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 Have you noticed how Liberals always ignore the actual point of Conservative debates? (12)

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Have you noticed how Liberals always ignore the actual point of Conservative debates?

When Christians speak out against activist Gays who are trying to twist our faith to sanction homosexuality as being ok by God, what do deceptive Liberals always do?
They without fail will start spewing the same talking points of the Left. They instantly start lying and distorting why Christians are speaking out.
They instantly spew out absolute lies of how Christians are homophobic and supposedly hate Gays, and want them to end up in Hell, and judge them for their sin, and want to deny them their freedom to have partners, etc. etc.

You see, the Left has no rebuttal for what Christians are actually doing when fighting for their religious freedoms to worship as their faith teaches. So the Left and Gay activists attack the messengers who fight for our Christian freedoms not to have Gay Sunday school teachers, or cater Gay wedding receptions, etc. etc.

You see, these anti Christian bigots can not debate Christians on the facts, because they know we have the constitutional freedoms to worship as our faith teaches. So they always lie and and distort the facts. This is text book Liberalism. Liberals are not bound by honesty in their humanist religion of non existent moral values, so therefore they deceive in an attempt to push their agendas!

When people state the obvious of how Homosexuality is an unnatural abnormal sexual orientation (because of what the science of biology teaches), what does the left instantly do? THEY LIE AND DISTORT THE FACTS by repeating the same lies of how there are Gay animals in nature. Complete lie. There are no Gay animals in nature but they have spewed the lie so many times, people actually swallow it as fact.
I have yet to find one of these liars who could show me one Gay animal any of us would know. They repetedly speak about Gay Apes, when in fact Apes will have sex with anything that moves when aroused. These are not Gay apes who only have sex with same sex Apes.
These liars speak to supposed Gay Geese when in fact there are no Gay geese. Male geese never have sex with other male geese, but when there are no other single female geese, male geese might pair up with another male goose.
THIS IS WHAT THEY CALL GAY ANIMALS! Deceptive liars as always!


When Christians and Conservatives speak out against No Restriction abortions, Liberals know that they have no leg to stand on when debating this issue, so what do they do? LIE AND DISTORT THE TRUTH AS ALWAYS!

It is irrefutable fact that the Democrat party supports any late term abortion of viable unborn babies for any reason. The majority of these abortions are done against special needs babies. They realize they can't refute this obvious fact, so what do they do?
They deny supporting this inhumnity when electing the very Democrat Politicians keeping it legal.

They have nothing else but to deny their purposeful obvious support for this inhumanity against our most defenseless! You see, No Restriction abortions shows the Left for total hypocrites when speaking to their so called tolerance, inclusivity, and openness for diversity. The support for diversity and inclusivity of our special needs babies is nowhere to be found on the Left.

They are horrendous hypocrites and liars! It is an absolute waste of time trying to debate these liars because they simply ignore the turth and spew the same old lies and talking points to demonize the messenger.

So for all the Conservatives on this debate site, don't expect any person on the Left to actually debate your words and the point of your debates. They can not truthfully debate the point of your words, so they must insult and distort everything you say. My answer is to ban the liars, because they have proven over and over what a total waste of time they are.
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Tell me exactly how you would go about doing away with abortion. Would you force all women to undergo monthly pregnancy tests and then lock up any woman you suspect might want an abortion?

I'm serious, you can't enforce laws against abortion unless you turn this country into a prison.

The republican leadership loves how dependable you Christian fundies are, and that they're able to lie to you and promise you that they'll do away with abortion if only you would elect enough of them to take all three branches of government.........oh wait, the GOP actually HAS all three branches of government right now and what do you hear from the Republicans now that they could actually pass anti abortion laws? NOTHING! You don't hear anything because REPUBLICANS WILL NEVER PASS ANTI-ABORTION LAWS because they know very well that the result would be a huge disaster. When pretty young middle class white girls start dying from back alley abortions (again) their mothers will be rioting in the streets! The GOP will have to wear those girls corpses around their necks just like the sailor in the Rime of the Ancient Mariner who wore the albatross.

The GOP would cease to exist, and no one knows that better than the GOP party leaders which is why they'll never do anything about abortion except to promise you that they'll do away with it, promises they already know you'll always believe because since you've declared yourself a Christian they know you love being lied to.

And besides, if they ever actually banned abortion they'd lose the best tool they have for dragging tools like yourself into the voting booth every election cycle.

marcusmoon(578) Disputed
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Rusticus,

- 1 - Thank you for the reference to Rime of the Ancient Mariner, and for using the metaphor aptly to symbolize the guilt for poor thinking that results in needless suffering. (When people allude to the poem, I usually see/hear the mistaken use of the albatross to symbolize bad luck or misfortune)

- 2 - Thank you for illustrating the point that liberals "ignore the actual point of Conservative debates." Did you even notice that the question, hence the topic, was about liberal behavior, not liberal or conservative positions on issues.

If you can keep track of the point of a Coleridge poem, I am sure you can keep track of a debate topic.

- 3 - It is not only liberals who ignore the stated points of arguments from opposing points of view. It is a dismally common occurrence for people to talk past each other when debating any topic. I just want to take that off the table as a response point that is used as a tool to ignore my other two points.

FromWithin(6951) Disputed
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You are banned for being an anti Christian bigot and personally insulting me for being a Bibe believing Christian, rather than simply addressing the debate.

I wold have actually responded to some of the things you mentioned, but alas, you are a total waste of time to debate.

I have to remember to put you on my auto ban list.

They instantly spew out absolute lies of how Christians are homophobic and supposedly hate Gays, and want them to end up in Hell, and judge them for their sin, and want to deny them their freedom to have partners, etc. etc.

Up until 2003, gay sex was still illegal in 14 states in America, and for hundreds of years before that, this 'Christian nation' was totally okay with that. That was less than 15 years ago. Do you see why gay people might be skeptical that those sentiments just disappeared?

THEY LIE AND DISTORT THE FACTS by repeating the same lies of how there are Gay animals in nature. Complete lie. There are no Gay animals in nature but they have spewed the lie so many times, people actually swallow it as fact.

1) What evidence would you need to prove to you that there are gay animals in nature? What do you need to see, and I can do some research and see if it exists.

2) What would that prove, either way?

When Christians and Conservatives speak out against No Restriction abortions, Liberals know that they have no leg to stand on when debating this issue, so what do they do? LIE AND DISTORT THE TRUTH AS ALWAYS!

Amazingly, regardless of what you think democratic legislators and voters want, to say that they truly support access to late term abortions for any reason is deceptive.

FromWithin(6951) Disputed
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As always it is you that is deceptive by denying the obviois fact of how you support no restriction abortions wth your vote.

I have many times asked for one of you liars to show me one Gay animal that only has sex with the same sex animal even though their are opposite sex animals around them. I want you to show me one Gay animal that prefers the same sex over opposite sex animals.

You can't because there are none.

Do you ever see Gay lions in Africa? Why do we never see Gay animals in the thousands of animals we watch in nature? All the footage of nature on National geographic, and never any footage of gay animals.

If homosexuality is natural in nature, there would be percentages of Gay animals in every species.

It's amazing all the animals we deal with every day of our lives, yet we never see gay animals. Gay activists are liars and a waste of time to listen to.

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One thing I'd like to reiterate, because I think you skipped over it, but up until 2003, gay sex was still illegal in 14 states in America, and for hundreds of years before that, this 'Christian nation' was totally okay with that. That was less than 15 years ago. Again, even if you don't think it's the case, do you see why gay people might feel like Christians are totally down to "deny them their freedom to have partners" and the like?

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And we've done this before, and I'm sure you'll breeze over all of this, but you mentioned national geographic so:

2004 National Geographic Article about homosexuality in animals.

2009 Review on homosexuality in animals

Articles not enough for you? Here's a documentary with some footage.

And if you want a compilation of some of these reports with more information so you can go evaluate it for yourself, here you go.

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I'm also genuinely curious, have you read any of the case of Roe v. Wade? Do you know why the decisions that were made were made? What flaws do you find in the majority opinion? I know that you disagree with the claim that this should ever be okay, but did you ever look in to the legal arguments that made it legal?