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Here is the result of Progressive Political correctness on our nation's freedoms...
Our nation was founded on a Judeo Christian heritage. This is very important! It means something! It has a great bearing on what we are talking about!
Now those on the Left will deny this obvious fact but I'm talking to people who are not extremist ideologs with an agenda to transform America.
OVER 80% OF AMERICANS IDENTIFY AS CHRISTIANS!
THERE IS A REASON WE HAVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ON OUR COURT ROOM WALLS!
THERE WAS A REASON WHY WE USED TO HAVE A BIBLE IN EVERY HOTEL ROOM!
There are many many symbols of our nation's majority Christian fiath and our schools once had the simple freedoms to express our heritage without fear of backlash from PC people on the Left.
Our Constitution says that Congress shall pass no law preventing freedom of religion, and it says our Government shall establish no religion. Christian nativity scenes on public grounds or Christian holidays established NOTHING. It was symbolic of our history and majority faith!
Our schools never forced children to believe in Christianity. Our Christmas and Easter holidays were symbols of our history and heritage. Our children were not forced to say a Christian prayer and never should be. They were not forced to celebrate Christian holidays. They were excused on those days if parents objected. It was a community's freedom and choice if they wanted to say a prayer at start of school days just, as our Congress starts each session with a prayer in WAshington DC.
We have no Islamic heritage and therefore would have no Islamic symbols of that heritage in schools.
People have swallowed this sickening political correct nonsense that if we express our Christian heritage in public schools, then all cultures must be represented in our public schools. That is pure mindless Leftist rhetoric!
Because of people on the Left, our nation's morals have vanished because they made edicts to ALL public schools that either all religions and cults be recognized, or none of them.
They took what was our most basic freedom of religion, and turned it upside down by telling people that we must lift up all religions, or no religions. No longer freedom to choose! They are saying we must lift up all abnormal sexual orientations, or otherwise we are not being politically correct.
The end result is we no longer have a nation with a MORAL VOICE because the Left has ushered in a Godless amoral anything goes culture.
With their lie of separation of church and state, they have censored any speech dealing with moral values because they will claim....WHOSE MORAL VALUES!
We can no longer state the obvious. Our bodies are designed for a man and a woman! We can no longer lift up the normal biological design of our bodies without also talking about other abnormal sexual orientations.
Our nation is being branwashed into PC thinking. It's a sad thing and only proves how easily people have been brainwashed into many cults through out the ages. The biased media is a bully pulpit for this Big Brother conditioning of a Political correct cult.
Either you believe what Big Brother conditions you to believe, or you will be sued. We must forsake all common sense reality so as not to offend the one.
A nation needs a moral voice or it will collapse. With Political correctness, there can be no moral vocie because they say the moral values once lifted up in this nation might offend someone.
America is a nation built on freedom of religion. You can believe anything you want, or believe nothing. We are free to choose, BUT that does NOT MEAN we must censor our Christian heritage and history for fear of offending someone.
Our nation was founded on a Judeo Christian heritage. This is very important!
Actually, no it wasn't. Literally the first amendment very explicitly states that the country wasn't founded on Judeo Christian heritage.
OVER 80% OF AMERICANS IDENTIFY AS CHRISTIANS!
First of all, that it false. It's a little more than 70%, according to Pew Research, among others. If you have different information, please let me know.
Secondly, you have talked multiple times about how you don't think most of them are 'true Christians,' and how you couldn't care less what they call themselves. Which is it?
Well, with your first denial of our nation having a Christin heritage, like I said, I am not wasting my time with ideologs who deny the undeniable.
We most definitely are a nation with a Christian heritage and our constitution makes sure that we all enjoy the freedom of religion so that no one will ever be forced to believe any religion. THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE MUST CENSOR OUR CHRISTIAN HISTORY AND HERITAGE.
We have the freedom to express our vast majority faith and people of all religions are free to go to our public schools, or create their own private religious schools.
Here is part of what this particular sites says on the subject......
"Christian ideas underlie some key tenets of America’s constitutional order. For instance, the Founders believed that humans are created in the image of God, which led them to design institutions and laws meant to protect and promote human dignity. Because they were convinced that humans are sinful, they attempted to avoid the concentration of power by framing a national government with carefully enumerated powers. As well, the Founders were committed to liberty, but they never imagined that provisions of the Bill of Rights would be used to protect licentiousness. And they clearly thought moral considerations should inform legislation.
America has drifted from these first principles. We would do well to reconsider the wisdom of these changes.
The Founders believed it permissible for the national and state governments to encourage Christianity, but this may no longer be prudential in our increasingly pluralistic country. Yet the Constitution does not mandate a secular polity, and we should be wary of jurists, politicians, and academics who would strip religion from the public square. We should certainly reject arguments that America’s Founders intended the First Amendment to prohibit neutral programs that support faith-based social service agencies, religious schools, and the like.[42]
Finally, we ignore at our peril the Founders’ insight that democracy requires a moral people and that faith is an important, if not indispensable, support for morality. Such faith may well flourish best without government support, but it should not have to flourish in the face of government hostility."
Secondly, you also seem to think that if we don't celebrate Christian heritage, there will be no morals. How do you explain lower crime rates in countries with lower levels of religion? Or the fact that nations with low levels of Christianity aren't moral-less wreckages?
Do you see how people on the Left, such as yourself, never GET THE POINT!
IT'S ABOUT FREEDOMS!!!!!!!!
You just talked about crime rates in other nations with lower levels of religion. Gee, did you know in nations where they cut your hand off for stealing, they have much less theft? Or in nations where they have very tough drug laws, there is much less drug crimes?
This was America where rather than cutting off your hands, we actually lifted up moral values and responsibility for one's choices in life. There was far less crime and drugs and fatherless children, etc. etc. etc.
When our freedoms to lift up moral values, as being good for society, were separated with the Left's lies and twisting of the Consitution, our culture has truly fallen. To bury your head in the sand and deny it truly shows the insecurity from anti God secularists.
No one wants to force religion, or moral values. NO ONE IS SUGGESTING SUCH A THING!
We were a nation built on reigious freedom. Even the Atheists understood this and had the intelligence to know that lifting up moral values were good for a nation, and the only thing that would keep it strong and safe.
Americans understood that censoring religious expression is the exact opposite of what America is all about.
This is why these extremist Democrats like Obama wanted to transform America. Their anti God bigoted ideology was at odds with religious freedoms.
You should be able to express your religion in public exactly to the same degree as Muslims, Mormons, the Church of Satan, the Pastafarians, and agnostics/atheists
It's almost as if religious expression is about what we believe now, not what the founders of the country believed because THIS ISN'T A CHRISTIAN NATION.
And eliminating religious content that is endorsed by the owners of public property is not the same thing as eliminating the ability to express your religion on said property.
The religious right saying that we shouldn't censor christian heritage is really them trying to push their religion on the public.
We want a secular nation that doesn't favor one religion.
People reading this, just remember that a conservative complaining about censorship really is complaining about not being able to destroy our secular nation with their religion.
This is why people like you are so dangerous to our freedoms. It's a sickening lie that America is secular, and it's a sickening lie that we must censor our Christian heritage and History so as not to offend other religions or Atheists.
Can you even grasp a Big Brother nation that must censor any issue that may offend another, or ofend the Government! That is ludicrous. Celebrating our Christian heritage DOES NOT ESTABLISH A RELIGION! IT'S CALLED FREEDOM!
In your sick world of political correctness, only your beliefs of humanism and LGBT activism can be forced on all Americans, but any mention of God must be censored.
You are an arrogent Big Brother elete who thinks only your ideology can be pushed on our children.
No one gives a shit about being "offended", what we don't want is kids in school having to say the pledge of allegiance with America being "under God". Kids were also previously forced to pray in schools. I don't think I've heard anyone trying to censor the whole Christian 1950's thing. You can celebrate your "Christian heritage" all you want, and schools should teach about Christianity through history, but having a school or other governmental organization give special treatment to Christianity is entanglement of religion.
Also, it's time to stop with your "LGBT activism being forced" thing. It's equal rights- you're not being forced to be gay, the only thing being forced is you not being able to control who gets married. I don't care whether or not you think gay marriage is right, but if you think you can prevent gay marriage, then that's the real "Big Brother elite" ideology.
Let me use your words(with a couple changes) so you might just be able to see your double standard and hypocrisy with your indoctrination of LBGT Political correctness.
.....It's equal rights- you're not being forced to be Christian, the only thing being forced is Americans not being able to celebrate their Christian heritage. I don't care whether or not you believe in Christianity, but if you think you can prevent our Christian nativity scenes, or celebration of our Christian holidays on public lands or in some public schools, then that's the real "Big Brother elite" ideology.
ALL WE WANT IS FREEDOMS FOR ALL COMMUNITIES TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOLS CHOOSE TO DO! Local school tax payers should decide if their schools celebrate Christmas or easter holidays, or say the pledge of allegiance, etc. etc.
People in the Democrat party are big brother control fanatics. You are a very scary dangerous person when it comes to your sick Big Brother ideology.
Again, what Christian heritage? What specifics would you liked mentioned?
I don't care if you celebrate Christmas and have nativity scenes on your property. But again, it's not up for the majority of the community as a whole to decide whether the entire communities Children should go to a school to celebrate Christianity. If you want to go to school as a kid and celebrate Christmas or Easter, so be it- but the school shouldn't endorse it. It's up to the children individually to decide whether or not they want to sat the pledge of allegiance or celebrate Christmas. It wouldn't be okay if a community decided for their public school to only celebrate/endorse Islamic holidays, so why is it okay to do the same with Christian holidays? If parents or kids want to individually do things within the school, who cares- as long as it's not mandatory. The same goes for LGBT activism. Schools shouldn't endorse "gay days" or whatever, but kids should be able to without restrictions.
In history, it is important to mention the Judeo-Christian origins and how that might have inspired such documents, and the same goes for LGBT history.
So no, I'm not a control fanatic either way. The children and parents should be able to individually decide what they want to celebrate in school- that's not up for the community as a whole or the school board.
Hogwash as always. The Left wants Gay awareness to be allowed in schools but no Christian holidays to celebrate our Christian heirtage.
I could care less what you believe, I am talking about the PC control fanatics you vote for in the Democrat party.
I told you before, kids were not forced to go to school on Christmas or Easter holidays. They could stay home if the parents wanted.
To compare ABNORMAL WEIRD SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS WITH OUR RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS AND HERITAGE IS LAUGHABLE.
Lets talk about pedophilia ok? They also say they are born that way, so I guess it is also normal to have attractions towards children as long as you don't act on them? Just like men or women having attractions for the same sex. Abnormal is abnormal!
Pedophilia is obviously against the law even if consenting children, but guess what? Under your type of logic, any abnormal sexual orientation is something that others should not oppose when it comes to marriage or our public schools such as forcing all public schools to allow boys into girl's bathrooms.
If they say they are born a certain way, we should lift up their diversity and never say it is not normal. This is what the PC slippery slope has ushered in to this nation.
Newsflash...there is such a thing as abnormal and not something we as a society should sanction as normal with our marriage laws. I'm not saying we should ever disrespect others for their orientations, but we should never force every state to sanction it.
Can you grasp this sick logic you are parroting from the Left? There is nothing that could be said to you. You are brainwashed into political correctness. Truly sad!
"Hogwash as always. The Left wants Gay awareness to be allowed in schools but no Christian holidays to celebrate our Christian heirtage."
Let's break it down.
Let me remind you the difference between "awareness" and "celebration". I'm not advocating for any celebration of sexual orientation. I'm talking about orientation awareness. I also don't advocate for school sponsored celebration of christian holidays. For Christian heritage awareness? Of course. It's important to talk about that in history class, just as it's important to talk about orientations in sexual education class.
As for kids not being forced to go to school on Christmas or Easter holidays, I don't care. That's religious freedom. Those times also luckily coincide with other religious holidays too, which is nice.
"To compare ABNORMAL WEIRD SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS WITH OUR RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS AND HERITAGE IS LAUGHABLE."
I'm not making much of a comparison, really. I think the two are separate things. You seem to be the one comparing the two, saying I want gay awareness days but no Christian holidays. I don't want either to be endorsed by the school. If the school population wants to hold their own gay awareness days and holidays, so be it. One is freedom of expression, the other is religious freedom.
Also, what's wrong with weird and abnormal sexual orientations? Pedophilia I understand, that's harmful, as I've said, Children can't consent. As long as they aren't acting on their urges, then there's nothing to be worried about. Abnormal is something that Pedophilia very much is, but that doesn't mean that someone with a Pedophilic urge who refrains from acting on it is wrong.
The same goes for same-sex relationships, which are on the contrary not even harmful at all. Your only argument against it is "abnormal and weird", which is not only subjective but also is just prejudice against gay people for some reason. Furthermore, it does nothing to explain to me why you think it's wrong. I don't care how much you're "offended" at gay people, they're not doing anything that harms people. Not your job to regulate their life.
"Newsflash...there is such a thing as abnormal and not something we as a society should sanction as normal with our marriage laws. I'm not saying we should ever disrespect others for their orientations, but we should never force every state to sanction it."
Let's review. Abnormal is a subjective thing that you decide in your head. What does it have to do with what society sanctions as normal? Many people consider gay marriage normal, and you consider it to be abnormal. What basis are you using for this judgement besides your own opinion? I agree that people of all kinds deserve respect, regardless of orientation. However, the fact that you seem so predisposed towards gay people and don't want to give them the right to marriage they deserve like any other person. It's not "sanctioning" marriage, it's basic civil rights. Although it's not a good comparison to make, there were people who believed that interracial relationships were abnormal and weird. At that time, they were.
"If they say they are born a certain way, we should lift up their diversity and never say it is not normal. This is what the PC slippery slope has ushered in to this nation."
Slavery was once normal, but now it's not. Whether or not something is standard in society does little to add to whether or not its right.
Whew, that was a long one. So, the main points are: 1.) I want Christian heritage to be mentioned in history, but not endorsed or celebrated by the school administrators or other equivalent and the same goes with homosexuality but in sexual education. The celebration is up for the school body to decide individually. 2.) "Abnormal" and "weird" are subjective and therefore don't add to your argument- furthermore, what makes homosexuality so abnormal and weird.
As always, it's ok when you label Pedophiles as abnormal when not acting on their attractions towards children, but intelligent people are no longer allowed to make the same obvious observation that homosexuaity is abnormal.
You are programmed and indoctrinated into political correct LBGT activism.
It is no more an equal rights issues than it would be if our activist court all of a sudden said that Pedophiles could marry consenting children.
You would be screaming that pedophilia is ABNORMAL even if children are consenting. You would be correct.
We on the Right are correct when saying Homosexuality is ABNORMAL and in no way an equal right's issue in regards to marriage.
To even ask the question what makes Homosexuaity abnormal? WOW!
We are through here. Take biology class once more please. You missed the entire part about how our bodies are designed.
This is why people like you are so dangerous to our freedoms.
Your beliefs are dangerous to other peoples liberties.
It's a sickening lie that America is secular,
Not its not, you clearly don't care about the constitution. Read the first amendment.
and it's a sickening lie that we must censor our Christian heritage and History so as not to offend other religions or Atheists.
Your wording translates to: "It's a sickening lie that Christians can't push their religion onto the public(oppress)".
Can you even grasp a Big Brother nation that must censor any issue that may offend another, or ofend the Government!
Its not censorship, its secularism.
That is ludicrous. Celebrating our Christian heritage DOES NOT ESTABLISH A RELIGION! IT'S CALLED FREEDOM!
Practice it yourself instead of trying to push our country to live by it.
In your sick world of political correctness, only your beliefs of humanism and LGBT activism can be forced on all Americans, but any mention of God must be censored.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."(U.S. Constitution Amendment 1)
No, I don't oppose exercising your religion(or talking about God). However, I do oppose promoting your religion to the public. No prayer in public schools(violates our secular state), no laws based on religious beliefs, etc.
Forcing equality and liberty on Americans? That isn't "forcing" on others.
Legalizing gay marriage isn't "forcing" on Americans since it is just equality that doesn't affect their lives. Your conservatism does though.
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble, or prohibiting ...
Where is Judeo Christian mentioned in the 1st Amendment !
Here is what you said Dummy Democrat. Actually, no it wasn't. Literally the first amendment very explicitly states that the country wasn't founded on Judeo Christian heritage.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
Doesn't explicitly state it. I think he meant to say that Congress does not explicitly say Judeo-Christian, not that Congress explicitly says no Judeo-Christian.
Allow me to clarify my statement, because it was partially incorrect.
While the Bible doesn't explicitly reject Judeo Christian values, it does explicitly establish itself as secular, in that it cannot endorse or regulate any religion.
"There are many many symbols of our nation's majority Christian fiath and our schools once had the simple freedoms to express our heritage without fear of backlash from PC people on the Left. Our Constitution says that Congress shall pass no law preventing freedom of religion, and it says our Government shall establish no religion. Christian nativity scenes on public grounds or Christian holidays established NOTHING. It was symbolic of our history and majority faith! Our schools never forced children to believe in Christianity. Our Christmas and Easter holidays were symbols of our history and heritage. Our children were not forced to say a Christian prayer and never should be. They were not forced to celebrate Christian holidays. They were excused on those days if parents objected. It was a community's freedom and choice if they wanted to say a prayer at start of school days just, as our Congress starts each session with a prayer in WAshington DC."
First- what forms of Christian heritage are you talking about? I'd like to have specifics here.
And for kids never being forced to say a Christian prayer, do the 1950's and 1960's mean anything to you? Engel v. Vitale?
