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Yes. Prolife objection.
Debate Score:26
Arguments:17
Total Votes:29
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Have you ever noticed that alleged prolifers care more about the fetus than born humans?


Yes.

Side Score: 11
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Prolife objection.

Side Score: 15
3 points

I've spent years on three debate websites, first Forandagainst, then Yickyak, and now here. Every site had way too many debate threads about abortion, primarily started by the same handful of prolifers. Every one of those prolifers exhibited:

1) Not only disagreement with but hatred for their opposition, which lead them to

2) Threaten hell, prison, even in some rare cases direct violence, and

3) Demand not a penny of their taxes go to social programs that help these less fortunate in their world, and

4) Repeat the lie that everyone in the world in a desperate need must deserve their desperation because they didn't work hard enough or are immoral degenerates, and

5) Promote abstinence as the solution to all, though that's a naive affront to the basic biological drive of all living things, and

6) Promote adoption, though not a single one of the prolifers I ever spoke to had ever adopted from outside their own family (from inside it yes).

Granted, this is what I witnessed in the behavior of prolifers on debate websites, so this is the vocal representatives of the view. I won't deny there could be some folks who stay off these debate websites who hold prolife views but aren't monstrous about them. There are many good people in this world, and many are more reserved about this when they express their views.

Side: Yes.
3 points

It's amazing, even just on the debates here, how much anger goes towards those that need help. They will fight tooth and nail to take the choice away from the woman but once the child is born they will fight tooth and nail to not have to support the woman who was put in the position of HAVING to have the child by them in the first place. They will fight services meant to help women because only a small portion of those services goes towards something they don't agree with but in trying to remove funding they reduce the amount of services including contraceptives to help prevent the situation to begin with......it's a vicious cycle.

Side: Yes.
1 point

Yup once they're born they stop caring about them until they turn 18 and are eligible to serve as cannon fodder.

Side: Yes.
1 point

Exactly. George Carlin said it best............................................................

Side: Yes.
1 point

Yes this is true ,they couldn't give a damn about the rights of a woman as in it's her body and her choice , it's bullying and manipulation for people to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body .

Side: Yes.

Yes even the animals lovers dont care if people get killed as long as animals dont...But here is the final solution. Abortion is not a political issue its a religious one. The fetus is not alive until it can sustain itself outside the womb. Until that time its a parasite living off of a host....

Side: Yes.
3 points

This argument is logically fallacious. Lets assume for a moment that pro-lifers really "don’t care about what happens after birth." Would that make killing an unborn child defensible? Obviously it wouldn't. The only thing you are doing is using Ad Hominem attacks to paint pro-life people as monsters who just force women to give birth and don't care about the child after it is born. Also, it is an extreme slander of a huge group of people, and appears to show absolutely no empirical data or research. You could then say that pro-lifers are not really pro-life because they don't want to fund certain social programs. This goes back to that selfish argument "I'm here, I'm breathing, give me free stuff". This is more of a child having a tantrum because their mom or dad said no to snakes then it is a political argument. It’s not like pro-lifers are somehow exempted from poverty, disease, and old age. It’s condescending to say to these people “I know what’s best for you, and if you disagree, it can only be because you wish everyone like you was dead.” So instead of saying “pro-lifers only care more about the fetus than born humans", you could say, “although pro-lifers disproportionately give more of their time and money, I respectfully disagree with many of them on the solutions to certain social problems.” However, in order for this argument to work, pro-choice people would need to view the other side as decent human being but that wont happen for the vast majority of people who are pro-choice. Also, the real debate is about the means, not the ends.

Side: Prolife objection.
2 points

They don't care for either.

Side: Prolife objection.
1 point

Well said..............................................................................................................

Side: Prolife objection.
Srom(12206) Clarified
1 point

What lead you to that conclusion?

Side: Yes.
2 points

The pro life crowd tends to be Republicans. Republicans don't believe gun laws work because criminals sill break the law. The pro life crowd then only fights for laws against abortions. They don't fight for the things that actually prevent abortions. I only see the pro life crowd using abortion to attack the pro choice crowd, not to protect unborn babies.

Side: Prolife objection.
2 points

Lets see, I believe you were once prolife on this site, and now you are creating pro abortion debates. Hmmmmmm, I wonder what changed?

What pro abortion people do is constantly making excuses to remove any guilt from supporting abortion. They love making prolife people the enemies so they might not feel any guilt for what they support.

Pro choice people hate Prolife people because we state the obvious. Doctors, scientists, all agree that the unborn life is every bit a living growing human life with everything needed to live a full lifetime.

These pro choice people will try to steer the pro abortion argument to Zygotes, life of mother, rape, & other extreme case abortion so they can try to excuse the inhumanity of supporting even no restriction abortions of viable late term babies for any reason up to birth when they vote for the Democrat Party.

It's sad that they lack the honesty to simply admit their lack of compassion for our most vulnerable innocent lives.

Everyone can be forgiven for our sins if simply admitting them and not trying to excuse them. To deny the inhumanity of abortion is like saying it's not your fault for becoming a drug addict or an alcoholic. Oh wait, I forgot, Democrats have already denied our responsibility for those choices.

Like I said, the no fault anything goes Leftwing Progressive ideology is alive and well.

The next lie they spew is that Prolife people do not care about the babies after they are born. LOL, you total fool liars!

Christians are the largest group of prolife people and they spend their lives giving charity and volunteering to help the needy, the poor, the hungry children, etc.

Why do you bother creating these ludicrous debates when you know in your heart what you support. If you did not feel so guilty about your support of abortion, you would not be here trying to excuse the inexcusable.

Side: Prolife objection.
1 point

No. If the mothers life is at risk then they allow the death of a fetus.

Side: Prolife objection.
1 point

Fetus in Latin means baby, so of course, we care about fetuses because they are actual human beings.

Side: Prolife objection.
1 point

Pro-lifers are for the death penalty. This may seem counter intuitive at first, but it really isn't. Pro-lifers would rather give ALL fetuses a chance at life to prove that they are not assholes and take away life from those that have already proven themselves to be assholes ;)

Side: Prolife objection.
1 point

If a women gets pregnant its her responsibility for the life in the womb, the basis is that many women get an abortion based on convenience its not the right of a women to decide if the baby in her women can live or die just because she feels that she is incapable of providing or parenting it, in most cases the women should have never had sexual intercourse in the first place. The motives of abortion are premised on selfish reasons and then economic disparity is used to justify murdering an unborn child. You cannot have humans in the first place without fetuses!

Side: Prolife objection.