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I'm personally against killing my two year old, but respect other's rights to do so. NOT!

I sometimes wonder if Pro choice people are just pulling everyone's legs with the absolute ludicrous excuses they make for supporting the right of others to kill even viable unborn babies. How could any rational honest person make such a statement?

This is what they say......... uhhh duhhh, we are personally prolife for our own baby, but we respect other people's rights to kill their babies.

WHAT? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

We have laws against killing each other. We don't say I would not personally kill my two year old baby, and then say, but who am I to say you can't kill your child.

That is how much sense these Pro Choice loonies make when spewing their pathetic excuses. It's embarrassing to even address such inhumanity from these pro choice phonies.

If someone is personally prolife, I ask you why? If you truly believe that other people's unborn babes are not worth fighting for, why are you personally prolife?

The only possible reason you are personally prolife is because you believe it is taking a living growing human life. What type of inhuman fool would respect the right's of killers who would take other innocent lives?

Then after not explaining their irrational logic, they usually will come back with something like....uhhh duhhhh, it's a fetus (medical name for unborn BABY) and it has not beem proven a thousand percent to we deniers it is a human life.

WHAT? THEN WHY ARE YOU PERSONALLY PROLIFE IF IT IS NOT A LIFE?

Then they will go down the same moronic path of excuses about extreme case abortions, life of mother , rape, unwanted babies, etc. etc. blah blah blah, while these same hypocrites would never compromise on extreme case abortions, but rather support all abortions for any reason.

You see, these phonies have such lack of compassion for the lives of other babies, they say it would be better off to kill them rather than allowing the possibility of them having a hard life!

Can you imagine basing the value of a human life on the quality of life he or she might have?

They are total wastes of time to debate and why I ban the deceptive ones.

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Iulmi (252)

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Then they will go down the same moronic path of excuses about extreme case abortions, life of mother , rape, unwanted babies, etc. etc.

If they abort the embryo or fetus, they don't want the baby...

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FromWithin (8241) Disputed

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Yes, they don't want the baby because it is an inconvienence to them. The Left has decided that the value of an innocent human life is now conditional and based on your convienence.

This brings me back to my orignal statement. When life is so cheapened that it's values is merely based on inconvienence, rather than extreme cases, where will that inhumanity lead?

We already have Democrats supporting the right's of abortion clinics to allow viable late term babies, born alive from botched abortions, to die on a table rather than passing a law guaranteeing the baby gets emergency medical treatment from surrounding hospitals.

We actually have a few fools on this site who support killing newborns. Where does it end? Look how easily Democrats have accepted No Restriction abortions of viable babies up to birth for any reason.

The slippery slope of inhumanity in action. If I don't want my two year old, what should the laws say to me? My choice?

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Iulmi (252) Disputed

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When life is so cheapened that it's values is merely based on inconvienence, rather than extreme cases, where will that inhumanity lead?

It seems developed countries are doing okay so far, some countries doing better than others...

We actually have a few fools on this site who support killing newborns. Where does it end? Look how easily Democrats have accepted No Restriction abortions of viable babies up to birth for any reason.

I suppose you're talking about abortion, not killing newborns, which is not the same. The majority of abortions are done within the 20 weeks of pregnancy. If done really late-term it will be because the mother will die OR the baby will die anyways OR the child has anomalies that were discovered late...

If I don't want my two-year-old, what should the laws say to me? My choice?

An embryo or a fetus is not the same as a developed child. You can argue that abortion is not morally correct, but you cannot use those arguments because they are not true, and also nonsensical.

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FromWithin (8241) Disputed

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You just spewed the same total lies and deceptions about late term abortions, that the Left ALWAYS spews, to try and hide what they actually support.

It is legal in nine States to kill any baby for any reason up to birth! CAN YOUR SIMPLE MIND GRASP THAT FACT? If a woman wants an abortion for any reason at any stage, she simply has to drive to the nearest State that allows it. The Democrat Party keeps these No Restriction abortions legal.

If you can grasp those facts, then MOVE ON to the reality of what YOU support when you vote for the Democrat party. The Democrat Party refuses to compromise with the GOP on a 20 week abortion limit Bill, which STILL ALLOWS extreme case late term abortions.

CAN YOUR MIND GRASP THOSE FACTS?

The facts admitted by the Left, are that approximately 1% of all abortions are late term abortions. If there is approximately one million abortions per year, that would be 10,000 lives of late term babies. Does that sound like a FEW abortions?

Doctors testified that the majority of late term abortons are done on special needs babies (Downs syndrome, special olympic kids).

So are you saying you support taking the lives of innocent viable special needs babies because in your elitist arrogance they are not as quote "normal" as you?

Try telling that to those special olympic children being paraded around the track fields by phoney Leftwing hypocrites.

Please do not deny supporting thes abortions because when you vote for the Democrat party, YOU ARE SUPPORTING THEM!

What? You say you are not a one issue voter? You absolutely would be a one issue voter if the politician were a KKK member! Even if you agreed with all his other political stances, you would never vote for a KKK member.

So I guess that killing viable babies is not as important an issue to you as racism.

WAKE UP PLEASE! You are an accomplice to what is going on in this nation. If Democrats called their Congress people and told them you will not vote for them again until they compromise on late term abortions, the GOP Bill would be passed in a couple years. It's in your hands if you truly care, which I seriously doubt.

Prove me wrong please and refuse to vote for any politican supporting No Restriction abortions.

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Iulmi (252) Disputed

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Alright, first calm down. I won't vote for anything. I'm not from the USA, I live in Spain!

Doctors testified that the majority of late term abortons are done on special needs babies (Downs syndrome, special olympic kids).

So are you saying you support taking the lives of innocent viable special needs babies because in your elitist arrogance they are not as quote "normal" as you?

I don't think you know anyone in a bad situation. SOME of them go really well, and it's GREAT. I think those parents are amazing on what they're doing.

But some children need really special care. Maybe the family isn't able to stay at home with him or her all day, which is necessary lots of times. Maybe the family doesn't have he thousands of dollars needed to support the child. (and you aren't going to say that the US facilitates any medical help)

And also, some of the anomalies are not viable. Some of these children will die when they're less than 5 years old. Some will have a bad life until death. I don't think someone is a bad person for considering all of this before they have the child.

Of the 699,202 abortions reported to the CDC in 2012, 0.17% were at or after 21 weeks and occurred in a state where it was possible to have a post viability abortion for any reason. (around 1200 late term abortions)

Abortions have been decreasing each year, I don't think you have the correct numbers. Plus, a million of abortions a year seems too much for the States to be an okay approximation.

You can find the stats on my link. You can also read that there is no such thing as 9 month abortions, so this statement It is legal in nine States to kill any baby for any reason up to birth! is not true.

Supporting Evidence: Source of statistics on abortion (drjengunter.wordpress.com)

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FromWithin (8241) Disputed

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So you are saying that it is ok to kill special needs babies just in case they might turn out to be more severe than others. You must be God to know which children will have more problems.

If we used that reasoning for our children after they are born, we would be killing many millions of children. There is no difference between killing a viable baby before birth, or after birth. It's they same human life before or after.

We used to have a million abortions per year. Lately it has been arond 800 or 900 thousand. It matters not because we are talking thousands of viable lives being killed for merely being special needs children.

Our culture is dying. I thought the

Left was suppose to be tolerant and openminded and inclusive of people who are different from them.

I have a down syndrome sibling and enjoys life to the fullest. My mother could have used your excuses to end a life, but she has simple moral values from God who says he knows us in the womb.

No Restriction abortions allows any abortion at any stage. Stop being deceptive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/abortion-laws-by-state/297/

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Iulmi (252) Clarified

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https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/10/20/donald-trump-confuses-birth-with-abortion-and-no-there-are-no-ninth-month-abortions/

You can skip the first chunk of writing and go to the rest. It is a doctor talking about abortions, and what they do when it's reaching 9 months.

Those numbers are high. A thousand or two less, since the last data is from 2013, and it was around 660,000 abortions. And it's likely that these numbers have been going down, like in the previous years before 2013.

And bear in mind that people supporting abortion don't want them to happen just because. They want them to be available if needed. More information could be given when people discover their child has anomalies, and more help should be available to those parents. But banning abortion would not solve the things you're talking about.

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FromWithin (8241) Disputed

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HOGWASH!

Those extreme cases could easily be allowed in any legislation. But that is not what the Left wants. They want NO RESTRICTON ABORTIONS because it gets money and votes from feminist groups and abortion lobbies.

Your excuses are pathetic! I've heard them all before because it's the talking points of the Left.

They will ALWAYS talk about extreme case abortions but will NEVER separate those cases from the healthy viable babies.

Talk to someone who is mindlessly ignorant enough to believe the hogwash.

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Iulmi (252) Disputed

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They are not excuses, those are the facts. When you make your arguments based on the 1.3% of cases, that's where I think you're not being reasonable. If you want to argue against abortion, don't use the 'late term' argument.

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FromWithin (8241) Disputed

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ROFLOL, don't use the late term abortion of viable babies argument?

That would be like the Nazi's saying we are good people as long as you don't use the killing of Jews argument.

That would be ike slave owners saying we are good people as long as you don't use the killing black people argument.

GET REAL!

Here it is in a nutshell. If you don't want to hear about the late term abortions of thousands of viable babies, get your pathetic inhuman Politicians to stop them (unless extreme cases). Refuse to vote for those idiots!

You won't because you are as inhuman as they are.

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Iulmi (252) Clarified

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Alright, I get you are against abortion in those cases. Are you against it when it's earlier?

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FromWithin (8241) Clarified

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Finally you got off your denial of what you support.

Now as for me, I am prolife except in cases of life of mother, or some rare extreme case where the baby has absolutely 100% no chance of survival at birth.

I believe in the rare issue of a life of mother situation because it is better to save one life than lose two. If there has to be a hideous decision to which life is saved, that would be the mother's and doctor's decision.

Raped women can go down to the hospital within a day or two and prevent conception. If she has not been educated to this simple answer to a rape, then what does that say about pro abortion activists trying to use rape as their poster child excuse to keeping all abortions legal?

The reason I quite often speak to late term abortions, is to show the clear difference between the GOP and Democrat Party.

The GOP is mostly prolife but currently only fight to compromise on legislation that could end No Restriction late term abortions. No other compromise is possible with these extremist pro abortion Democrats.

One step at time.

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Iulmi (252) Disputed

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I cannot imagine in what situation they are, but I think most of raped people cannot think properly. Maybe they are in shock. Maybe they are afraid, or ashamed. Who knows. Lots of cases go unreported, I don't see not going to the hospital as a shocking thing, considering that.

So in the end, just as you say that some use the argument of rape for wanting abortion legal, you use the 'late-term' abortion argument for not wanting it. I don't see a difference.

I won't argue about abortion itself, because I already did my research over the years. Plus, your arguments would be related to religion, and that is a dead end, which is uninteresting and repetitive. I do, as anyone, have moral related opinions. I don't think children should be born unwanted, because that just brings pain for everyone, especially them. But that, again, is only an opinion, and should not be applied to the law.

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