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Challenge Debate: IS GOD A MORAL MONSTER

CHRISAPOLLO(7)

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TheZoo(19)

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Creates everything from nothing. Creates man and woman and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Because god is omniscient and knows everything before it will happen, he knows that they will eat from the tree before he even creates the tree or Adam and Eve. He creates them anyways (nevermind also creating Satan, knowing he will fall from grace and tempt eve into eating of the tree). From this we can deduce that he must have intended for Adam and Eve to eat from the tree. It is impossible for an omniscient and omnipotent being to create something that happens and NOT intend for it to happen. That would be a contradiction.

You cant know what will happen ahead of time, set things up that way, and then absolve yourself of the results.

So God intentionally caused the fall of man. Not only does he punish adam and eve but every single descendant of them as well. Thats abhorrent. Punishing the great great great 50x greats grandkids of adam and eve who broke god's law is abhorrent enough. But punishing them for adam and eve's crime which god himself orchestrated?

Its like a parent taking a hammer to their own TV and then blaming the kid for it AND their grandchildren and every descendant thereafter.

It makes absolutely no sense. And i know the likely response is trying to draw some line of separation between god's morals and man's morals and how god has some infinitely higher morality that we cant possibly understand and blah blah blah that somehow makes this obvious moral conundrum okay.

Just know out of the gate i reject the bible as true and i reject god's morality as anything more than an extension of man's own morality projected onto a god.

So thats basically my opening argument. We dont even have to get into god's laws or the books of the bible or the commandments or any of that. Because i reject the entire moral basis for the founding story of the judeo christian tradition.

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