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They can't. This is how.
Debate Score:18
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How can conservatives be about liberty when they deny gay and bisexual rights?

They can't.

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This is how.

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Atrag(5666) Banned
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You wouldn't be capable of understanding the answer. Let's just say they can't okay?

Side: They can't.

It is an oxymoron for a Conservative to be for liberty yet oppose Gay Rights/Gay Marriage.

Side: They can't.

In the UK it was a conservative government that legalised gay marriage. They don't necessarily deny LGBT marriage. That is a false generalisation.

Side: This is how.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
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In America, it is the liberal Democrats who fight for gay rights, not conservative Republicans.

Side: They can't.
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But even in America are all conservatives supporters of the Republican party? Not all conservatives deny gay rights. If gay rights are so important to liberals then they shouldn't be defending the rights of Muslims.

Side: This is how.
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It sounds like you agree that American conservatives are not fighting for liberty then.

Side: This is how.
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I can't speak for all of them but it seems like they do not.

Side: This is how.
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Can you point out what rights have the conservatives denied to gays and bisexuals?

Side: This is how.
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The right to Marriage (civil right as per Loving v. Virginia) and, by extension, the rights to Due Process and Equal Protections.

Side: They can't.
VecVeltro(412) Disputed
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I'm not an american, so I don't know or care about the US justice system.

If we operate from formal legal theory, then there is no discrimination. Gays can still get married to a member of the opposite sex, and nobody will deny them that right simply for being gay. It's just that gays are not interested in exercising this right. In the same way, heterosexuals cannot get married to the same sex as well. Therefore, there is no discrimination.

Under the banner of equal treatment, gays are asking for the creation of a totally new right - the right to marry a member of the same sex.

I can't comment on due process and equal protection, cuz I don't know shit about the US legal system.

Side: This is how.