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Hey confident fundamentalists! I've a challenge for you.
For those who are not completely sure about the results in their faith, this debate is not.
So, what can you bet on something happening on which you have a lot of faith? (eg. God coming back in some predefined interval; or you being saved from hell; etc.)
Can you bet your soul on that? Of course, if it will definitely happen, then you can lose nothing, and your faith to your deity will be demonstrated.
When you do the bet, I'll ban you from the debate so that you can not edit the argument later.
These are the things that must be present in your argument.
1. Your username (yes, you must state it) (no real names or details that can not be verified as yours)
2. Your assertion (the thing you have faith on)
3. Reasons for your belief (can be anything, even as simple as that God is good, but must be present)
4. A footnote that you are typing it out of your free will (that it's not forced at all), you intend to type it, and are not under the influence of any mind altering substances.
5. In the name of *your deity*, saviour or something like that - whoever you'd trust enough in such matters.
6. And, of course, that you bet your soul on it to me (use my username properly)
Though I'd generally prefer you sign it in your blood, that's, sadly, not really available right now. So, let your account suffice for the purpose - we can take care of the context later.
You are free to choose between the dialects of English. Though I prefer it to be in British English.
As an atheist myself, I stand in wonder at the venomous anger you spew out of your mouth toward those who believe. Having stood among them myself for most of my life, I can find no disdain or hatred for them. Overbearing zealots on the other hand are hard to ignore. For them, I have a vigorous dislike that falls far short of hatred and disdain. So I ask you to explain, in all honesty, from where does your vitriol and hatred come.
I fear Jatin you may have set the bar too high , a fair proportion of fundies on CD are bottom feeders who are unable to tie their shoelaces without help
Interesting challenge. I would have no problem taking it, but, I already have. I even have a fiery balls avatar! ;-0 I still believe I'll go to as cool a place as any hypocritical Christian on CD!
Hey, i'd recommend you delete this motion. No one is swearing anything to you especially when we know you well(who you are). You want a philosophy, start your survey on faith on the streets where no one knows you or your believes.
Don't worry about betting right away - I didn't even intend it that way. I'll be encouraging you to do so for days to come, and for that I needed a real debate.
As I said, I create these debates mainly to quote them in my arguments. These are won by design - you can't defeat me on what I've already analysed.
Oh well, it means that it is so worthless that even if we add value to it based on a possible dislike of you any rational person might have, it is still worthless.
Oh well, it means that it is so worthless that even if we add value to it based on a possible dislike of you any rational person might have, it is still worthless.
'd recommend you stop hoping to compare that with my posts.
ukr?
My ass is superior to your posts. It's like excellency that should sit itself on "your posts beneath" as a throne, but even you just admitted it is not worthy to be a seat for ma ass, even.
You're a fucking idiot, the man was in a foreign land and alone. What stupid lab are you talking about.
The guy, am sure is an illiterate, and has no clue on how to use modern inventions to fake his act. He does not even walk with a camera man.
He cuts off his tongue and replaces it and did other things. And he was even challenged to prove his authenticity.
About a month ago, someone also cut off his dick because he lived in the same room with his mom, and his mother's presence in their room interfered with his night incantations so his deity asked him to make that sacrifice. The guy is very sane. He cut off his dick and showed no signs of pain and after bleeding for two hours, he was taken to the hospital, he did not die, and since they knew he wasn't crazy, he wasn't taken to prison.
You're sick. There are so many mystical things happening that is beyond science......
The level at which they are, makes our sceinces not worthy to measure.
To the spiritual world, our sciences are mediocrity of what is termed as science.
Our science sustains on senses(flesh:feel, hear, see, taste, smell)
While they sustain their spirit and flesh is just a bonus.
That is how come these people are able to cut their body parts and not feel pain because they are surviving on their spirits(flesh is bonus).
And there are ways people are able to gain independence for their spirits and achieve things beyond the physical(flesh) limitations
Ex. Iron man and his suit are two separate entities and are yet able to work together as one.
Iron man can have his suit destroyed and still be unharmed.
The spirit is beyond the flesh...so how do you measure the spirit with fleshy properties and methods....
Jeffery calm down will you , listen the trick of cutting off and restoring ones tounge is over two hundred years old , the worst possible people for exposing so called magic are lay people and scientists unfortunately are as easily fooled .
When I was a child Uri Geller ( google him ) had most the world fooled with his metal bending feats and made international headlines doing so , the only people he did not fool were fellow magicians like the brilliant James Randi ( Google him ) Geller had deceived some of the worlds best scientists with mere conjuring tricks known to magicians worldwide .
There is an old saying " it's takes a thief to catch a thief " do not take my world for it do a google search on what I've told you and if you still believe in so called real magic .. I give up
I tried to be nice to you but you're such a bitter nasty person you cannot accept I may be telling you the truth magicians have been doing this trick for two hundred years ... you can buy the secret if you wish here is one of many links https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3dgu5CEtLEI
Bet you won't apologise for calling me a liar because you're not a man with honour but just a coward who when confronted with truth prefers ignorance .
Bet you won't apologise for calling me a liar because.......
Apologise for what? Your ignorance?
You are not only an ignorant liar but also an idiot.
The man in question is not European in the first place. He therefore does not belong to any magic tricks community, network or association.
2. He did not learn magic you idiot, people like that inherit from their ancestors compulsorily or face punishment; could be death even, not by any man, they die suddenly from no physical attack.
3. Their ancestors were illiterates ;certainly,and had no access to european inventions for tricks.
You are a big fool indeed, you challenge certain things and it's so irritating . I wish you would one day encounter one(original) of these people(here) to challenge them about over their acts..
I promise you death.
Those people battle each other to prove who is more powerful and one ends up dying to end the battle.
(They don't use weapons).
You idiotic european tricksters do fake of what is originally done here and you think it's the same.
Fucking idiots.
You can easily die at an african festival.
Someone cut off his penis(at home), as a spiritual sacrifice, bled for two hours before taken to the hospital, taken care of and taken to prison and you call it a trick? Fucking idiot.
You see baboons like you are so easily fooled by these Nigerian baboons that's why your country and its people remain the same dense individuals generation to generation ,a couple of glass beads and you would sell your mother you Ghanaian baboon
Ok then. I see you are really ready for my word on this topic. Just make sure none of your friends interfere.(as usual)
i won't attack your personality yet....i will save that for last.
So lets talk about just Ghana and Ireland with little comparison to neighbouring countries.
Take note of these.....they will factor in the argument.
Russia's current economy.
The age difference between ireland and Ghana.
The economic difference between ireland Ghana with currency as the tool of measurement.
Etc.
Don't address them yet-as i go to my first question.
it's a fact your people are not particularly bright
I presume bright represents intelligence in this meaning; right?
SO
According to you, how do you measure the intelligence of an economy or country or the evidence of intelligence of a country within your own specifically clarified period of time?...
I take your word on nothing as you have no honour and you're a compulsive liar .
I don't understand your nonsense what the fuck are you trying to say you baboon?
I measure intelligence on CD by responses I get to enquiries, when someone from Ghana who everyone agrees is extremely dense well then yes ... you're dense ...
Come on you're sent evidence of a trick you fell for that a child here knows how it's done and you think you're bright ?
You're dense and Ghanaians are famed for being particularly dense .
I did not even include the pre colonial history and you shivering like the coward you are.
Fucking idiot , you dare call africa lazy......
Where as in the pre colonial state, europe was not to be compared to africa in development. Africa was developed you fucking idiot.
Till the indians came to know about east africa , then came idiots from the saharas, then the lazy europeans who were under developed and used hard working strong blacks to work on american lands and transfered goods to develop europe. And now europe claim to have given life to Africa...γ STUPID FOOLS.
The Great wall of Zimbabwe built was so amazing. And as whites do their best to tag africa as lazy, you's made some stupidly absurd assertions about some whites coming to build it earlier and returned back because it is impossible for blacks to build such a wall.......so stupid ....so why would whites develop a land whiles their lands were still not developed.
Africans built and developed europe, America or whatever state you call developed or powerful.
You whites sat down in Germany and shared africa like a cake and then attacked.
Had the little kingdoms which existed in Africa in those pre colonial ages been together as one people(more like current day nation), instead of fighting among themselves to expand their empires, and also recognised quickly those whites as enemies not traders, your lands by now would have been as miserable as hell.
Even only west africa has more mineral resources than the whole of europe and more.
Even now, subtract the work of blacks from european or american development in those slave times, and you will see your remains. Your remains will even lack foundation because you built upon what the blacks did for you mfkrs.
The europe of today would have never existed without blacks you tag as lazy.
Africa as at now has still not recovered from the bad beating of colonisation, Africa has lost it's course.
It was attacked unexpectedly by its enemies they thought were peaceful traders but turned out to be thieves, criminals and monsters.
Africa has had it's genuine course and traditions been corrupted by the cultures of it's colonies who till today still keep on injecting things into our systems even after independence.
Africa is slow at development due to deliberately injected poisons into our systems and cultures, manipulations, Conspiracies, poke nosing or uninvited interferences where you take advantage to steal from us ex. In crisis you send soldiers for peace keeping but all just disguised thieves ....
Then you tag Africa as lazy.Stupid fool.
You train your children to have that mindset and they also grow to insult africa and yet rob us.
Lucky is europe i won't enter into governance or politics.
Dr.Kwame Nkrumah had a great plan for all of Africa and europe and america felt threatened his ideologies and they therfore sponsored some idiots in Ghana to organise a coup de'tat against him.
Even Russia first as enemies of Africa and people who believe in the Marxist theory tried to sponsor Dr. Kwame Nkrumah to win back presidency but then..γγ........
Fucking idiot
You can never insult Africa right in my face because i will have a knife in your throat stupid old man.
And i will still have 150% chances of God's pardon without even asking....
The Black Wall Street capable of showing the potential of Blacks tagged as lazy or less intelligent was destroyed by the KKK.γ.
So that you fucking idiots can keep on Tagging blacks in the bad picture you have always wanted to in the minds of the whole world.
Do you even know why White egypt became part of Africa.....γ
Yes Africans are lazy dogs and idiots , you're a perfect example of what I speak .
Africa was never developed till we came and attempted to educate you's that's why the whole of Africa is a shithole relying on foreign aid you's cannot feed , clothe or educate yourselves and you spend your lives wishing you's were white .
All Africans do is sit on their lazy fat asses waiting on handouts as they're to lazy to work and have no pride as they hold the begging bowl out to their superiors .
Blacks in my country never work but live off welfare and have the manners of dogs yet we take pity on the brutes and feed and house them as they know no better .
Dr .Kwame was a baboon who just believed in lining his own pocket you're just like him and your threat y knife shows what a coward you are where I'm from we do it without weapons but then again you're a cowardly Ghanaian and that's the way you's do things you lazy , cowards
You are a fucking idiot ....read About the pre colonisation age ...stupid fool.
Civilisation even started from africa in the kush kingdom....
Of the homosapiens
The different type of humans who existed in europe went extinct and was left with only homo sapien who were in the lands of Africa.
Africa started developing even before europe....they were communists.
Their only mistake was not percieving the wolves in sheep skin.
And it took them long to agree to fight as a country instead of a kingdom.
You say you brought education to Africa. You're a fucking idiot and aristotle and achemides are thieves. He stole the some knowledge of maths from the early egyptians. There are historical records which proves the land of egypt has been by about Four Blacks kings.
Aristotle made certain mathematical knowledge public which were already been exercised in africa long ago.
Even the football game.
There are so many things that originated from africa but today in the name of europe.
Old african empires practised within only their kingdoms and education would have popularised and travelled from one kingdom to another gradually without colonisation as they conquered each other and expanded their empires.
Colonisation has never favoured but destroyed the genuine africa. Colonisation helped europe to develop From under development and yet you ungrateful fools tag africans as lazy.
The work a black man here does in a day in the hot sun will kill you if you try it in just two weeks with or without sun cream, idiot.
Whites are the weakest people in physical strength i have ever known.
Take a look at the black athletes.
Blacks come to your countries, you bully them at work places, giving them stupid jobs you wouldn't do yourselfs due to the shame,Maltreat them, cheat them in salary because you know they have no body to protect them and when they finally give up and decide to sleep on the streets, then the same you, tag them as Lazy.
Congratulations. Nice setup.
Fucking idiot.
If you weren't a lazy man, why would you with an an 'acclaimed' masters yet , Take street/Stage magic as a profession. A lazy man who wants easy money.
Aristotle made certain mathematical knowledge public which were already been exercised in africa long ago.
I wonder where you have that from. Early Egyptians knew only enough maths to collect taxes (which included calculating area of land and some elementary operations on whole numbers). That was about 3000 years ago.
Then it went to Babylon. Then to Ancient Greece. Thales and Pythagoras were the first real mathematicians.
Euclid hadn't yet arrived on the scene.
Aristotle was still trained in Pythagorean Mathematics at the Academy.
Everyone knows that it all had started in Egypt. What knowledge did Aristotle make public?
Even in other parts of Africa in the pre colonial ages mathematics was functional.
But you have misunderstood me....my argument is not about mathematics but education.
The are so many scientific practices in the most deprived villages in Ghana that so called acclaimed scientists have no knowledge of.
From cure to preparation of food, separation methods etc.
Mostly practised by old women who were young in those old days.
My lecturer has even started writing an article on that(about unknown ancient science).
So my point is, African did science, maths, history(myth) etc....it's just that they didn't set institutions called school to gather or expand that knowledge. It was practised in their homes as common sense.
What knowledge did Aristotle make public?
Aristotle is not my focus here . But then if you want to know, it has to do with where he grew up not where he was trained.
I'd call that... a distributed system of knowledge.
Even if that was correct what they knew, apparently, you've traded advancement for whatever it has been that led to so much division.
In ancient India, though kingdoms were divided, education was unified (much like the modern system worldwide). Children were left with their teachers until they were proficient. No textbooks.
Due to corruption, it was then lost in conquest. Many of the highest commanders committed treason. Many of the kings were not capable enough to rule (well, there were a lot of small kingdoms) and the British knew how to gain control over it. It was actually an easy expansion when they stopped trying brute force.
And, except for transport, it all went down in the colonial period. Though I like English being a primary subject - it opens quite a bit of opportunities for performance, as it is the most widely used language worldwide.
Seeing as you're attacking me on Stains post where I'm banned once again showing the cowardly nature of Ghanaians I shall deal with you here ; I do not believe in a hell you Ghanaian idiot if you wish to crawl up to Stain and lick his balls do so with out seeking my permission
I'd call that... a distributed system of knowledge.
Even if that was correct what they knew, apparently, you've traded advancement for whatever it has been that led to so much division.
In ancient India, though kingdoms were divided, education was unified (much like the modern system worldwide). Children were left with their teachers until they were proficient. No textbooks.
Due to corruption, it was then lost in conquest. Many of the highest commanders committed treason. Many of the kings were not capable enough to rule (well, there were a lot of small kingdoms) and the British knew how to gain control over it. It was actually an easy expansion when they stopped trying brute force.
And, except for transport, it all went down in the colonial period. Though I like English being a primary subject - it opens quite a bit of opportunities for performance, as it is the most widely used language worldwide.
You must have had quite a weak military to deal with it.
None could have won here by war, like they couldn't in China. In fact, if around 300 BC, Chanakya's dream of a united India were accomplished (which it sort of was, soon), it'd have been one of the strongest countries (and USSR would have won the cold war). Only a chaos theorist can appreciate the wide effects. Then probably Russian or Hindi would have been the most widely used language in the world.
Africa, though... I wonder whether anything would have changed there.
They didn't start off showing themselves as enemies like you usually see in wars.
In the Gold Coast for example, there was already emnity between the kingdoms who here. So the sheep skinned wolves allied with the weak tribes or kingdoms to defeat the stronger kingdom(Ashanti Kingdom).
They had half of Ghana to themselves and were dominated over all the other kingdoms.
After conquering the Ashantis that they had total supremacy over the whole land.
They came peacefully, built fortes, studied the relationships and tribal wars and then acted.
It's not about the strength of your army mainly.....
Here, they came (Aurangzeb issued a royal order according to which British could trade without paying any duty), tried waging wars (which they generally lost, and ended up bribing commanders and such stuff) and then decided to keep it slow in the beginning.
Don't need to read anything as I know of what I speak it doesn't matter how old your civilastion is if you remain in your ignorance as in never progressing and relying on handouts from your superiors .
Africa is mostly an underdeveloped shithole full of corruption and poverty a its people are lazy and ignorant just like you ; the education system is dreadful a 10 year old here would school your average ' professor ' if indeed such a thing exists in Africa .
Your nonsense about Aristotle and Archimedes is gibberish as Jatin has corrected you on , Africans good at maths π indeed , that's how we bought people and lands with glass beads so they weren't very good at commerce were they π
The work a black man does in a day is normally internet scamming as you've admitted before , whites don't really need that physical strength as brain power favours the white man π black athletes yet no swimmers , and again let's talk intelligence , black chess players ? scientists ? Authors ? Mathematicians ? Physicists ?
Funnily enough blacks in my country are not homeless they mostly live on welfare and are all housed , they screech racism the minute their demands are not met most are bone idle lazy fat fucks ( mostly ) not one black person sleeps on the streets here and all flee from their filthy African countries that only offer poverty and starvation .
I said I was acclaimed as in I'm an expert on the bible ,also yes I have a masters and it seems to upset you π I worked as a mentalist /magician because I liked making piles of money and working very few hours for it , isn't that shocking π
You keep calling me old π my previous profile image was of Charles Darwin who you thought was me π and then claimed Charles Darwin was a .....rapper π
βΌοΈβΌοΈNow let me demonstrate what a truly sick nasty brute you are here is what you say about women who are victims of rape π
Women get raped and will talk about it for the rest of their lives.......so hysterical and shit..... Creating organisations and shit instead of moving on after month like a male rape victim will....
And i just don't get it.
Infact there are a few women who enjoy rape though.
it's all about your psychology and the strength of your mind.
Africans don't have much on the international market and if the other continents decide to stop buying from africa, it wouldn't affect us much.
But when Africa decides to stop buying from and selling to the other continents, your development will come to a stand still where as africa will keep developing and even under develop the other continents just like in the pre colonial ages.......because we developed you.
Had you not discovered Africa your saviour existed, you would have been in hell by now.
And i am not intimated by your mediocre of magic as your name will not show up in the Top 1000 Magicians who ever existed......
Yet again being the half wit you are you totally miss the point , I'm saying the majority of Africans are bone idle uneducated halfwits as can be plainly seen by the fact that whether you like it or not most African countries are third world shitholes ,you know it you live in one .
Incidentally Kofi Anna was and remains an ' Uncle Tom ' who licked the whites man ass , a disgrace .
Your link to Boris Johnston is comedy gold π
Africa our saviour π when you all live on handouts over here and cannot live in your own shitholes that why you's come here π
No the name I use here will certainly not show up on your list .... π Hint ... maybe it's not my real name π oddly enough your ' real' name is still not showing in famous .... rappers π³
So all this hidden science the women in your villages keep hidden is that where you got your theory of hamburger evolution from ?π
And are you still sticking by your statement that women enjoy rape as that's what you claim ... you beast
Is education even possible if the specimen we have on here is typical of the populace of that ghastly place , I may buy half a pound of glass beads and buy the place yet
You're a fucking idiot. His act from the link was not even done in Ghana. He is Ghanaian but he did it south africa. If Ghanaians you say are stupid and believe in magic, then why the south africans also believe in his act.
Or you want to call south africans equally stupid and primitive as well?
Even, some south african challenged him and he proved his act authentic.
The same people made away with his perfume and suffered implications(The main reason why the story was written)
Oh, so he replaced his flesh tongue with that of his spirit?
You're an idiot.
So, if I learn a few magic tricks, that'd be enough to win Ghana over?
You're a fucking idiot......who will be beaten to death like any fake european magician who steps foot here.
This debate is a total pisser, mate! I'm laughing so hard at your challenge to the godists that I think me head might bloody fall off. Good show!
But me thinks you scared the dodders off. As of this writing I've not seen a single one of those blokes take you up on your offer. Guess their faith isn't as strong as they'd have us belidve, eh mate? They know deep down that religion is all bollocks.
