, happiness is ... a baby.

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Bah. What nonsense. If perhaps "happiness" was replaced with "contentment," I may buy it. But I don't measure happiness as contentment. I am not happy when I'm content. I need to be stimulated, excited, engaged, and being old and Republican doesn't really seem to suit that very well.

Side: What a load of crap!