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It IS Obama wasn't BORN here
Debate Score:27
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IS left wing HATRED of Trump, the same as right wing HATRED of Obama?


It IS

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Obama wasn't BORN here

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IS left wing HATRED of Trump, the same as right wing HATRED of Obama

Not really because libs used to love Trump. Cons never loved Obama.

Side: It IS
ArchonElite(335) Disputed
2 points

Not really because libs used to love Trump.

libs are basically less extremist and less stupid conservatives, but they are still in the same ballpark. No one on the true left ever liked Trump.

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Bronto(2002) Disputed
2 points
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jamesbody(80) Disputed
1 point

Not really because libs used to love Trump.

That's a fairly sweeping statement. Interviewed them all have you? Collected the results and not a single dissenter? Oh no, my mistake. You're just talking out of your arse, as usual.

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Bronto(2002) Disputed
2 points

Except that we have video and pictures of the same libs that now hate him, loving him in the past. We also have Con saying he "loved Trump before he had this power".

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ IS leftwingHATREDofTrumpthesameasrightwingHATREDofObama#arg953304

Hello bront:

Nahh.. I LOVED Trump when the MOST he could do was FIRE Meatloaf. But, now that he can SPLIT the country right down the middle over a stupid wall, not so much..

https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c crop,dplaceholdereuli9k,h1439,w2560,x0,y0/dpr2.0/climit,w740/fllossy,qauto/v1492115003/articles/2016/03/17/the-wedding-that-explains-the-election/160316-daly-trump-clinton-tease_eyaact

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excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

Not really because libs used to love Trump.

Hello bront:

Nahh.. I LOVED Trump when the MOST he could do was FIRE Meatloaf. But, now that he can SPLIT the country right down the middle over a stupid wall, not so much..

excon

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Bronto(2002) Disputed
2 points

Nahh.. I LOVED Trump when the MOST he could do was FIRE Meatloaf. But, now that he can SPLIT the country right down the middle over a stupid wall, not so much..

It wasn't him that split it, was it Con? He took the libs' position and they switched real quick.

Nahh.. I LOVED Trump when the MOST he could do was FIRE Meatloaf.

So did a lot of libs.

Come now Con. We both know reality here. If he were a Democrat we'd be told how neccessary the wall was and that the things happening at the border have been happening for decades, and libs would just go on about their business, bragging about the economy and laughing at Conservatives. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC would be narrating that things were just fine.

I can see it now. I'll show you the headlines if Trump were a Democrat President.

Dow hits record close for 15th time in 2018 as solid economic data bolster confidence

Dow hits all-time high on optimism about Trump’s trade deals

Thanks to Trump, China's economy is rapidly decelerating -- Here's what could happen next

Trump has set economic growth on fire. Here is how he did it

Entering year 3: Trump’s economy better than Obama’s, jobs highest in decades

Unemployment drops to lowest level since 1969

Yes, Illegal Immigration Hurts American Workers

U.S. Added 250,000 Jobs in October; Unemployment at 3.7%

Instead, we have to see nonsensical bullshit like this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/01/21/opinion/trump-reagan-economy.amp.html

Or these beauties:

Russian Hackers Invaded the U.S. Electricity Grid to Deny Vermonters Heat During the Winter

Trump Aide Anthony Scaramucci is Involved in a Russian Hedge Fund Under Senate Investigation

Russia Attacked U.S. “Diplomats” (i.e. Spies) at the Cuban Embassy Using a Super-Sophisticated Sonic Microwave Weapon

Trump Created a Secret Internet Server to Covertly Communicate with a Russian Bank

Paul Manafort Visited Julian Assange Three Times in the Ecuadorian Embassy

Robert Mueller Possesses Internal Emails and Witness Interviews Proving Trump Directed Cohen to Lie to Congress

Donald Trump Jr. Was Offered Advanced Access to the WikiLeaks Email Archive

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outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Now STUPOR STUPID wants all ILLEGAL ALIENS allowed into the United States of America.

But DUMMY are you LEFTIST on the LEFT COAST going to foot the BILL ????????

Side: It IS

Not even close. Trump has countless clear and demonstrable failings. A tireless record of being abject shit. Obama made some questionable policy decisions but the right NEVER made any legitimate criticisms. They made up bullshit about how he was weak militarily while he ramped up the drone campaign 90%. They say he crashed the economy some how even thought he doubled the market and cut the deficit in half. They shit on obamacare even though individual mandates are THEIR idea for healthcare reform and various republican think tanks and politicians pushed for it and drafted papers on it. They made up conspiracies about how he was born in kenya and fabricated old newspapers and his short AND longform birth certificates. They said he wanted to take away guns when virtually no gun legislation of any kind was passed over his 8 years. The made up lies about the iran deal saying it was gonna help iran get a nuke when it did the exact opposite. They also lied about obama giving iran 150 billion dollars as if it was from our US treasury when it WASNT our money it was irans money that we froze.

And then you had just limp dicked pop news garbage like him wearing a tan suit, or saying happy holidays or some trash that nobody serious gives a fuck about.

I give obama a C+ for his presidency policy wise. He was solid but nowhere near perfect and has many things worthy of criticism. The wallstreet bailout was horrible, he continued status quo foreign policy including getting us involved in Syria, he passed nothing in the wake of sandy hook, he caved on a public option with regards to obamacare.

But you wont find ANY of these legitimate criticisms in right wing circles. They choose fabricated bullshit over any kind of legitimate criticism. Meanwhile trump tweets or does some shit every other hour that they wouldve crucified obama over and they literally couldnt care less. There are over a dozen indicted or convicted persons from his closest circle and theyre still repeating the "nothing burger" mantra.

The modern right wing is a collective of hyper partisan, fearful, paranoid, uninformed, overly confident, zealously anti intellectual fucktards.

Anyone who isnt that is at least able to admit Trump has made SOME mistakes.

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Bronto(2002) Disputed
1 point

Not even close. Trump has countless clear and demonstrable failings. A tireless record of being abject shit

Awesome. The "he has countless failings that I won't name" argument. Classic.

I'm busy raking in the doe from this market. Cha ching. What?

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I liked Obama. I hated his brainless policies. In this case Democrats hate Trump. Policies be damned.

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jamesbody(80) Disputed
3 points

I liked Obama. I hated his brainless policies.

But Obama is a very smart man and you are the brainless one. He was president of the United States. You are a cancerous shill who hangs around on the internet switching user accounts, telling barefaced lies and quoting Hitler speeches.

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Bronto(2002) Disputed
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But Obama is a very smart man

His results say he wasn't very smart.

and you are the brainless one

I didn't have to go into politics to obtain wealth.

He was president of the United States

So was George Bush.

You are a cancerous shill who hangs around on the internet switching user accounts

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Side: Obama wasn't BORN here
1 point

Big difference.

In the case of Trump, hate, coming FROM Trump, generates hate against him. His knowledge of "the best people" (many of which are now, or will BE, felons), generates more hatred. His admiration of the worlds worst, even OUTSIDE the U.S. generates more hate. His racism, of course, generates hate in a country where only about 1/3rd on the right are still racist. Trumps total "love of self" doesn't help.

In Obama's case, his birth right has been questioned by idiots. His father gave him a name that he couldn't know would be hated in 40 years or so. He was treated like a rock star around the left leaning world …. and knew his left from his right! He stayed friends with people the right DOESN"T LIKE, and made enemies with those ON the right (the BAD guys). For some reason, the right HATES respectable families … for some reason.?? AND, horror of horrors …. he was a BLACK MAN in a WHITE HOUSE! (Shudder ;-)! He didn't cooperate with PUTIN (shudder again ;-). He even disliked assassins that killed Americans!

No, the hatred of the left of Trump, is MUCH different from the hatred of the right, of Obama.

Side: Obama wasn't BORN here
1 point

Well, I'm neither left wing or right wing but Obama was a massive disappointment to me and I'm sure millions of others.

His outstanding ability as a great orator masked his eye-watering indecisiveness which rendered him as useful as a beached whale when it came to getting things done.

Obama's underlying racism against whites was the paramount reason for his shocking inertia and reluctance to pursue a 'pro-American' agenda.

As a persuasive speechmaker Trump falls well short of being inspirational but he is hard working, pro-American driving force who can make unpopular decisions for the overall good of the American people.

With the United States in debt to the tune of at least $21 trillion the pragmatic President Trump could, despite the left wing media, the F.B.I along with the ridiculously spiteful Democratic Party incessantly sniping from every vantage point, well prove to be prove to be the nation's messiah.

Side: Obama wasn't BORN here

The libs hate EVERYTHING about Trump. The conservatives liked the fact that Obama is at least half white. ;)

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