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Hasty banning is a sure sign of intellectual cowardice

One wonders why one would expect to preach a monologue on a site designed for dialogue. I have banned people, but not as a consistent first recourse.

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Of course it is. Let's draw a few parallels. It's like...

Challenging someone to a duel but giving them an unloaded gun

Using an intercom from a soundproof room to yell at everyone else outside it

Having a sword fight with someone who's arms are handcuffed behind their back

A professor who pushes an ideology and automatically gives a fail to anyone who's papers or classroom discussion does not parrot it

A totalitarian regime defining all speech they don't agree with as treason

You get the point.

And their reply to this post, like always, will be that we're being cry babies about it.

The immaturity of the folks issuing lots of bans is well documented - by themselves - and I suspect if we could see what their home lives are really like it wouldn't be too pretty.

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Mr_Bombastic(95) Disputed
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Or, perhaps, they simply don't like you. I've participated in many structured debates. I'm not afraid to debate anyone about anything, as long as they are polite. I draw the line at personal rudeness. If you don't respect me, I have nothing to say to you. Period.

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Grenache(3363) Clarified
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Good luck in the real world then my friend. Because you can't always just hush someone who disagrees with you and then walk away. In fact pretty much the ONLY scenario in the real world where this banning feature is a parallel would be in an organization where you're literally the top dog (Dean, President, whatever) and you wielded censorship as a totalitarian tool. Just doesn't happen anywhere outside of that.

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Amarel(1320) Disputed
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What is it about rude people that makes you so scared to debate them? Why is politeness necessary for rhetorical correctness?

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outlaw60(7564) Disputed
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Can you Progressives just answer a question without some long rant that makes absolutely no sense !

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Grenache(3363) Disputed
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Looks like my post was in the neighborhood of 140 words. Is THAT what you consider a rant? Because usually it's you conservative blowhards pasting up 3 to 5 times that long in your comments.

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"Hasty banning is a sure sign of intellectual cowardice"

"One wonders why one would expect to preach a monologue on a site designed for dialogue. I have banned people, but not as a consistent first recourse."

You said you have banned people so you have to agree with your intellectual dishonesty

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Amarel(1320) Clarified
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You've neglected the meaning of "hasty" as well as my qualifier of "not as a consistent first recourse".

It's nice to see what specific characters showed up to argue this one.

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outlaw60(7564) Disputed
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Did you not say that you have banned people ? Way i read it !

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Bwahahahhahahahaha! Outlaw schooled you off the playground. Better limp back onto the porch.

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If they ban you for disagreeing with them, why are they on a debate site?

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Because Cartman doesn't debate. Cartman has tantrems and cursing fits.

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Cartman(17554) Disputed
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You are offended by cursing. What a smelly libby pussy bitch.

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Nope. If someone chooses to not engage the debate, there is no logical reason to continue in a war of meaningless parody and insults, thus, if you have a brainstem, and value sanity? You push "ban" and continue on about your merry day while they stew in their self hatred and desire to have never been born. Any questions?

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Amarel(1320) Disputed
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Yeah. Do you really think that's what others do when you ban them? Hate themselves? That doesn't even make sense.

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Sure it does. Go pick an Atheist from youtube, and I'll show you what negative, toxic people look like.

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Correction: "Their debate=their content". Not that I care about your feelings getting hurt when I ban you, nor about your opinion of my intellect when I tire of your animosity against God and against me for telling you the truth, I'm only helping with your grammar here.

I'm in the wheelbarrow and I'm on my way home, saved from the chasm of death caused by my sins, covered by the blood of the Lamb of God, hidden under His love.

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Grenache(3363) Clarified
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You're "in the wheelbarrow"? Sounds like I'm not the wino here. And you should probably take a bath to wash off all that blood and God's lovin' spoonfulls.

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NowASaint(939) Clarified
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It was a private understanding between me and Amurel, he knows what I am saying.

You, wino, are pretty much void of understanding and I see no point in wasting time trying to get you to understand the wheelbarrow analogy. If you want, you can find it in the waterfalls..but you probably just want some more wine.

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Amarel(1320) Disputed
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You are hear to preach. To spread the truth. Not to argue for the validity of what you say is true. This is why you ban. You are not here to debate.

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NowASaint(939) Clarified
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The truth is not debatable, I can't help that. 2 plus 2 is 4, if you want to debate about it go ahead but if it's in my discussion and you cuss or use God's name in vain or go off topic and/or insult me, you're probably going to get banned and in order that you do not ruin my enjoyment of presenting truth I am likely to issue a slew of responses posting truth to counter your silly debating.

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Any deity that prefers you over atheists deserves no worship.

Since you expect God to be perfect, you're praying to imaginary entities and will end up in hell.

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He doesn't "prefer" anyone. The problem is, Atheists didn't prefer Him.

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The only time I ban someone is if they are annoying and abusive. It has nothing to do with cowardice. I simply do not want to deal with certain types of people, nor should I have to. They gave us the ability to ban people for this very reason. It also prevents harassment and stalking. So, suck it up, buttercup. If someone bans you, you should probably consider how you have interacted with the one who banned you. But then, some people just can't manage to believe that their behavior might be the root cause of being banned.

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Cartman(17554) Disputed
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You are a massive coward. You let other people argue for you and you run from debates.

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Mr_Bombastic(95) Disputed
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Are you talking to me? If so, I'm sure everyone would love to see an example of such behavior. Put up, or shut up. Also, I'd be willing to have a structured debate on any topic you choose. Assuming you have the guts for it.

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Amarel(1320) Disputed
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Maybe it isn't a lack of respect for you as a person that elicits confrontational behavior, but rather a lack of respect for your stupid fucking opinion. (would this comment get me banned from your debate?).

The hasty banning that I am talking about in this debate is not a discussion of the ban function in general, but it's misuse.

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Mr_Bombastic(95) Disputed
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I submit that it is impossible to misuse the ban feature. If I don't don't want to hear what same asshole like you thinks, that is my RIGHT. I will use it as I see fit, and you can't do a damn thing about, cupcake. Have a nice day.

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I block people for a plethera of reasons depending on the day, the time, and the mood.

1)Because they became emotional babies, thus I did them a favor, preventing them from becoming a danger to their own blood pressure.

2)Simply to piss the person off.

3)Just because I can.

4)Because I am on a power trip at that moment.

5)They refuse to engage the debate or become angry little potty mouths.

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Cartman doesn't even create any debates. He chooses random "drive by posts" with no substance. Of course, he was raised by a ringworm, thus his behavior is as such, and is to be expected. Nevertheless, if someone chooses to not engage in the debate, banning is fine. I've been banned many times. I just copy and paste the debate and start it again as my own or I simply lick myself like a rejected cat, and then walk off like nothing even happened.

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Cartman(17554) Disputed
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No substance?

"I already had me a McMuffin. I heard Diet Coke was bad for you. Is that true Grenache?"

"Quoting the last thing your mom ever said to you is off topic. Off ya go."

"I don't know what the Christian argument is, but I do know a good Brontofest when I see one."

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"34?!?!?! What? Can you actually still perform in bed, or do you need viagra?"

"The site didn't make any sense, and then it led me to Cartman's child pornography..."

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"You weren't planned. I pleaded with your mom to abort you and throw you in the trash. You would have liked it too."

"Bwahahahahhahahaah! Indeed... (devil horns pop out of Bronto's head) setup, Bronto, goes in..."

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"-----is there anything you are honest about?-----

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"It doesn't matter because I don't care. Nevertheless, I will be at home lounging on the couch beforeI die. You will be working for the man, angry at a deity that you claim doesn't exist."

"I'm not afraid of anything. I sit here retired, doing whatever I want. You are trying to find a job that pays more than minimum wage. Anything else you unlucky little bastard?"

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Hey, I never said that my comments always had substance. I said I accept it if they ban me. Now you would be wise to do the same.

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