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How did we have war and violent crime before guns

Leftists

Side Score: 2
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Muslims

Side Score: 2
2 points

A parody of this fucking corrupt little idiot's (deliberately) false logic:-

How did we have explosions before nuclear bombs?

Oh, we did have them?

Well, therefore nuclear bombs are safe. Let's sell them in corner shops and supermarkets.

Shut up Bronto. You're a completely fucking corrupt little prick who would say anything for money.

Side: Leftists
1 point

....Leftists as we know them didn't even exist before the invention of the gun. The liberals at that time were likely the classical liberals in favor of what libertarians of today are aligned with.

And Christians civilizations were some of the most violent societies compared to societies today.

But sure fundamental Islam is problematic and violent and must be eradicated.

Side: Muslims
1 point

Well, Muslim terrorists tend to favour bombs but throughout history the warring tribes/clans and nations of the world have been most ingenious in developing a mind boggling array of weapons with which to slaughter each other.

Of course the point you're making is that it isn't weapons which kill, but the operators who use them.

Well, this is, in many ways a reasonable supposition except that in America, where gun availability/ownership is the greatest in the western world also has the highest rates of mass-shootings in the world.

I feel that anyone who considers this issue dispassionately should be able to see the correlation.

Side: Muslims