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Higher education is a privileg Higher education is a right
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Higher Education is a privilege not a right

Higher Education is a privilege not a right

Higher education is a privileg

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Higher education is a right

Side Score: 8
1 point

I don't think many people would argue that higher education is a right, though I would hope most think that some degree of education is. Seeing as how "higher education" means education beyond levels we have deemed a right (via public schools), this makes the concept of it being a right or a privilege somewhat odd, as it wouldn't effectively be "higher education" if we made it a right and publicly supplied it.

That said, our society benefits as a whole by helping subsidize higher education, as well educated citizens are less likely to commit crimes, less likely to become more, less likely to consume dangerous substances, etc. So whether or not it is a right, it is something our society should definitely help disseminate.

Side: Higher education is a privileg
1 point

I would agree in principal with this. The "RIGHT" is that, if you WANT it, it shouldn't be necessary to have a "YUGE" bank account, or go into a "YUGE" debt, or a family in high places! The "privilege" should be their if you WANT it!

Side: Higher education is a privileg
1 point

Higher education is unadulterated R-A-C-I-S-M.

Black's academic performance is well below the achievements of other racial groups and are therefore all too often left languishing at the starting line.

Higher education is no more than a white supremacist's cheap attempt to embarrass and humiliate the unfortunate blacks of our nation.

The prime function of degrees and diplomas is to impose a system of racial hierarchy within our society that distinguishes between the dumb and the clever.

Side: Higher education is a privileg
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Side: Higher education is a privileg
1 point

Everyone should at least have a college degree we should use scholarships to complete our higher education.

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Side: Higher education is a privileg
3 points

In today's society, everyone has a degree. College students are still working in fast food, convenience stores, etc. It used to be that a high school degree and some experience got you somewhere; this is no longer the case, and I'm starting to lean towards integrating higher education as a "right." This isn't because I can't afford, need, so on & so forth higher education, but because a degree no longer holds the value it used to. Much like inflation, the more there are, the less they're worth.

Side: Higher education is a right
Amarel(5669) Disputed
1 point

2 year tech degrees hold more value than quite a few 4 year bachelors degrees. It's not that quality degrees don't hold the weight they used to; it's that there is a preponderance of low quality degrees with high appeal to those who wouldn't have had a degree at all 60 years ago. They wouldn't be better off with having their worthless/useless education funded for them, they would be better off learning something useful, such as financial responsibility.

Side: Higher education is a privileg
2 points

If you look at the UN Declaration of Human Rights, or for that matter any other document declaring rights of peoples or citizens, youd probably recognise that many of them relate to liberties all humans should be "entitled" to, but are afforded by the Government.

Going back to basics, you have democratic governments, monarchs and dictatorships. Let's look at democratic governments. For these to work, you need to ensure that the population has a right to vote. The right to free election - the right to vote, as it's a right, not a privilege.

However, to vote - as in for a democracy to work successfully - you need to provide your people with the ability to not only make informed decisions, but have the capacity for critical analysis of a plethora of news (and fake news), and to understand the implications of the decisions they are making. "Bread and circus" is not the way to a forward-facing democratic nation-state.

So what is the difference between education and higher education? We now know that automata is increasingly taking over basic tasks and jobs afforded to those who have minimal skills. We also know as the economy grows, we are facing a high-skills shortage. So we're not only talking about the economy needing to address a shortage of skills, but we're talking about an untrained population waiting for future unemployment in the coming workplace. The question training and education of a population should not be beholden to the shortage of employment, but should rather be seen as a workforce for a growing creative/knowledge economy.

Talent, global talent, is a source of growth. This is known.

I do not think that high-skilled, high-paid jobs should only be secured to those that have the 'privilege' to higher education.

Of course there are alternative routes that fit different lifestyles, HE doesn't fit everyone. Apprenticeships, or simply people working their way up, are also options. But for those with the ambition and want, I do not think that their choices should be blocked because a higher stage of education is reserved for those who has the financial backing of some form of privilege.

We are all entitled to the pursuit of knowledge, the right to access that knowledge, and the right to use excellent hubs of knowledge, research, teaching and learning, and innovation [ie HE providers] to pursue such a path.

Side: Higher education is a right
sylynn(626) Disputed
1 point

you need to provide your people with the ability to not only make informed decisions, but have the capacity for critical analysis of a plethora of news (and fake news), and to understand the implications of the decisions they are making.

A higher education is not required, in fact I'd argue this may hinder a person from making their own decision.

we are facing a high-skills shortage

I'm not sure you understand what is meant by this. There are plenty of college-educated people out there working menial jobs that have nothing to do with their degree. What we're lacking are people with training in the trade skills; something a degree is not needed for.

I do not think that high-skilled, high-paid jobs should only be secured to those that have the 'privilege' to higher education.

They're not. Anyone can start a business, anyone can go to a trade skill and get a well paying blue-collared job.

We are all entitled to the pursuit of knowledge

You are absolutely correct, but college is not required to pursue knowledge.

and the right to use excellent hubs of knowledge, research, teaching and learning, and innovation [ie HE providers] to pursue such a path.

No, you're not, and no such governing document says otherwise.

Side: Higher education is a privileg
hana_m(3) Clarified
1 point

A higher education is not required, in fact I'd argue this may hinder a person from making their own decision.

There are plenty of substantial documents from intergovernmental orgs or other global institutes that support the link between higher education and democracy.

Further, if you take the example of Brexit in the UK, research has come showing a correlation between the level of education and direction voters voted. Linking that to recent reports on which side now 'regrets' their decision...Perhaps loose link, but despite your argument, there is in fact LOTS of reputable research on my claim..

In response to the 'high-skills shortage', again, based on government and consultant data/reports. Google-able.

As for 'high-skilled, high-paid jobs': again, google-able and in government research reports. Grads get paid about 10k extra and are now taking over 'traditional' jobs that do not need HE. It's an issue. But vice versa not possible.

As for next point, I did mention that there are other routes. Ie working your way up or Apprenticeship routes, so i'll leave that.

As for last point, I'm sorry but I think that centres of knowledge, libraries, etc should be publicably accessible. It's called the Open Access, Open Knowledge and Open Scholarship movement. MIT are pushing it well, for example. Government has also invested tremendously in OA. So while you say 'no you're not', I take on a less rigid mindset.

Note I'm at work so unfortunately can't send you references/bibliography, however if you want to follow it up and are having difficulty locating, i'm happy to help out : )

Side: Higher education is a privileg
2 points

It's your right to get what you have paid for and to have what you have worked for. It's a privilege to get something (honorably) that someone else has paid for.

Thus, higher education is a right for some and a privilege for others. People who have covered their own bills are not likely to agree that they received a privilege. Though those who have received the privilege are likely to claim it is a right.

Side: Higher education is a right
hana_m(3) Clarified
0 points

not a support or dispute, just wanted to say...interesting...

Side: Higher education is a privileg