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God Always Existed In Himself God was Jesus The Human
Debate Score:18
Arguments:18
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Hermaphroditism Is The Ultimate Eternal Position In Being:

In origins a human sexual hermaphrotide has both genders and can mate with either genders as well. Not all hermaphrodites are chosen by the doctors at birth and sterilzed of one of those genders. Spiritually speaking the best way to describe God's origins is by drawing an analogy of hermaphroditism to it: God always existed in and of Himself as He had no Creator, therefore the human condition of hermaphroditism is the ultimate eternal spiritual condition of that of God Himself. By what other means can you explain God's Pre-Existing form? It would be hard to do, so let's just go with this parallel drawn here unless you can better explain. Give it a try....;)

God Always Existed In Himself

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God was Jesus The Human

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1 point

Wait...

What?

Side: God Always Existed In Himself
1 point

What the.....

This is the weirdest and most confusing debate I have ever seen.

IT MAKES NO SENSE D:

Side: God Always Existed In Himself
VenusEve(170) Disputed
1 point

Conceptually speaking it might be possible that since God had no origin and He is the Creator of mankind, then He has within Himself the capacity to have been His OWN Creator.

Do you agree with this concept?

Side: God was Jesus The Human
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"then He has within Himself the capacity to have been His OWN Creator"

Ahhhhhhhhh now I understand where you are trying to go. The concept seems rather flawed to me. To say that he created himself would imply that he had power before he was created, which doesn't hold to logic. The only way around the problem of where god came from is in fact, another god, enlisted a never ending cycle of gods. This theory is flawed in that it proposes that there are multiple supreme beings in apparent "total" control, but this flaw is no more self damaging then insisting that an entity created itself before it was created. Such paradoxes make no logical sense.

Side: None of the Above
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Since God is said to be omnipotent, he should be able to procreate with either sex, if he so chooses.

But I don't see how hermaphroditism can be compared with God's eternal and uncaused existence. Being a hermaphrodite only means you can procreate with either sex, not that you can create yourself or exist uncreated.

Side: God Always Existed In Himself
VenusEve(170) Disputed
1 point

The bible says about Jesus the human's birth in Matthew that the Holy Spirit "overshadowed Mary" so that she became pregnant (Immaculate Conception)....so even in Jesus God was STILL self-perpetuating!

Side: God was Jesus The Human
Peekaboo(704) Disputed
1 point

I get that... but what has that do to with comparing hermaphroditism to self-creation or uncreated existence?

Side: God Always Existed In Himself

How about neither. A non-existent entity has no form at all. And whether or not he existed, his status as described in religious text is nothing short of ridiculous.

Side: None of the Above
1 point

I don't even understand what the hell this debate is about. She's asking whether or not people with a horrible disorder are the embodiment of the Christian God? Wtf? I don't get it.

Side: God was Jesus The Human

I don't either. I just threw some atheist leaning agnostic shit out there. Looks like it works well enough.

"She's asking whether or not people with a horrible disorder are the embodiment of the Christian God?"

Lol.

Side: None of the Above
VenusEve(170) Disputed
1 point

Self-Eternalism.....k?

That which has no origin can have no end. Must be self-creating.

Side: God Always Existed In Himself
VenusEve(170) Disputed
1 point

If you find a debate you cannot understand with your inherent intellectual capacities then let it go to someone who can perceive the debate at hand. No need to be rude out of your lack. Thank you! :)

Side: God Always Existed In Himself
1 point

There are so many backwards assumptions here I don't even know where to start.

I'll just go on record as saying there is both no such thing as god or jesus and at the same time nothing wrong with being a hermaphrodite.

While we're at it, hairlips were made in the image of unicorns who had their horn cut off then morphed into human form. Why not?

Side: None of the Above