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Trickle down bullshit How dare you mock my faith?
Debate Score:60
Arguments:51
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I Won't Lie. I Find Conservatism Abhorrently And Offensively Stupid.

American conservatism isn't politics. It is more like religious fanaticism than politics. These clowns are more concerned with twisting words than debating facts, since the facts almost always prove them unambiguously wrong. They are just like religious fanatics in that they are always looking to circumvent facts and create excuses to preserve belief in their bizarre cult slogans and self-contradictory talking points. They are, above all, fervent deniers of science. Weak-minded little bigots who are afraid of their own shadow unless you give them an assault rifle and an unarmed intruder.

Trickle down bullshit

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How dare you mock my faith?

Side Score: 25
5 points

Let me be clear, I don't find any and all conservatives to be so, I just find the most extreme and vocal of them to be so. It's possible to be a moderate conservative who values typical conservative beliefs such as low taxes, small government, belief in God, and small steps with social issues instead of giant ones. I don't find moderate leaning conservatives a problem at all. But the radicals...

Hey, this is my third long-attended debate website and in every experience I've had it has been the radical conservatives who a) lie and/or propagandize the most, b) make the post personal attacks and insults, c) demonstrate hypocrisy daily, d) push oversimplification, e) advocate the more repugnant and vindictive policies, and f) behave the most like internet trolls.

That doesn't mean the extreme left don't do it sometimes, too. They do. But from what I've seen they're 1/10 of those transgressions.

And here's the irony. I know, from both my time on the academic debate circuit (which was substantial, through high school and college) as well as my time completing two college degrees, that the blowhard conservatives on these debate websites would either be scoring bad grades or would be dropping out of the majority of academic institutions. You really can't be throwing around profound accusations and misunderstandings about politics or economics or social issues and expect to get away with it if someone better studied and in a position of evaluation or authority over you is at the front of the room. Yet, in sites like this they think they're the faculty, they try to get away with every variation of outlandishness they think they can, and when the membership starts to thin they consider it a victory.

And THAT is offensive and stupid behavior.

Side: Trickle down bullshit

You don't like trickle down? I'm a minority who worked hard and has 3 modest homes. So what's your excuse?

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Spartacus Disputed
1 point

You don't like trickle down?

Trickle down economics is pseudo-intellectual bullshit. By the time any money from the top of the pyramid has "trickled down" to the bottom, it is no longer worth what it was worth when it was at the top. The scarcer money is the more it is worth. If there is a sudden abundance of it at the bottom then all that achieves is the relative devaluation of the currency.

Side: How dare you mock my faith?
2 points

As I've said, we need a return to the GOP. This pack of radicals we are experiencing now are quite different from the days before Reagan (and Gingrich and FOX). They were, at least, reasonable and would work with others that had other visions. I agree that conservatives of today are not far removed from one party fascism! They show no inclination to government OF, FOR and BY the people....just those that agree with THEM. If they get any stronger, America as we know it (or even KNEW it), will be gone. The founding fathers would turn over in their graves to see what the "Party of Lincoln" has evolved into!

To be fair, there ARE radicals on the "other" side, but, far less dangerous and more controllable, in the short term and NOT as dangerous to the people, more to the economy. We need the balance we had before the above mentioned conservative entities.

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1 point

Hello. I can't completely disagree but I would say it's more about fanaticism than simply religious fanaticism. It's very much like many hardcore Liberals though, I can't say the majority dances in crazy town, it's really mostly the loud ones that get the attention and make the rest of the party look bad.

I don't agree with most things Conservatives say, some of the ones on here are pretty hypocritical but they do have some good points occasionally, it's just the loud ones that get the most attention and look the most ridiculous.

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1 point

dupe.......................................................................

Hello S:

I SAID it was a dupe, but I lied.. What I SAID was, "Dem RAT WEENGRS is STOOPID and OFENCIV, amirit?", and then I deleted it because, after all, I AGREE with your sentiments.. But, your entire post CAN be boiled down to those few words.

And, I come down HARD on right wingers here who post that exact same crap.. If you substitute the word liberal with conservative, it's indistinguishable from right wing spew.. It doesn't advance the conversation. It doesn't promote debate.. It just makes you feel better..

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Side: Trickle down bullshit
1 point

Trickle down does work because if it didn't then the Left could not promote a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage !

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Capitalism and trickle down economics are not the same thing.

Side: How dare you mock my faith?
outlaw60(14498) Clarified
1 point

One in the same Moonbeam and you try to argue that but it's a non-starter on your part.

Side: Trickle down bullshit

The religion of liberalism tells us there are 50 genders, that socialism is good, that being white and male is a sin, thinks we need "safe spaces", and doesn't believe it's who you are but what you are that matters. Sorry, don't sign me up. I like living in the greatest nation in human history. If you want to turn America into a distopian society, there's the ocean...swim.

Side: How dare you mock my faith?
2 points

A witty, unbiased, objective, and civil argument. Oh, wait, it's a steaming pile of unsubstantiated ad hominem attacks on Conservatives.

Side: How dare you mock my faith?
Spartacus Disputed
0 points

unbiased

Of course I am biased against things which are stupid and morally wrong. You threw three red herrings out there (witty, unbiased and civil) to try to fool people into believing I wanted to achieve these things, when all I actually wanted to do was tell the truth. You should try it sometime instead of having a tantrum whenever someone criticises your faith. Your apparent theory that Conservatives should be able to do anything they like to the world and the others in it without suffering "bias" is quite clearly fucking ridiculously stupid. Do you take the same position when you talk about Maoists or Stalinists you snivelling hypocrite?

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

You just agreed with everything he said then called him a hypocrite. Well done.

Side: How dare you mock my faith?
LichPotato(362) Disputed
1 point

"Of course I am biased against things which are stupid and morally wrong."

"Stupid and morally wrong" in your thoroughly unsubstantiated opinion.

Note: the term "bias" usually implies unfairness in the prejudice in question. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you weren't using it in that fashion.

"You threw three red herrings out there (witty, unbiased and civil)"

I fail to see how sarcastic slights qualify as a distraction tactic, particularly when I had little else to say anyway.

"to try to fool people into believing I wanted to achieve these things,"

This based on what? How can you claim me to be implying anything with my statement other than that your original post holds none of the aforementioned virtues?

"when all I actually wanted to do was tell the truth."

Are you claiming the aforementioned virtues (specifically civility) to be of secondary concern?

"You should try it sometime instead of having a tantrum whenever someone criticises your faith."

To start off, this statement not only mischaracterizes Conservatism, which is a political ideology and not, in fact, a faith-based belief set.

Further, how can you justify claiming my "having a tantrum"? Last I checked, I'm not the one hurling entirely unsubstantiated abuse at those who differ from my political views.

Finally, the term "criticism" implies the expression of disapproval based on specific actions; your first post amounted to no more than meaningless, ambiguous namecalling.

"Your apparent theory that Conservatives should be able to do anything they like to the world and the others in it without suffering "bias" is quite clearly fucking ridiculously stupid."

Agreed. Unfortunately for your straw-man argument, however, this is not a position I, or, I would imagine, any Conservatives hold.

While I hesitate to speculate on this absurd notion's origins, I suspect it to have been conjured up from the madness that is the byproduct of your social echo chamber.

"Do you take the same position when you talk about Maoists or Stalinists you snivelling hypocrite?"

If I don't take this position with a political group you're lumping me into (and I most certainly don't), why would I do so with those I disagree with?

One thing before I end off: much as you think it may be, a debate website is far from an appropriate medium to vent unwarranted anger towards those you disagree with. I understand it can be frustrating to man-children like you who throw a hissy fit when they don't get their way, but this isn't going to solve anything.

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0 points

Thanks for showing us all, in one paragraph, the utter intolerance and bigoted hatred Liberal fools have for those who do not agree with them.

Hillary called Conservatives deplorable and irredeemable. You did what all Leftwing bigots do by spewing pure rhetoric with not one example to prove your point.

When I speak out on what Liberals support, I give facts of how they support No Restriction abortions of viable babies for any reson up to birth.

I show with facts their total lack of compassion for our most vulnerable children. I show their intolerance and censorship of opposing opinions.

I show the facts of Public funded Colleges displaying paintings of Trump's severed head on their walls.

Liberals are the biggest hypocrites on the Planet, pretending to have compassion and tolerance while supporting the exact opposite.

Go climb back into your hole, and if you perfect your intolernt hate, you might someday end up with a fake news job.

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