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How can you test the existence of God?

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You can't.

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5 points

Kill yourself.

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Good idea. I need to tell Intangible this. Maybe he will find some sort of afterlife for dummies.

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3 points

Don't bother... he's too busy Point Farming.

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Get a large group of homosexuals in a concentrated area and see if a tornado shows up.

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I think there are more than 1,000,000 homosexuals in California. I haven't seen much yet.

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We can test the existence of God by testing His patience ;)

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I had an old youth pastor who's friend was atheist and my youth pastor told him to test God. Now his friend was kind of cautious on testing God. So my old youth pastor told him to start tithing and giving money to God. So he decided to do that, and after awhile when he started tithing, he started getting more money and things that have been going great for him.

So one thing to test the existence of God is by tithing.

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Has this been tested for legitimacy? Like do you have any evidence to support that or is this just a story?

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Others have tested this when they gave to God more they received more from Him.

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Warjin(1577) Disputed
2 points

tithing:

To tithe is to freely give one-tenth of one's income annually to the Lord through His Church. (Just looked up that word, did I read this right? )

Wait a cotton picking minute, do you mean giving money to God? are you pulling my leg? lol

When does God need money or why for that matter?

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4 points

Well, you see God needs money.

Supporting Evidence: Tell it George (m.youtube.com)
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Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

When does God need money or why for that matter?

God expects Christians to tithe because it's another way of worshiping Him and God told Christians to tithe because that's what it says in the Bible. It reminds us that all of the resources that Christians have aren't there's but Gods because God provided them through His grace. So basically we are paying back God on what He gave to us and provided.

God can use the money that Christians tithe to their local churches. One of the many ways he can do so is by using the money for tithing they can send people to do missionary work in different countries and they use that money to help plant churches in various different countries, spread the Gospel, feed and help the poor and care for orphans.

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Nebeling(1117) Disputed
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In order for this to be a good test you have to rule out alternative, reasonable explanations and sheer coincidence. One explanation that comes to mind is that sympathetic, altruistic people are in general happier. This has been proven. By giving away his money his attitude towards other people have changed, making him more charismatic and therefore giving him an edge in whatever he is doing.

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lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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The issue is that one cannot give anything to God, unless a Christian.

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Now why is that if you don't mind me asking? I would assume that God would be open about these things.

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Srom(12206) Disputed
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Really? I thought you could be able to test that if you weren't a Christian. That's what my old youth pastor told me about his friend.

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hijodeganas(19) Disputed
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I don't see how that would be irrefutable proof of God's existence. How would you rule out pure coincidence?

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This is why millions of children endure unspeakable suffering on a daily basis. God doesn't give a shit about them because they can't afford the protection money.

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Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

He does. That is why there are missionaries that go to different places in the world to go help build churches and to help people who are suffering. But I guess if Christian missionaries go out and help the millions of children that means nothing to you and that must really mean to you that God doesn't give a crap.

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Solomonsston(40) Clarified
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i gave a way half a million.

Made 3 millionaires.

and now im broke almost homeless, and hardly making it by on what left of friends i have.

tell me how is giving money to a sanctuary of religion going to help me? my church loved me be when they notice my money has gone the love for me started to die.

i did not tell the people i gave the money, that it was me. and its not the act of giving money. its more about giving people money so that they can build your rep up.. keep your money. save it. one day you will have a family and wish that, that half a million that you gave a way; you had back to help your kids get to that collage that they want to get into.

Not my own words

but a close friend of mine.

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GuitarGuy(6096) Clarified
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Lol sounds like your youth pastor scammed that guy!

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Just shout "olly olly oxen free!" If he doesn't come out of hiding then he doesn't exist :)

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I don't think that would draw him out lol. I think you need to like insult or damage a church or something.

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
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LittleMisfit has insulted many churches, it hasn't worked so far. I don't know about his church damage policy. ;)

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Collect 74 pigs and/or goats, drain the blood from them and then use all of the blood to make 113ft in diameter pentagram on a marble canvass.

Now...what we are doing here is making an attempt to release Lucifer from his icy prison at the bottom of hell.

What you need to do is, take a knife and make 4 inch incisions on the soles of your feet and palms of your hands, this is to show respect to Lord Lucifer.

Now...stand in the center of the pentagram and chant the words...

Miguwa tataous abscorum vexa.

Emrulliem czuryk goram Satan.

Every time you chant this it will weaken the shackles that oppress Lucifer. God will become aware of this and attempt to intervene.

~Warning!~

Theritualmayfailandyoumaybecomepossessedbyademonthatwill killallofyourlovedonesandthendragyoursoulbacktothedepthsofhellwithit.

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Now...what we are doing here is making an attempt to release Lucifer from his icy prison at the bottom of hell.

I could have sworn that it's supposed to be flaming hot down there.

Now...stand in the center of the pentagram and chant the words...

Miguwa tataous abscorum vexa.

Emrulliem czuryk goram Satan.

I have drawn many pentagrams before. Nothing has ever happened. We have played with a Ouija board and nothing has happened. Why would it work now?

Every time you chant this it will weaken the shackles that oppress Lucifer. God will become aware of this and attempt to intervene.

Yes, because man can break chains made by an omnipotent deity.

~Warning!~

Theritualmayfailandyoumaybecomepossessedbyademonthatwill killallofyourlovedonesandthendragyoursoulbacktothedepthsofhellwithit

I most certain know that it cannot.

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Intangible(4934) Disputed
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I could have sworn that it's supposed to be flaming hot down there.

Then you know nothing of hell. The lower you go, the colder it gets. At the bottom is the coldest, because God's burning light does not reach.

I have drawn many pentagrams before. Nothing has ever happened. We have played with a Ouija board and nothing has happened. Why would it work now?

That's not even the same thing.

Yes, because man can break chains made by an omnipotent deity.

The chant was created by Lucifer to have that effect.

I most certain know that it cannot.

You have not even tried it. So, you most certainly do not know.

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If God is omnipresent then we ought to experience him everywhere. So the test would be to see if God is evident when one clears all thoughts and ideas about reality from one's mind.

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Go to a church and point this at the priest as he speaks, also works when sat on a bible. This is the only scientifically accurate way of telling if God is real.

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Jump off a bridge, pray to go to heaven if you believe in God...O wait you'll probably die.

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First, you would have to come up with a clear and comprehensible definition of what God is. From there you could gather whether or not empirical evidence would suffice (Can you see him? Measure him?) and, if not, by what other means you could go about testing him. For example, is there a way to make a distinction between natural phenomenon and supernatural? If so, what is it? Then you go out and test it.

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I asked Satan if he would take my soul in order to allow me power to rule over the lands. Nothing has yet to happen. Knowing everything has a balance, and that Satan doesn't exist... god shouldn't either. If Satan truly existed and was depicted like he is through religious bull shit, my soul would be gone. It isn't, or at least i don't think it is. (No sarcasm.)

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GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
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I think Satan is merely a term to describe the "evil" inside all of us. The problem is that people consider him to be a literal being.

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lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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Everyone's soul has been given over to Satan. We are Satan's until God gives a new nature and faith in Himself.

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Kite626(714) Disputed
2 points

You know this how... ?

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link6065(740) Disputed
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I thought Jesus died for our sins so we could be forgiven and spend eternity with him and the Father in heaven?

Everyone's soul has been given over to Satan. We are Satan's until God gives a new nature and faith in Himself.

lmfao you haven't changed a bit LOLZORS. You're still a complete twat with an overinflated ego with an unrealistic vision of self importance.

and as for a real argument. I say look at the atom. The fundamental creator of all matter. To me that is Godly. It creates everything and God is the creator. To me there's a link in the chain.

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Its really not as hard to do as people think it is.

you dont need tech

you dont need to be a master at sciencey stuff

you dont have to be a major philosopher

you dont hate to time travel

You just kinda have to question it.

Think about it for a sec.

what is "God"?

Where is it?

Why does it not like the human race?

If he was around like a thousand + years ago, why is he not with us now?

what did we do wrong?

If your saying God is everything around us and in everything. then that makes god the chair i sit on. the house i live in and the toilet i shit in. now last i checked hes kinda a purity freak. so i dont think the toilet. but if he is everything then he has to be my poo and myself as well.

So saying the "holy one" is your shit is well not so grate. Since the all powerful being can be reduced down to shit. ill pass on paying to a shit factor. since i make it all the time ^_^.

God hates humans. just look at history. he made us dum and though a few hundreds of generations. we got how to make fire.

Oh Adam was the first man!

My bad i missed that part.

Wait no.

i thought there was a lady before him....?

and who did his sones have kids with? but really think about that. ok fine there names are in there but.... where did they come from??? Adam?? naahhh it would have said it.... right?

we Base our belief off of one book. written by a man. the book even says who wrote it, Moses. sure he had some followers. but so do i on twitter. what makes him so grate and why did he start this?

oh the jews. yeah a slave nation that became kingly. yeah thats how that works. but only through the order of god to murder everyone that had lived in the "holy Land", in the past....thats how they got the land.. i think its ok. since well the Romans and practically everyone did it. right?

if God is so perfect then why is he sooo not? if anything he is a grate story in a book that people toke to be legit... like they will with harry potter.

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hijodeganas(19) Disputed
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THIS is precisely why you have to do more than "just kinda question it"...

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Solomonsston(40) Clarified
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Um yeah no its called critical thinking. If any one person is able to think all on there own. They would start to see that life is the same with or with out. Unless I'm misunderstanding u

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I don't think you can, no matter what level of technology, I don't see how, but I could be wrong, maybe some day we will have the means of technology and gain solid proof one way or another, but as of right now no, God only exist though faith.

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3 points

Lol.

I'm not even going to post an argument here; I just want to take a moment for the pure lol.

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Then what was the use of wasting space on my debate then? Why not just post nothing at all?

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2 points

Because the only response I can give to an idea this irrational is an equally irrational spate of hysteric laughter.

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Just as likely as testing the existence of magic little elves that live in my shoes when no one is around.

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Just as likely as testing the existence of magic little elves that live in my shoes when no one is around.

So he's there, but you will never see him...

Makes sense.

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No materiel to observe and measure. No rules God cannot break. Operating under its own, inscrutible understandings. Immune to testing unless it wishes to be. And God seems to only allow this under circumstances which are impossible to prove.

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You can't and here's why. Not because its impossible because I don't think we even know what our limitations are even when investigating spacetime and the Big Bang itself. The reason why is that no matter what theists will push god just beyond our reach. The evidence of this is already present. First gods were in nature and animals. We found out more about animals and found no gods or supernatural aspects. So then gods were moves up to the clouds and mountains. Well we then discovered things about clouds and climbed those mountains. No gods there. Well then they tell us they're up in space. We gaze up into space and even fly there, no gods. See the trend here? So where we are now (what the mainstream theist belief is) is that god is outside of time and even reality in some cases. They stuck him outside of where we can reach once more.

Which brings me full circle. I don't know what we may be capable of in the future but lets say we probe through time and deconstruct reality and figure out ever bit and bob and check every corner of it and report back no sign of god. Well did we disprove him? No. He gets pushed back into some alternate dimension. Once again just beyond our reach.

Disproving god isn't possible because of the nature of god, it's impossible because of the nature of thiests.

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