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Citizens should be proud. Citizens should be apologetic.
Debate Score:227
Arguments:118
Total Votes:257
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IS the USA the greatest country.

 Despite all of our problems are we still the best.

Citizens should be proud.

Side Score: 109
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Citizens should be apologetic.

Side Score: 118
9 points

Being proud and apologetic are not mutually exclusive. "Only Sith and Republicans think in terms of black and white." - Family Guy I think.

The USA has a lot to be proud of. One of the highest living standards, defeating nazi's, an unprecedented amount of freedom when this country was originated, and even more today, we give more to impoverished countries than every other country in the world combined, we've invented most of the coolest stuff in the world from cars to airplanes to electricity to the telephone to the internet, we have 50 states, a hundred accents, every religion known to man, every race, creed, and social background and yet have only had one civil war in our entire history.

I could go on and on. There are over 400 billionaires and about half of them came from the middle class or lower. No other country can boast such upward mobility. Of the top ten schools in the world, we have 6 or 7 (and England the rest). Anyone not proud to be an American has little understanding of what the world was like prior to democracy first taking hold.

But many countries have many things to be proud of. It's not a competition. An American should be able to both be proud of America, and appreciate other countries - and of course admonish countries which do not empower it's people.

At the same time, that does not mean one cannot also be apologetic for things like slavery, internment camps, our homeless rate, one of the highest prison rates, a currently dwindling middle class, knee-jerk racist reactions to terrorism and illegal immigration, one of the worst healthcare systems in the Western world.

As a whole one is justified in being quite proud of America. However, not at the same time apologizing is counter productive. When we start ignoring our faults we more easily repeat them, and continue them.

Side: they are not mutually exclusive
3 points

Ok I'm a liberal (yeah, I said that. I'm sure I'll hear from some Tea Partiers later) so my feelings on the subject of patriotism are pretty strong, particularly, the accusation that, because I'm a liberal, I'm somehow less patriotic. One of the most common misconceptions about liberals is that we are not proud of our country and we want to model it after Europe. his is far from true for most of us. At the same time, when I get hate mail from conservatives, they always make a point to say how great America is, and they're absolutely right about that. So what separates liberals from conservatives as far as national pride goes? Conservatives (from whom most of the patriotic boasting comes) prefer to tell the world what they can learn from America. Liberals, on the other hand, prefer to tell our fellow Americans what they can learn from the rest of the world. As America has moved further to the right lately, many conservatives seem to think it wrong for her citizens, to criticize her. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've been called a traitor, a communist, or a socialist, or some other epithet because of my views on universal healthcare, gun control, and workers' rights (principles that every other developed nation in the world have found a way to embrace). My point is, we as a people need to understand that, while America is a free nation, our freedom is not unparalleled. While we have a generally good healthcare system, it is not nearly as good as in some other countries. And if it can be done in Europe and Canada, it can certainly be done in America, the richest most powerful country on earth. And the lack of progress to this challenge is why liberals tend to be far more critical of America, than conservatives. It's not a lack of patriotism; in fact, it's quite the opposite. It's a belief that we, Americans, can make our country an even better place to live. We do have a lot to be proud of, yes. But we still have a lot to learn.

Side: Americans should be proud but apologetic
HonestAbe(11) Disputed
2 points

I don't think that liberals are less patriotic, and I am a conservative. I do think that liberals see things form a different set of presuppositions that conservatives don't understand and so it is hard for us to understand how you could fell pride in this great country of ours while holding the positions that, generally speaking, liberals do.

Okay, that said, our freedom is, or at least was, unparalleled for the greater part of two centuries. I think that the reason people don't seem to realize this is because most people who live here don't exercise and/or don't value all the freedoms that we enjoy in the United States of America. Case and point would be gun ownership. Many don't like the fact that you can own a firearm in the United States, and many more than that, don't own a gun. This freedom alone, separates us from most of the world.

As for health care, we have THE BEST health care in the world. We lead the world in medical innovation. That said, it is also the most expensive in the world. A problem that could be made not as severe with an injection of the free market and Medicare reform. Please don't think I am being simplistic here. The explanations as to why those two things would help could fill volumes. When people start comparing Canadian or European health care to American health care the only thing you gain is less expensive. If we want to improve the health care industry in the United States lets look at solving some of the problems in our system before we throw the baby out with the bathwater.

As for criticizing, it seems like (I said 'seems like') liberals criticize America for what is wrong with her, where as conservatives criticize what is wrong with America and love her for the freedom she provides. There is a difference.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

Good point. I didnt look at it that way thanks for bringing it up.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
garry77777(1794) Disputed
1 point

Where do i begin with this almighty load of crap. The USA has alot more to be ashamed of than to be proud of my friend.

"One of the highest living standards"

Yes you have one the highest living standards, you also have more inequality than most countries who barely have 1% of your wealth.1% of your population controls 50% of your wealth. Ratiobnalize that one, actually dont.

"defeating nazi's"

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but the cherished belief that America defeated the Nazis couldnt be more wrong. I hate when i hear that bullshit, its just not true. Any serious historian worth his salt (non American historian of course) will tell you the Red Army (i.e. Russia) were largely resposible for the fall of the Nazi's. They sacrificed 20million over the course of the second world war, they re-took Stalingrad which was the turning pt. in the war when for the first time the Nazis weere driven back. I could continue but you get the idea, fucks sake Britain did more than ye.

"we give more to impoverished countries than every other country in the world combined"

I'm sorry this should be in reverse shoudlnt it. How do you think you acquired such wealth. Your corporations and government have taken more from impoverished countries than anyone. The aid you send is purely symbolic, it doesnt alleviate any of the suffering. I dont expect you to beleif me. Why dont you try lookin into the dealings of the IMF and world bank, two predominantly American Institutions. See what they've done to impoverished countries.

I'm just gona leave at that if you respond ill continue telling you why what you say is wrong and why "At the same time, that does not mean one cannot also be apologetic for things like slavery, internment camps, our homeless rate, one of the highest prison rates, a currently dwindling middle class, knee-jerk racist reactions to terrorism and illegal immigration, one of the worst healthcare systems in the Western world" are just the tip of the ice berg.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
3 points

I believe the US is a standard for democracy across the globe. Starting from a colony going to a superpower in less than 200 years is an accomplishment. I know some of the past is bloody and unfair but still believe this nation is a force for good.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
garry77777(1794) Disputed
1 point

Your deluded belief that the US is a force for good doesnt exist outside your country. What does that tell you. You do export democracy but you see its your special unique brand of democracy which basically makes a mockerey of the real meaning of the. Look into it, look at teh regimes propped up by the cia and goevernment in South America, Middle East, Asia, look at how at the kind of democracy that your government has forced on people, i cannot eve begin to tell you how wrong you are, my friend.

You can eithert dismiss this as propaganda as its counter to what you hear on your tv screen, by the way your media is completely corrupt and serves big business (as does your government) but again you can dismiss that as propaganda as well OR you can look into what im saying, check it out for yourself with credible sources of info. (that basically rules out any major US meida outlet)

The US station democracy now is a very station (just a suggestion)

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
3 points

yes thats why thousands of Mexicans sneak in every day there is no disputing this fact end of story.

Side: Citizens should be proud.

I am proud to be an American, and as an American, I don't have anything to apologize for.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

You should have plenty to be sorry for. No wait, wrong day. Thanksgiving, that's the day I was looking for.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
trumpeter93(999) Disputed
1 point

You should have plenty to be sorry for.

Well I don't, so suck it up.

Thanksgiving, that's the day I was looking for.

What? Why? Thanksgiving is a day of be thankful. I have plenty to be thankful for.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
0 points

i don't think i could say it any better! It's to true and if you dispute this your a communist.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

I would be proud of my country wherever i would be, but America I love above most because we are big. REALLY big.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
honie(103) Disputed
1 point

Population wise, you are not the biggest, land size-wise, you are also not the biggest... so what do you mean by "big"?

Size: Russia, Canada, USA, China

Population: China, India, USA

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
1 point

It is a great country, but a well rounded great; it isn't the best in many fields (but in the top 10 for most of them).

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

Greatest experiment in the history of mankind .

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

No country can be called the greatest overall country, but Americans should be proud.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

It is in our nature to be self-aggrandizing, though not necessarily individually. More often it manifests itself at the group level, in this case the national level. It is right that we should think ourselves to be the best, so long as we always strive to be better. To apologize is to be self-debasing and makes on seem weak to outsiders. If we were to be apologetic, other nations would simply relish in the opportunity to blame their misfortunes on us.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

America is great... but not as great as the UK where we can choose not to work and earn around the same as a full time employee from the benefits we receive. Only thing wrong with the UK is immigration and the Scottish who are too stupid to run their own country.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
dcovan(170) Disputed
1 point

UK is great because you can not work and make the same as someone working? Great for you you lazy selfish person. What about the guy working paying his way and your way. What train of thought makes that great. Please dont let America become this way.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
1 point

Understanding the history and flaws of our country is important. Being apologetic for what our predecessors have done is silly and futile. As long as we are the most clearly innovative and most principle-based country, what reason do we have to not be proud? Btw, we live in a democratic republic. Not a democracy.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

As long as we are the most clearly innovative and most principle-based country, what reason do we have to not be proud?

Innovative? Perhaps.

Most principle-based? Absolutely not. During the Cold war the USA had nuclear warheads in Turkey pointed at Russia. So the Russians decided they'd send warheads to Cuba pointed at the United States. Of course the United States wouldn't have any of this so they cried out to the globe like a bully who'd been beaten up and almost caused a devastating war.

What of your many (if any) principles does this display?

Side: Citizens should be proud.

America is great. Freedom among all citizens is fairly new idea. Tyranny and control has always been used and remains an old idea.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

You didn't phrase that as a question. whaaaaaaaaaaaaat nooooooooooooooow!

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

Only the liberal-whack-job kooks think otherwise! America is great and f the the rest!

Side: Citizens should be proud.

If this country isn't so great, why is it that so many people are trying to come here ; )

Side: Citizens should be proud.
garry77777(1794) Disputed
1 point

You use such flawed logic Joe. The fact that your country has accumulated more wealth in certain pockets doesnt make it great in any way.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

OK, what do you consider to be a great country ?

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

Of course we are! Who are all these idiots that would think otherwise??? Oh yeah... DemocRATS!

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

As the only country in history that has destroyed dictatorships like Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and Saddam Hussein's Iraq and then rebuilt the nations as democratic nations rather than conquering, the US is the greatest nation on Earth.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

As a nation, we are responsible for the greatest number if liberations of dictatorships around the world. Many policies that have been enacted in recent years and even decades detract from American exceptionalism, but these actions differ from our fundamentals, the principles of the Constitution and a dedicated populace which have contributed to and will continue to contribute to American greatness.

Side: Citizens should be proud.

Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,

What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?

Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,

O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?

And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,

Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.

O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,

Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,

What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,

As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?

Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,

In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:

'Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore

That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion

A home and a country should leave us no more?

Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave

From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:

And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O, thus be it ever when freemen shall stand,

Between their lov'd homes and the war's desolation;

Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land

Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!

Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,

And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"

And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Side: Citizens should be proud.
1 point

1. We have the greatest culture, the most culture, and the most varied culture.

2. We have the greatest economy,( even though there is a recession).

3. Probably the highest standard of living given to so many people. (yes, Norway is ahead but it does not house 350,000,000 people).

4. The largest drive for immigration, ( our country is so great there are people literally dying to get in).

5. Once again our culture can be seen anywhere except for 2 or 3 nations where it is banned, but i doubt that the elite can avoid using our technology aka the internet, movies, video games, ect....

6.We dominate 3 major world sports like boxing, basketball, baseball! go Heat!

7. We aid every nation in need after a natural disaster.

8. The champions of free markets, ( although the asshole democrats and liberals want to turn us into a socialist scumbag state that depends on the government too much).

9. We are the safeguards of Human rights and Freedom and the first to truly enforce it and not just preach it.

10. People who are generally hard working, and want to find the AMERICAN DREAM!

12. We are 100% LOYAL and ready to die for our country, or make someone die for theirs if need be.

13. Last but not least we are probably the only nation that is BLESSED BY GOD!

BONUS: We also have the most kick ass military the world has ever seen! OORAH!!!!!

Ladies and Gents, GOD BLESS 'MERICA!

Side: Citizens should be proud.

Yes. It is the greatest country in the world because of its freedom and beauty.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
7 points

Define what would make a country great and I can almost garauntee America would not be anywhere near those standards.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
MegaDittos(571) Disputed
4 points

Inalienable rights to life ,liberty and the pursuit of happiness .

Side: Citizens should be proud.
Kinda(1649) Disputed
4 points

Do you really believe all that bullshit?

It's one of the most fearful nations in the world. Scared of the government, terrorists, immigrants, canadians, blacks, mexicans, republicans, democrats, liberals, neighbours even family.

The government (bankrolled by corporations) has you believe all this shit so that they can confuse you into the direction they want you to go. You're sheep. You just don't know it.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
Satakshi(95) Disputed
2 points

You should rather say-'spoiled and no looking at other people,no matter whether they are family or strangers' kinda life???

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
saintlouis(161) Disputed
2 points

Define what would make a country great

Military strength, economic strength, population. The US ranks highly in these.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
angelmew(81) Disputed
2 points

Military strength? Ours is bankrupting our nation with an extremely high deficit

Economic Strength? I thought we were in a recession.

Population? India and China beat us to that. http://geography.about.com/od/obtainpopulationdata/a/uspopulation.htm

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
1 point

the U.S.A know nothing about diplomacy or the art of war they just threaten everyone with nukes.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
sirius(367) Disputed
2 points

Right. When was the last time that the United States threatened another country with a nuke?

Side: Citizens should be proud.
6 points

Great at patting ourselves on the back. Great at being lazy. Great at telling everybody else what to do.

A great country is not measured by how rich the rich are, but how rich the poor are.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
MegaDittos(571) Disputed
2 points

The poor in America would be considered the richest elsewhere .

Side: Citizens should be proud.
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
4 points

Not an ounce of truth in this statement, well maybe an ounce. The homeless would not be rich in France, England, Italy, Germany, etc.; maybe in Ethiopia.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
rob0915(59) Disputed
1 point

The poor in Canada are the richest anywhere.

1) Free healthcare

2) Government housing, street centers, group homes

3) Food stamps

4) Family-oriented programs (Child tax benefit)

5) Low income families (or individuals) are exempt from certain taxes. It is rare to see a homeless person sleeping on the street in Canada.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
saintlouis(161) Disputed
2 points

You tagged your arguement as "citiznes sould be apologetic"

A beter explanation would be appreciated.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
dcovan(170) Disputed
2 points

Ya i get the tags as being a little vague sorry. I guess im trying to see how many people think the US became a superpower by suspect means. Such as native americans and slavery. Not looking back from now but during the time period it happened. Doubt that helps.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
2 points

Great at being Lazy: if we are so lazy why are we the leading super and if you look at our history we have accomlished so much for a young nation

Side: Citizens should be proud.
HonestAbe(11) Disputed
2 points

I will start with the lazy comment. Americans are not lazy. We work for everything we have. We have longer work weeks, longer work days and fewer holidays. Americans have driven the world economy for almost 70 years. We have accomplished more in the last 100 years than many other nations have during there entire existence.

As for patting ourselves on the back, we have a lot to be proud of and just because we can list off a long line of accomplishments doesn't mean that we are "patting ourselves on the back" any more than say an Olympic gold metal winner is patting him/herself on the back by being exceptional.

I do agree with you that we should not be sticking our collective noses in every body else's business.

If you want to measure how great our country is by how rich our poor are than we are a pretty great country. The only "poor" people out there are the ones that choose to be that way or are drug addicts or mentally handicapped, and even they have options if they want help.

You sir, are taking cheap shots at the country that you presumably live in. If you don't like it everyone would be happy if you left (you included).

Side: Citizens should be proud.
5 points

Nationalism gives me the shivers... It's the kind of mindset that leads to unconditional civil obedience. Overall a bad idea to put too much faith in a nation. I love my nation and I believe in it, but not in such a way as to believe it is the greatest or that it cannot be beaten or improved upon.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
dcovan(170) Disputed
4 points

I disagree. America is great because it can be improved upon. Its remarkable that the founding fathers so many years ago had the foresight to allow the people the ability and the freedom to change it.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
rob0915(59) Disputed
1 point

Nothing is great because it can be improved upon. It has potential, maybe. That's like saying "North Korea is great because it can be improved upon".

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
MegaDittos(571) Disputed
3 points

Stating that something is the greatest in no way means it cannot be improved upon. The best in any category can most definitely be improved upon but does not disqualify it from being the greatest at the time.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
NuclearFish(182) Disputed
4 points

Ah, but too often the greatest get smug and when that happens, they won't be the greatest for long. I believe we're in the state of disbelief that we're being left behind right now, not willing to accept the facts that this nation needs to evolve.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
4 points

america is where people who lie to further themselves, and i know liars are everywhere, america has a concentration, im an american, and i dont really feel loyal to my so called homeland.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
3 points

I care, why? No country can be considered best, in any way. Shut up about it.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
dcovan(170) Disputed
6 points

These debates are not required. You dont care then dont put up juvenile comments. To your point, any country can be considered the best, its just up to the individual to think what they want.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
3 points

There are only great countries, not the greatest.

We have our strengths and our faults, nor it makes us better or worse.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
3 points

this is such a fixed debate because:

1) CD is written in english therefore only english speaking people use it.

2)a large population of english speaking people belong to the U.S.A

I don't have anything against americans but I hate it when citizens of the U.S.A say they're the greatest.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
3 points

No, I'd probably go with New Zealand. Low religon rate, high tolerance. Heck, you might not have to pretend you're Canadian to be accepted.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
2 points

I would say that it is relative as different people have their own views. Usually a person would say that his or own country would be the best as it is their home.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
2 points

America didn't accept blacks long time ago and they fought a lot of wars, so I would recommend Finland, because their country is kind of peaceful and they are the Highest GDP country a few years ago by the way the year I wrote this was 2010.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
2 points

is it fuck !!!!!!!! they all are a bunch of flumps!!!!!!!!!

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
HonestAbe(11) Disputed
2 points

What? I can't even figure out what your argument is supposed to be.

Side: Citizens should be proud.
2 points

What makes a great country? is it the wealth? armed forces? so many things that define a country yet none of which make it great, land is land and is not great but the soils for man, but people say the USA is great because they defeat "bad people" in war such as the Nazi and the Japanese during WW2, yes Hitler was crazy but aside that, is it really that great to kill someone? that after you think "what if he had a family" and that will stay on that person forever, but a great country does not exist so long as there is war.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
2 points

Even a blind could see the abnormalities in the country also the country was unfit for human beings to live here/there

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
2 points

The war of independence is the worst thing that’s happened to America it seems. As it’s just been fighting every other country in the world since becoming republic of Britain. If you compare what the founding fathers wanted and what it’s become they would revolt!

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
1 point

The United States fought tooth and nail for their freedom, sacrificed thousands, destroyed families, uprooted homes, killed many good people.

Canada asked; now we're free!

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
2 points

Not anymore. (data below are quoted from Time vol 177/10)

1. USA is not the most prosperous country in the world. Norway is

2. USA comes 12th in college graduations.

3. USA comes in 27th place for life expectancy. Japan is first, Hong Kong is seventh.

4. USA ranks 31st for adequate food and shelter. First is Denmark, second is Singapore

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
2 points

No I think you should judge a society by how it treats its weakest citizens. The Us doesn't have Health insurance for everyone. Most industrial countries do. Our education system is falling behind and the gap between rich and poor is the growing.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
1 point

Most of those who are probably for the "proud" side are probably Americans! And that is what makes all the other citizens of the surrounding countries angry! The reason that we "hate" them so much is because they don't know that we hate them!

I think they need to stop taking themselves so seriously, and perhaps just focus on actually making their country great, because part of being a great country/nation, is having a great reputation. And I bet that most people out there, no matter if you are reading this a loathing every single word I put down... you know it... USA has a horrendous reputation with the rest of the globe as being the "bully". I think they need to grow up and start taking responsibility for their actions, just like we would teach any young child to do so.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

American and agreeing. It doesn't take much sight to see that everyone has a problem with is, and it doesn't take much to see why either.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
1 point

I don't know. I haven't been to every country, so I couldn't possibly say. I guess this might depend on what you desire in a Nation.

Side: don't know
1 point

America isn't so great. I'm American and I wish I lived in another country. A european country to be exact (not sure which one though). We've been raised to believe America is the best country. How are we the best? Sure we have freedom and democracy, but what is truly great about America? We aren't a particularly peaceful country. We've had one bad politician after another get elected to lead our country. We're fighting wars that we should stay out of. Our soldiers are fighting over seas and losing their lives. Those are lives that can never be taken back. There are countries that stay out of these wars. Countries where people don't have to worry about their loved ones dying in a pointless fight. America is a very controlling country. America is viewed as the capital of the world. For America to be the GREATEST country, we need to start thinking about ways to be more peaceful and more caring towards our own people. Allow each individual the chance to live an exceptional life and not waste it. I also would like to clarify, that I have great respect for our troops and I am glad that I live in America instead of some third world country.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

Hell no. We are behind in almost everything but military power. Just because you are stronger than someone else doesn't make you better than them. That's the way a child would think and that's how most of our so called leaders think.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.
1 point

How could the USA possibly be the greatest country? So many Americans act like we're the only country with freedom or something and just show their ignorance by saying things like that. We lead the world in only three categories: Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of scientifically illiterate adults, and defense spending.

Side: Citizens should be apologetic.