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How Many Dimensions do Atheists Perceive? Then Can a Sixth Sense Exist?

Do Atheist have perception? No Soul, No Spirit, Five Senses. 
Hmm. You can't have these other gifts that are Spiritual Dimension. So are you vacant programmed robots? 
Fun! Sign us up, sounds really appealing, not!

What's it like to be ruled by textbooks? 
One dimensional, two dimensional max!
Soulless, no spirit sounds like a dry and thirsty place to be. 

Is there NO other dimension? That's the way you want it, so it is! 

Who wants to be without soul, and absent of spirit? The place of living, feeling, touching more than with your hands. That's a pretty crappie deal if you ask me!

How did everyone get so one or two dimensional? Does everyone live in a flat world? There is no intuition or sensitivity to all the other dimensions around everyone, you all look digitally programmed.

FYI, that is the mark of the beast. It’s a mark on the frontal lobes as “on their foreheads.” It’s a mind unable to draw from their other dimmmension, perception, other senses. Then taste smell, etc…

That's the mark of the beast. A sealed shut mind that can’t understand or percieve anything outside of what's in front of them in a text book by an all powerful educator to mimic!
Everyone is being pulled down, falling out of higher dimensions.

That was the fall, and you guys are falling to only one dimension.

You are all de-evolving

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7 points

What's it like to be ruled by textbooks?

Do you really think you have the better track record when it comes to being ruled by a book? Lunatic.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
2 points

No I have a better track record of being bigger than a bag of assembled dead bones, waiting for worms to eat my blanket of flesh at the end of my short lived days!

I reach higher with perception, bags of bones cannot!

Cartman(18192) Disputed
3 points

No I have a better track record of being bigger than a bag of assembled dead bones,

You don't though. You believe the exact same thing as a whole bunch of dead bones over the last 2000 years.

waiting for worms to eat my blanket of flesh at the end of my short days!

Yeah, waiting for an imaginary God that you don't really believe in is sooooooo much better.

I reach higher with perception, bags of bones cannot!

If you reach higher with perception why have you not used any of your perception on this website?

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

A text book is limited by its content. The Book that rules me goes beyond limitations of thought.

It's the 90 % of unused thought, whereas most people use signicantly less than 10 % of their brains.

Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

The idea that people only use 10% of their brain has been found to be untrue. Is there anything you know from this century?

MundiVeritas(10) Disputed
1 point

That's factually incorrect; a common misconception, if you will. There is neural activity throughout the brain.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Nonsense from a textbook is still nonsense

Authoritative academia has fed you materials designed to control your thinking. And not truth. And absurd.

Randomness did not create, you need information to make DNA.

Evolution takes more faith in nothing and Randomness then faith needed for belief in God. At least you can prove God with common sense and reasoning. Evolution is ridiculous!

If evolution were true we would have life forms sprouting out of nothing all day.

What is it like hair dye, it stopped after it evolved so far because nothing is intelligent?

And aside from changing properties for adaptation there is only things growing with an intelligent designer. Scientists putting together to make. That's still not random nothing!

Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

The Bible was invented to control people. That's the actual purpose of the Bible.

Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

The strawman of evolution that you have created would of course take faith because you are describing what is in the Bible.

3 points

The End of the Rainbow for the Decieved Atheist

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"all my Atheist friends.

Let us stop sugar coating it. I know, it’s hard to come out and be blunt with the friendly Theists who frequent sites like this. However in your efforts to “play nice” and “be civil” you actually do them a great disservice.

We are Atheists. We believe that the Universe is a great uncaused, random accident. All life in the Universe past and future are the results of random chance acting on itself. While we acknowledge concepts like morality, politeness, civility seem to exist, we know they do not.

Our highly evolved brains imagine that these things have a cause or a use, and they have in the past, they’ve allowed life to continue on this planet for a short blip of time.

But make no mistake: all our dreams, loves, opinions, and desires are figments of our primordial imagination.

They are fleeting electrical signals that fire across our synapses for a moment in time. They served some purpose in the past. They got us here. That’s it.

All human achievement and plans for the future are the result of some ancient, evolved brain and accompanying chemical reactions that once served a survival purpose.

Ex: I’ll marry and nurture children because my genes demand reproduction, I’ll create because creativity served a survival advantage to my ancient ape ancestors, I’ll build cities and laws because this allowed my ape grandfather time and peace to reproduce and protect his genes.

My only directive is to obey my genes. Eat, sleep, reproduce, die. That is our bible.

We deride the Theists for having created myths and holy books. We imagine ourselves superior.

But we too imagine there are reasons to obey laws, be polite, protect the weak etc. Rubbish. We are nurturing a new religion, one where we imagine that such conventions have any basis in reality.

Have they allowed life to exist?

Absolutely. But who cares?

Outside of my greedy little gene’s need to reproduce, there is nothing in my world that stops me from killing you and reproducing with your wife.

Only the fear that I might be incarcerated and thus be deprived of the opportunity to do the same with the next guy’s wife stops me.

Some of my Atheist friends have fooled themselves into acting like the general population. They live in suburban homes, drive Toyota Camrys, attend school plays.

But underneath they know the truth. They are a bag of DNA whose only purpose is to make more of themselves. So be nice if you want. Be involved, have polite conversations, be a model citizen.

Just be aware that while technically an Atheist, you are an inferior one. You’re just a little bit less evolved, that’s all. When you are ready to join me, let me know, I’ll be reproducing with your wife.

I know it’s not PC to speak so bluntly about the ramifications of our beliefs, but in our discussions with Theists we sometimes tip toe around what we really know to be factual. Maybe it’s time we Atheists were a little more truthful and let the chips fall where they may.

At least that’s what my genes are telling me to say.”"

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http://coldcasechristianity.com/2014/the-inevitable-consequence-of-an-atheistic-worldview/

Christ, these posts are becoming increasingly unhinged.

KNHav(1957) Clarified
1 point

Well if atheists do not think there is any reality other than their basic 5 senses, and their biology. Isn't what I said an appropriate conclusion? Did you ever hear a true atheist tell of their obedience to their biology?

Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

Isn't what I said an appropriate conclusion?

No. Nothing you ever say is the appropriate conclusion.

IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
1 point

No, I'm really, utterly sick of people such as yourself trying to project so much nonsense on atheists, as if they were some unified group with a system of belief.

They don't believe there is a god, that's it. That's literally the only unifying factor among them. Everything else you try to pin on them comes across as incredibly ignorant and downright mean spirited.

SlapShot(2608) Clarified
1 point

Her posts indeed become more unhinged and zealous as the evening progresses and she gets more drunk. Check out the time of her posts and the increasing craziness to confirm this theory of mine. I've already done the math a few times over the past couple months.

SS

KNHav(1957) Disputed
0 points

http://www.khouse.org/articles/2003/492/

For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it. - Exodus 20:11

It is undeniable that God intended us to understand that it was, indeed, six literal days.

So how do we deal with the common understanding that "billions of years" was involved?

How do we deal with the astronomical distances of millions of "light years" between the galaxies of the universe?

Can anyone familiar with the discoveries of modern science take the Genesis account seriously?

It may come as a pleasant surprise to discover that the more you know about modern science - the real physics, not the mythology and conjectures that masquerade as "science" - the more you can take the Biblical text seriously.

The Lord always rewards the diligent. (A recent book includes articles by fifty top scientists - from many different fields of specialization - who declare why they believe in a literal six-day creation.

7 The Nature of Time

One of the many advantages that 20th century science has given us is that, thanks to Dr. Albert Einstein's brilliant discoveries, we now know that time is a physical property and is subject to mass, acceleration, and gravity. We have come to realize that we live in a four-dimensional continuum properly known as "space-time."

(This is what Paul seems to imply in his letter to the Ephesians!

8 It is interesting that when one takes the apparent 1012 expansion factor involved in the theories of the "expanding universe," that an assumed 16 billion years reduce to six days!

Furthermore, the astronomical timetables now seem to be entirely overturned with the reluctant acknowledgments that the speed of light is not longer regarded as the constant that the high priests of physics had been previously convinced of.

The Nature of Light

Not only have recent scientific articles highlighted the discoveries that the speed of light has changed over the centuries (something that Barry Setterfield has been declaring for decades) the very nature of light has ripped open the entire world of quantum physics that has shattered our concepts of reality itself.

The changes in the velocity of light not only impacts our understanding of the astronomical distances and properties, it affects the atomic behavior involved in the red shift of spectra, the reliability of radiological dating, etc.

It is the peculiar properties of photons themselves that continue to astonish the quantum physicists wrestling with the very nature of our physical existence. It is now recognized that subatomic particles lack a property known as "locality." All subatomic particles are now understood to be immediately connected. There is a simultaneity - a "non-locality" - among all photons that has been confirmed in the laboratory. It now appears that our entire universe may actually be a gigantic hologram of some kind.

9 The Fabric of Space

Most of us assume that space is simply an empty vacuum with nothing "in it." However, it is increasingly evident that even empty space has astonishing properties that have yet to be fully understood.

We now know that this "firmament," (raqia ) which the Scripture presents, possesses electromagnetic properties including dielectric permittivity, magnetic permeability, an intrinsic impedance,

10 and has an astonishing "zero-point" energy sufficient to keep all the electrons in the entire universe in their orbits.

11 The term "stretching the heavens" appears at least 17 times in the Scriptures.

12 According to the Scriptures, the heavens can be "torn,"

13 "worn out" like a garment,

14 "shaken,"

15 "burnt up,"

16 "split apart" like a scroll,

17 rolled up" like a mantle

18 or a scroll.

19 The concept of being "rolled up" carries some additional insights. There must be some dimension in which space is "thin." If space can be "bent," there must be a direction it can be bent toward.

Thus, this tells us that there must be additional dimensions beyond those of space itself. It is now understood that we live in even more than four dimensions: ten dimensions is the current estimate (which is precisely what Nachmonides concluded in his commentary on Genesis back in the 13th century!)

The more we understand from the current perspectives of modern physics, the more comfortable we are with the chronicle in Genesis One.

The Architecture of the Solar System

The more we study our solar system, the more questions get raised. Here, too, the prevailing assumptions that are broadly taught are totally specious.

The "Nebular Hypothesis," that the planets were somehow thrown off by the sun, is mathematically untenable. There is no plausible explanation that would support a solar origin of the planets.

The sun contains 99.86% of all the mass of the solar system, and yet contains only 1.9% of the angular momentum.

The nine planets contain 98.1%.

Furthermore, the outer planets are far larger than the inner ones. (Jupiter is 5,750 times as massive as mercury, 2,958 times as massive as Mars, etc.)

There are many other provocative enigmas concerning our planetary history:

o There are three pairs of rapid-spin rates among our planets: Mars and Earth, Jupiter and Saturn, and Neptune and Uranus, are each within 3% of each other. Why?

o Earth and Mars have virtually identical spin axis tilts (about 23.5). Why?

(From angular momentum and orbital calculations, it would seem that the three pairs of these planets may have been brought here from elsewhere.)

o Why does Mars have 93% of its craters in one hemisphere and only 7% in the other?

It would appear that over 80% occurred within a single half-hour!

It's almost as if God designed it to challenge any naturalistic hypotheses!

"Evening" and "Morning"?

The Hebrew terms, Erev,and Boker, now refer to "evening" and "morning" but their origins remain obscure.

Erev designates obscuration, mixture (increasing entropy).

The time when encroaching darkness begins to deny the ability to discern forms, shapes, and identities; thus, it becomes a term for twilight or evening.

20 This also marks the duration of impurity, when a ceremonially unclean person became clean again,

21 and thus, the beginning of the Hebrew day.

Boker is a designation for becoming discernible, distinguishable, visible; perception of order; relief of obscurity (decreasing entropy). It thus is associated with being able to begin to discern forms, shapes, and distinct identities; breaking forth of light; revealing; hence, denotatively, dawn, morning. (As traditional designations for the Hebrew day, technically it would seem to only designate the nighttime hours, but it is used connotatively for the entire calendar day.)

It is noteworthy that neither of these are recorded on the seventh day, and thus their original significance may have been to designate the increments of creation.

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Do we have the sense to say fruit trees, night and day, and an earth with an atmosphere and liquid water requires a sun?

that startlight traveling billions of light years takes more than 6,000 years?

that birds didn't exist before land animals?

that you can't say two completely different things with your last breath?

KNHav(1957) Disputed
0 points

I didn't actually say that. I think the blob of star dust from his fall was used to make earth. Or God placed the raw form of earth to catch his fall and star dust was in the dust when God made man. Keep up. It's not that complicated.

1 point

I think the blob of star dust from his fall was used to make earth. Or God placed the raw form of earth to catch his fall and star dust was in the dust when God made man.

A) wha?

B) how does that relate to anything I pointed out?

It's not that complicated.

It's simply nonsense.

MundiVeritas(10) Disputed
1 point

We have a very good understanding of how our Solar System formed, with mountains of evidence and mathematical proofs to prove it. It would be beneficial to you if you expanded your knowledge and learned some Cosmology.

Supporting Evidence: Accretion Disk (en.wikipedia.org)
2 points

What's it like to be ruled by a non-existent imaginary best friend whom you call god?

What's it like to be ruled by a Bronze Age collection of Hebrew Mythology?

And what's it like for you when that same absentee god you worship has never shown his face to you? Or for that matter, done ANYthing for you? Other then, of course, serve as an emotional placebo?

Funny that you mentioned robots. I alwsy thought those glazed-eyed religious zealots like those laughable TV preachers and those snake handler babblers looked like robots.

Being free from worshiping by fake gods and being constrained by religious and superstitious nonsense, us atheist actually enjoy far more freedom than you will ever know.

Knowledge is power. As is understanding the world and the Cosmos. And nature. And our place in it.

I continue to find it absolutely hilarious how as the evening progresses and you get drunker and drunker sitting at your computer drinking cheap Chianti, that your posts get more and more psychotic sounding.

Is hubby doing ALL the real estate business these days? I'm sure your marriage is going splendidly, too.

Hmm..maybe you can pray on it?

LOL

SS

KNHav(1957) Disputed
0 points

I think we are finding God is proven and confirmed.

As we take the Bible both literally and spiritually, interpreting as taught by the Word itself, and also with the Holy Spirit within us, as truth unfolds and is further revealed, science will find themselves dumb at God's revelation of science in His Word.

And we all will look upon them and wonder, " How did they fit both feet in their mouth while their heads were up their asses? That will look beastly for sure!

Any discrepancies are on the readers part, not on the authors part.

1 The field of biology has now discovered it is restricted by the boundary conditions of the information sciences. Its historical love affair with Darwinism is now being shattered by advances in microbiology, highlighted by the disturbing revelations of Michael Denton, Philip Johnson, and Michael Behe, et al., revealing biology's apparent immunity to truth and reason.

2 But now the field of physics, too, is in turmoil. Quantum physics has resulted in the abandonment of causality, the cornerstone of empirical science. And whether we address the units of length, mass, or time, we discover that they are composed of indivisible units that ultimately cannot be divided without losing their "locality."

3 The more one knows about particle physics and quantum mechanics, the more provocative these "science fiction" episodes become. Indeed, it was Dr. Albert Einstein that admitted,

People who believe in physics, know that the distinction between the past, present, and the future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.

And as physics goes, so too the entire field of cosmology. I believe it was Paul Davies who observed, It is as if our entire universe is nothing more than a thought in the Mind of God.

The current genre of virtual reality films, while still retaining many of the moral deficiencies that have come to characterize the products of our entertainment industry, can still be provocative and useful in conceptualizing our present situation: we find ourselves in what can be accurately described as a digital simulation.

And transitions in and out of our space-time - from one "hyperspace" to another - is a potential rationalization of the more disturbing UFO reports and other apparent visits from dimensionalities other than our own.

It is also a way of conceptualizing the strangest transition of all: the harpazo, the "Great Snatch," which Paul alludes to in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-53.

(A "twinkling of an eye" is not to be confused with a blink; at the speed of light passing through the retina, it is about 10-43 seconds - the very digital boundary of time itself.)

2 points

Theists and nontheiesta obviously have very similar sense experience, the difference is the conclusions we draw from them. Somehow you have concluded from your experiences that you have this thing you call a soul and that there is some spiritual dimension to existence. Unfortunately, I have not been blessed with any experiences that would lead me to a remotely similar conclusions. Why would God choose to allow you to explore these added dimensions, but deny them to me? My suspicion is that you are drawing more conclusions from your experience than is truly justified. I suspect these added dimensions do not exists and you are simply defending dark age myths because of social conditioning. I can't be sure since you subjective experience is inaccessible to me. But if I am wrong, my questions still stands: why did God give you access to the supernatural realm but deny it to me?

1 point

Wow, no ora, no sixth sense, no premonitions, no perception, no dreams, no visions, no understanding, only academia, only driven by your biolgyical requirement, survival, and dominance. No feelings, no emotions, only those convenient to ones biology. Love doesn't exist, it can't. There is no spirit or soul. So they can't be real, only tricks of your mind to feed you basic instinct.

You are mere animals programmed by the demands of your biology. That is all you are, because that is all you can be.

So pardon me for not being interested, it doesn't sound at all appealing to me!

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

no understanding, only academia,

These 2 things don't make any sense together.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Yes they do you can equate, and in a linear way conclude.

That is NOT understanding.

You can't understand when you live without soul and spirit. You can only reason on a linear dimension, and that is NOT understanding.

Do you understand?

1 point

What atheists can see is straight through your superstition and threats. Which is further than you yourself can see.....................................................

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

So how do you percieve anything?

What cell cluster gives discernment?

What makes you feel when someone is staring at you?

Or the uncomfortable feeling when someone secretly intends harm? Are you spiritual or just biology?

You can't have it both ways!

If you want to be a spiritual human than there is more.

If you don't then there can't be more, it's not possible.

Grenache(6053) Disputed
1 point

Going back to SyFy, an analogy to your argument is either you watch Sharknado and believe it enough that there's possibly more to enrich your life, or you turn the channel or turn the TV off completely and then bummer there can't possibly be a Sharknado.

sylynn(626) Disputed
1 point

What cell cluster gives discernment?

The frontal lobe of the brain

What makes you feel when someone is staring at you?

That would be the superior temporal sulcus

Or the uncomfortable feeling when someone secretly intends harm?

A simple defense mechanism developed through evolution for survival purposes

1 point

We live in many dimensions, unless your an atheist, they apparently don't have a Spirit or soul. So emotion follows only their biological demands. There is only biology to the atheist. So what ever they are programed by, is their code.

We have an ora, a sixth sense, we recieve premonitions, perception, discernment, dreams, visons, understanding.

It comes from God in the spiritual dimension. But Satan perverts it in sorcery and astrology. God calls this spiritualism an abomination.

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Gypsee(347) Disputed
1 point

Atheism consists on the absence in the belief of gods. It has nothing to do lack of spirit or soul. Homme est un etre pensant. Cogito ergo Sum.

I can agree that some people understand the fields of psychology a lot better than others. However, believing in God doesn't make you more or less capable.

Psychology is a subject that goes outside our world of phenomena. It explores a world of Id, Ego and Superego (according to Fraud). These are intangible entities that cannot be tested in traditional ways. It is world were most things cannot be explained and if they can it can only be your own truth.

I believe that man is more than an animal: it is an animal who can think, who can believe in God, who can dream, who can predict,who is conscious of its existence. That capacity is given to every human. All Humans have a psyche. Don't think you are special because you believe in God.

Some maybe don't believe in God but believe that we have something more than what we can see or touch.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

The Spirit and soul have no anatomy, so then how do they exist?

And how do you prove they exist?

And if they are not contained as in anatomy, then where is their beginning and end? If they have no form, then how do they exist?

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

If you believe in something more you are not an atheist.

So then you believe in some kind of spirit thing.

Atheist can't have a soul if they do not believing in anything. A psychic perception is not found in biological presentation. Therefore they can only percieve what is definable by biology.

That is atheism.

1 point

Atheists perceive the Muslim faith as a Religion of Peace

Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

Actually that's the Christian liberals.

sylynn(626) Disputed
2 points

This isn't even close to what many of us think. What's your source to say otherwise?

MundiVeritas(10) Disputed
1 point

I find your generalisation to be detrimental to the position offered. AGain, to clarify, Atheism addresses a single issue: Do you, or do you not believe a God or Gods exist.

Atheism rejects the claim. It does not make any assertions of it's own. How then do do justify your claim that Atheists (Capital 'A,' so I assume you meant to generalize) hold Islam as Peaceful?

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

I am trying to show how absurd it is to believe in spiritual existence without a spiritual dimension. If there is a spiritual dimension, then wouldn't that indicate that God is more likely than not likely?

Or is it just random?!?!?

1 point

The world is a truly beautiful and wonderful place. We don't need God to make it special - although granted this is a reason that many people convert.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Where on a high mountain with beauty and scenery, or overlooking an ocean view?

Or the streets of Chicago, or the Gaza Strip? Or CNN or Fox

How low is your bar set?

Atrag(5666) Disputed
1 point

There is beauty in everything. On the Gaza Strip there is beauty in how families love each other, there is beauty in patriotism (arguably)... many things. Beauty doesn't even have to be so grand.. there is beauty in every day life.

1 point

To this generation of academia and intellect as your god and your strength, God will scoff and mock at you!

Let me fill you all in on the end of God's final work in this generation.

Who ever still can reason in their mind, should consider this and study it for yourself, test it, see if it is true.

Deceptions will be revealed soon and are right now. God is explaining and revealing like in no other time period!

He will pull off the snake scales that have covered your eyes, which you all allowed because you are an enemy of the True God. They are your own snake scales because you hardened your hearts again your Creator, and you mocked like foolish people who have no understanding at all!

He is going to make you see how absolutely stupid and foolish you all truely are, that a brain of a mouse will prove to be smarter than the smartest among you!

God is going to mock and scoff at you!

NOT because you couldn't find that which is hidden.

But because He will reveal all things to this generation, as it actually is! With no excuse for any, and no ability to deny that the TRUTH was as plain as day, and as visible ad the nose on your face!

And it will be undeniable like it's written on the back of your hand clever hand, and condemn you on your clever forhead! So clearly, that you will mock yourself and smack yourself with that hand for ALL ETERNITY!

GOD will scoff and mock at you, why?

Because you were so intelligent, so smart, so dumb!

You missed Him in the most easy and basic knowledge, elementary kindergarten intellect of a child. Even children will laugh at your calamity.

He will mock at you! The children will mock at you!

You will all be blithering stammering stupid stumbling tripping over each other idiots! Like the three stooges, no not even that smart!

As you slap yourselves silly, and smack each other with your same dumb hand!

As the simple truth condemns you all, as you look through Eternity reading your folly, your forever name on the back of your hand. Which is attached to your broken arm. An arm that has no strength at all!

That weak arm couldn't have saved you from a flea, let alone the damnation that God will deliver mockingly hurled with His arrows of mockery, reminding you every moment of your foolishness!

Your name engraved on you for head and your hand "a fool" the common name of the grave of Sheol. As Sheol mocks at you as well!

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To this generation of academia and intellect as your god and your strength, God will scoff and mock at you!

Let me fill you all in on the end of God's final work in this generation.

Who ever still can reason in their mind, should consider this and study it for yourself, test it, see if it is true.

Deceptions will be revealed soon and are right now. God is explaining and revealing like in no other time period!

He will pull off the snake scales that have covered your eyes, which you all allowed because you are an enemy of the True God. They are your own snake scales because you hardened your hearts again your Creator, and you mocked like foolish people who have no understanding at all!

He is going to make you see how absolutely stupid and foolish you all truely are, that a brain of a mouse will prove to be smarter than the smartest among you!

God is going to mock and scoff at you!

NOT because you couldn't find that which is hidden.

But because He will reveal all things to this generation, as it actually is! With no excuse for any, and no ability to deny that the TRUTH was as plain as day, and as visible ad the nose on your face!

And it will be undeniable like it's written on the back of your hand clever hand, and condemn you on your clever forhead! So clearly, that you will mock yourself and smack yourself with that hand for ALL ETERNITY!

GOD will scoff and mock at you, why?

Because you were so intelligent, so smart, so dumb!

You missed Him in the most easy and basic knowledge, elementary kindergarten intellect of a child. Even children will laugh at your calamity.

He will mock at you! The children will mock at you!

You will all be blithering stammering stupid stumbling tripping over each other idiots! Like the three stooges, no not even that smart!

As you slap yourselves silly, and smack each other with your same dumb hand!

As the simple truth condemns you all, as you look through Eternity reading your folly, your forever name on the back of your hand. Which is attached to your broken arm. An arm that has no strength at all!

That weak arm couldn't have saved you from a flea, let alone the damnation that God will deliver mockingly hurled with His arrows of mockery, reminding you every moment of your foolishness!

Your name engraved on you for head and your hand "a fool" the common name of the grave of Sheol. As Sheol mocks at you as well!

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Nebacanezzer will even mock at you! At least he turned to reason!

31 While the word was in the king’s mouth, a voice came from heaven, saying, ‘King Nebuchadnezzar, to you it is declared: sovereignty has been removed from you,

32 and you will be driven away from mankind, and your dwelling place will be with the beasts of the field. You will be given grass to eat like cattle, and seven periods of time will pass over you until you recognize that the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind and bestows it on whomever He wishes.’

33 Immediately the word concerning Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled; and he was driven away from mankind and began eating grass like cattle, and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven until his hair had grown like eagles’ feathers and his nails like birds’ claws.

34 “But at the end of that period, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven and my reason returned to me, and I blessed the Most High and praised and honored Him who lives forever;

For His dominion is an everlasting dominion,

And His kingdom endures from generation to generation.

35 “All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing,

But He does according to His will in the host of heaven

And among the inhabitants of earth;

And no one can ward off His hand

Or say to Him, ‘What have You done?’

36 At that time my reason returned to me. And my majesty and splendor were restored to me for the glory of my kingdom, and my counselors and my nobles began seeking me out; so I was reestablished in my sovereignty, and surpassing greatness was added to me.

37 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise, exalt and honor the King of heaven, for all His works are true and His ways just, and He is able to humble those who walk in pride.”

I would like to call attention to the fact that Atheism addresses a single issue: The existence of God. Atheism is simply the rejection of God claims. It does not entail any dogmas, it carries no tenets, it holds no laws or commandments. It is simply this exchange: Theist: There's a God!

Atheist: I don't believe you

You can imagine then, why I'm so mind-boggled by the assumptions and quite frankly, ridiculous beliefs that have been so liberally applied to Atheists.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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You can believe whatever you want.. if you want to debate the matter of if there is a God, then that would be a debate of openness to argue the point. If you have no interest then there is no need to debate.

MundiVeritas(10) Disputed
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I am not asserting one way or the other whether or not a God exists, nor am I suggesting we argue the point. I am clarifying that Atheism is not the claim that God doesn't exist; that would be Antitheism, Atheism is the rejection of God claims, it is not itself an assertion of the non-existence of a God or Gods.

If you're not familiar, a claim or argument has two prongs; we'll call them the "fact of the matter": Either 'A' is true, or 'A' is not true. This is a true dichotomy, and as such, the Logical Absolutes mandate that only one of them can be true. This is called the Law of Excluded Middle.

To stay on theme, you can replace "God Exists" with 'A,' but irrespective of the "fact of the matter," there remains what you believe about the claim, which obviously can be different than the facts. Theism is saying God does exist; this is a positive claim to knowledge. Antitheism says God does not exist; this is a positive claim to knowledge. Atheism says I don't believe you, prove it.

As you can see, Atheism doesn't say anything else about anything else. So the question of "How many Dimensions do Atheists perceive?" and all the ridiculous attributes we Atheists have been saddled with is quite non-sensical from a logical perspective.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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I guess you havn't talked to many then.

Which assumptions do you think are falsely made?

MundiVeritas(10) Disputed
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Any assumption other than we do not accept your God claims. Anything further; attributes, beliefs, or hindrances, are pure conjecture.

The only dimensions I'm interested in are 36''- 26''- 38''.

The perception of such feminine beauty is light years ahead of the sanctimonious drivel spewed out by unfortunate religious zealots such as you who don't realize that there is no afterlife and therefore failing to recognise the importance of enjoying yourself here on good old mother earth.

Grow up, wise up and shut up.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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If we lived in a digital simulation, are miracles possible by the author of its code?

Explain the principle of random. Does random actualy occur anywhere in nature, or in universe?

What is fictional in the Bible? Have you investigated it? Or is that an assumption?

Regarding miracles, if more is authenticated then not, and if some stories are found true, that are unlikely. Then are the miracles also possible?

My example is Joseph, the coat of many color.

It is not highly likely that a boy from the Hebrew tribe, would be sold by his brothers into slavery, then become the most exalted dignitary in Egypt.

Now, God did prophesy it to Joseph's great grandfather Abraham, along with the following 400 years of slavery.

So how does a boy beaten and sold end up a like a king in Egypt.

So was this coincidence? Without supernatural sequence of events? Two men rose up in foreign nations by interpreting dreams and visions.

Both of these men went through a series of conspiracies, persecution, unjustifiable imprisonment, to being elevated to the highest court. Joseph and then also Daniel.

But looking at Joseph, archeological finds have uncovered a timeline confirming sequential consecutive events as told in the Bible.

So historically, whether the skeptics want to admit it or not, well the finds are just visibly obvious regardless.

It falls under not understanding math again, probability of finding each lined up in order like dominoes isn't statistically possible. But I guess math is subjective and individually deterministic just like truth, 😬

So they found signs of Joseph, and the famine, and Joseph's unusual exaltation in Egypt, and the migration of his family to Egypt then etc etc etc... see Pattern of Evidence - documentary

So if these things are real, are really they just coincidences?

And if they are just coincidences, then what is the probability of it occuring? And what is the probability of several coincidences of this magnitude of unusual occurring?

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God invented math! Maybe that's why no one understands math anymore!

There are hints here and there. There are two well-known references to the creation in the Scripture:

Genesis 1: 1 and John 1: 1.

Let’s look “underneath” the text of each of these.

Genesis 1:1

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

In Hebrew:

Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew

If you examine the numerical values of each of the Hebrew letters, and the numerical value of the words (see chart), and apply them to this formula:

The number of letters x the product of the letters

The number of words x the product of the words

You get 3.1416 x 1017. The value of π to four decimal places! Hmm.

John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

In Greek:

John 1:1 in Greek

This time if you take the numerical value of each of the Greek letters (see chart), and the numerical value of the words, and apply them to the same formula:

The number of letters x the product of the letters

The number of words x the product of the words

You now get 2.7183 x 1040, the value of e.

Curious!

Why does Israel and God's Word and Jesus divide huge significant effects to everyone in the entire world, a mid point in half, like God is the center of the entire world, even the universe?

The below shows something crazy, that in no way was in the hands of an old Jewish guy to control.

We all know Jesus is so part of the destiny of the world that even TIME is divided by the knowledge of Him - A.D. and B.C.

But this is found in the ancient texts hidden.

The world and languages go from reading left to right or right to left. Most written languages were in process of developing. Like time, written language is directed like a directors chair perched in Jerusalem.

All languages EAST of Jerusalem write Right to Left.

All languages WEST of Jerusalem write Left to Right.

We have this also - torh spelled reading in two directions in Hebrew. Backward and forward with YHWY in the middle.

Are There Hidden Codes in the Biblical Text?

The secrets of the Torah are revealed... in the

skipping of the letters.

Rabbi Moses Cordevaro, 16th century

Torah Codes

49 (72) letter sequences:

• Genesis TORH - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern

• Exodus TORH - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern

• Leviticus ? YHWH in a 7 pattern, square root of 49

• Numbers HROT - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern

• Deuteronomy HROT - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern

• Leviticus (in Intervals of 7) - YHWH

The Torah Always Points to YHWH!

The Torah Codes

• Weissmandel, H. M. D., Torath Hemed, 1958.

• D. Michaelson, “Codes in the Torah,” B’OR Ha

Torah, Number 6, 1987.

• D. Witzum, E. Rips, & Y. Rosenberg, “Equidis

tant Letter Sequences in the Book of Genesis,”

Journal of the Institute of Mathematical Statis-

tics, August 1994.

• J. B. Satinover, “Divine Authorship? Computer

reveals startling word patterns,” Bible Review,

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What's it like to be ruled by textbooks?

Do you know where the content in many textbooks come from?

What are you ruled by?

That's the mark of the beast. A sealed shut mind that can’t understand or percieve anything outside of what's in front of them in a text book by an all powerful educator to mimic!

And you are any different?

Everyone is being pulled down, falling out of higher dimensions.

Maybe not, you say everyone.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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I think we are finding God is proven and confirmed.

As we take the Bible both literally and spiritually, interpreting as taught by the Word itself, and also with the Holy Spirit within us, as truth unfolds and is further revealed, science will find themselves dumb at God's revelation of science in His Word.

And we all will look upon them and wonder, " How did they fit both feet in their mouth while their heads were up their asses? That will look beastly for sure!

Any discrepancies are on the readers part, not on the authors part.

1 The field of biology has now discovered it is restricted by the boundary conditions of the information sciences. Its historical love affair with Darwinism is now being shattered by advances in microbiology, highlighted by the disturbing revelations of Michael Denton, Philip Johnson, and Michael Behe, et al., revealing biology's apparent immunity to truth and reason.

2 But now the field of physics, too, is in turmoil. Quantum physics has resulted in the abandonment of causality, the cornerstone of empirical science. And whether we address the units of length, mass, or time, we discover that they are composed of indivisible units that ultimately cannot be divided without losing their "locality."

3 The more one knows about particle physics and quantum mechanics, the more provocative these "science fiction" episodes become. Indeed, it was Dr. Albert Einstein that admitted,

People who believe in physics, know that the distinction between the past, present, and the future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.

And as physics goes, so too the entire field of cosmology. I believe it was Paul Davies who observed, It is as if our entire universe is nothing more than a thought in the Mind of God.

The current genre of virtual reality films, while still retaining many of the moral deficiencies that have come to characterize the products of our entertainment industry, can still be provocative and useful in conceptualizing our present situation: we find ourselves in what can be accurately described as a digital simulation.

And transitions in and out of our space-time - from one "hyperspace" to another - is a potential rationalization of the more disturbing UFO reports and other apparent visits from dimensionalities other than our own.

It is also a way of conceptualizing the strangest transition of all: the harpazo, the "Great Snatch," which Paul alludes to in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-53.

(A "twinkling of an eye" is not to be confused with a blink; at the speed of light passing through the retina, it is about 10-43 seconds - the very digital boundary of time itself.)