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Debate Score:11
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Has Obamacare forced an increase in part-time work?

Have you been hearing that Obamacare has forced a shift to part-time work?
Do you believe it is true?

(Note: The employer mandate is not yet enforced, so we will have to judge its impact when it happens. This is about its impact to date.)

Yes

Side Score: 4
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No

Side Score: 7

ABSOLUTELY YES....... ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. It is already happening.

Side: Yes
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Where is your evidence, exactly? I would love to see a citation.

Side: No
JustIgnoreMe(4290) Clarified
1 point

I am kinda glad you think so. That gives us an opportunity to find out why.

Why do you think you believe this to be true?

Do you remember where you heard it?

Also, do you think that the numbers from BLS which show that involuntary part time work went up in 2007, 2008, and 2009 and then went down every year thereafter (Obamacare was signed in 2010) are inacccurate, not relevant, or ...?

Do you know of any statistics, studies, etc. that support your position?

Side: Yes

While some people are choosing to move to part-time work since they do not need their full time job for health-care (ref),

the number of involuntary part time employed has gone down every year (both in raw numbers and as a percentage of the workforce).

2009: 8,913,400/5.78%

2010: 8,875,100/5.77%

2011: 8,560,800/5.57%

2012: 8,122,900/5.24%

2013: 7,935,400/5.11%

2014: 7,213,700/4.63%

http://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt_moave.xlsx

Side: No
daver(1771) Clarified
1 point

Could they have fallen into the drop-out group. The ones who quit working. The SNAP enrollment is up I think for this period.

Side: Yes
JustIgnoreMe(4290) Clarified
1 point

Will try to compile some numbers for the periods involved when I get home, but this might be the place to start:

http://frac.org/reports-and-resources/snapfood-stamp-monthly-participation-data/

First glance seems to say SNAP participation fell by 845,726 from September 2013 to September 2014.

I might move it to a different/new debate though and let this one be for the part-time work issue.

Side: Yes
1 point

It shouldn't matter though, right? The job still needs to get done. With the way the opponents of Obamacare were talking full time jobs would be converted to part time. So, every part time worker who gives up is still replaced by a full time worker to avoid Obamacare. It should increase either way.

Side: No

It is now 2015 and I do not think ObamaCare has forced an increase in part-time work.

Side: No

To continue my data from above with data for 2015:

2014: 7,213,700/4.63%

2015: 6,371,200/4.05%

So, yes, involuntary part-time work has continued to fall.

Side: No