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 I'm sick of the Left lying & saying Christians are trying to force their belief on others. (52)

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I'm sick of the Left lying & saying Christians are trying to force their belief on others.

The hypocrisy from the Left is clinical. It is truly dysfunctional the lies they spew. If I had a nickel for every bigoted Leftwing Progressive ridiculing Christians for supposedly pushing our beliefs on others, I could balance the debt.

Lets look at the facts ok?

Which side is sueing Christian family owned businesses to cater events that go against their faith? The Left is doing that!

Tell me of any law suits from Christian groups trying to force a Homosexual owned business to cater a Christian event? Who is forcing who?

Do you think people sponsering Christian conventions or wedding receptions would be so arrogant to try and force Muslim owned businesses to cater their events?

Whens the last time a Christian group tried to force ALL public schools to change their bathrooms to allow so called Transgender boys in our daughter's bathrooms?

Whens the last time a Christian group tried to force all law abiding gun owners to give up more of their gun freedoms? Whens the last time they tried to tell a woman College student she had no right to carry a conceiled handgun for protection from rapists and muggers?

Tell me when Christian groups forced every State to change their marriage laws? We wanted the people in each State to decide their own laws.

Tell me what groups forced every local community to ban any display of nativity scenes during holidays? The Left forced that!

Christians are not the arrogant control fanatics trying to force others to believe as we believe. Like I said, the Left's hypocrisy is clinical. Your deception is dysfunctional to say the least.

The Left is absolutely intolerant of diverse beliefs. They truly hate Christians for merely not agreeing with their PC LGBTQRSUVWXYZ fanaticism. If Christians do not bow to the Political correct Left, they will be sued out of business.

What Christians want is for the PC thought police to stop taking away our religious freedoms to disagree with this elitist Political correctness and LGBT activist groups.

Try allowing true tolerance for diversity just once in your hypocritical judgmental world. Diversity that does not have to agee with you!
-FromWithin
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Yes. Progressives are forcing their religion onto us. Soon enough they will have a Progressive version of the 10 commandments placed at the capitol, and will go well beyond the dystopia that Orwell imagined.

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The guy that spends literally almost every day trying to change people's believes here complains about the left doing the same. Funny as fuck.

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To me, you openly admitting that you are doing the same as religious people is funny as fuck.

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They truly hate Christians for merely not agreeing with their PC LGBTQRSUVWXYZ fanaticism.

There. Look, ladies and gentlemen, the most OBVIOUS evidence that some Christians are trying to push their beliefs on others.

You can't say that something is fanaticism, and then say that you aren't trying to change people's beliefs....

Poor twit. Must have acquired some serious brain damage at a young age.

OmegaPan(710) Disputed
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All I can see is the liberal religion being shoved down the world's throat. You will accept liberalism or else. You can't have your own race, culture, or countries. The system is God. It does as it's told.

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I'm sick of the Left lying

Hello F:

I'm tired of YOU lying when you say leftists support abortion right up until the date of birth.. You've been TOLD it's a LIE by EVERY single liberal on this site.. Does that matter to you??

Nahhh.. It does't.

excon

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I'm a liberal that believes government shouldn't be involved in abortion.

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Who was it that forced prayer out of all public schools? The bigoted Left did that.

Let's talk about this real quick.

You can not seriously tell me that you would be ok with a public school allowing a teacher to lead their class in a prayer to Allah or a Pagan deity or used the Avesta to bless the students, would you?

America may predominantly have Christians but it was not a nation founded on Christianity. But if you are ok with classes being led in prayer to a God not your own, based off the teachers religion in a public school, then good for you, I misjudged you.

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You can not seriously tell me that you would be ok with a public school allowing a teacher to lead their class in a prayer

Nope. I'm not okay with liberal priests in the colleges preaching 70+ sexual identities, fictional safe spaces, and an open borders utopia that isn't real.

HyperComm5(25) Disputed
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Both sides are force their beliefs. You can't pick one side and deny the other. It eliminates balance.

Still Christianity condemns people to eternal hell and discriminates against other people's truth.

We cannot discriminate against someone who discriminates as that ethically violates what to be discriminated against means. Your beliefs, not your "right" of religious chastisement of others. The crime of Initial Discrimination belongs to you.

Thus Christianity is slightly worse. Good day to you fella!

Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
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Nope.

See? Some Christians only want prayer in school if it's their God being prayed to.

cruzaders(325) Clarified
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I dont know as much as you about the history of the US but why do you have "in God wwe trust on your money", and werent your founding fathers all freemasons? That sound kinda mutually exclusive

Mint_tea(4641) Clarified
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In God we Trust was actually a newer development. It wasn't added to paper money until 1956. For a long time our nation's unofficial motto, "E pluribus unum", was there.

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Anybody have one single irrefutable piece of evidence that God exists?

It's been thousands of years, nothing?

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In an infinite reality that can pop life into existence and evolve it, per infinite time and space, by default, the highest possible, conceivable being must exist.

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The Fermi Paradox.

If life can just pop into existence and evolve into intelligent life, there should be intelligent or quasi intelligent life teaming in our solar system, galaxy, and other galaxies as per the Drake Equation. But we see zero evidence of this.

NumberOne(422) Disputed
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If life can just pop into existence and evolve into intelligent life, there should be intelligent or quasi intelligent life teaming in our solar system

Um, no. Your logic does not follow, Herr Bronto.

excon(18260) Disputed
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But we see zero evidence of this

Hello bront,

We have zero evidence, not because there is none, but because of the speed of light. The universe is so big and the speed of light is so slow, that our original radio waves have only traveled an infinitesimal amount of the universe. One can assume that other worlds radio waves haven’t reached us for the same reason.

And that’s why church is not a good place to learn your science.

excon

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And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:14)

http://biblehub.com/matthew/24-14.htm

I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

(Luke 18:8)

http://biblehub.com/luke/18-8.htm

Don't be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed--the one who brings destruction.

(2 Thessalonians 2:3)

http://biblehub.com/2thessalonians/2-3.htm

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"The second beast comes "out of the earth" and directs all peoples of the earth to worship the first beast (the Antichrist). The second beast is described in Revelation 13:11-18 and is also referred to as the false prophet. The two beasts are aligned with the dragon (Satan) in opposition to God."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheBeast_(Revelation))

Allah Most High states, “We shall bring forth for them out of the earth a beast that shall speak unto them for they did not believe in our signs.” [Quran 27: 82]

http://www.discoveringislam.org/daabba.htm

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(Speaking of Jesus Christ)

On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: king of kings and lord of lords.

(Revelation 19:16)

http://biblehub.com/revelation/19-16.htm

Allah's Apostle said, "The most awful name in Allah's sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings)."

Sahih-Al-Bukhari Bk 73; Num 224

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Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised?

(2 Peter 3:3-6)

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

(Matthew 24:3)

Jesus said, "At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other."

(Matthew 24:10)

Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.

(Matthew 24:12)

But the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

(Matthew 24:13)

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They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."

(Luke 12:53)

"Families divided by Brexit: 'Part of me just wants to avoid my dad completely ..."

https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/dec/21/families-divided-brexit-rifts-arguments-avoid-dad

"Families divided in the Trump era: 'I didn't talk to my parents for weeks ..."

http://m.startribune.com/families-divided-in-the-trump-era-i-didn-t-talk-to-my-parents-for-weeks/415957734/

"Once more, American families face seemingly unresolvable differences. The election of Donald Trump has divided my own tight-knit family to the point of ..."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-election-hillary-clinton-half-my-family-torn-apart-hatred-animosity-between-racism-a7424651.html?amp

"I haven't spoken to my family since they elected Trump as President..."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-us-election-win-one-year-white-nationalists-nazis-racism-torn-apart-a8043451.html?amp

"Recent polls have confirmed that Americans are feeling bitterly split. A Gallup poll conducted just after the 2016 presidential election found 77 percent of ..."

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.history.com/news/just-how-divided-are-americans-since-trumps-election

"Donald Trump Is Tearing Families Apart, It's Irreversible"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.elitedaily.com/news/donald-trump-tore-family-apart-damage-irreparable/1765379/amp

"Now you can get unfriended for not hating Trump enough" | New York Post

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/ 2016/12/15/now-you-can-get-unfriended-for-not-hating-trump-enough/amp/

The point?

The beast system (Islam, according to itself), and much of Atheism unite at the exact time against Christianity at a time when Syria is reduced to ruins. And this happens at a time when Jerusalem is divided into thirds (it is). And this all happens when Christians are mass genocided and beheaded (happening). This all according to the end times claim of the Bible. That is exactly what is happening now.

NumberOne(422) Disputed
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The point?

Omfg yes please. Do explain what your fire and brimstone scripture based rantings have to do with your prior claim.

The beast system (Islam, according to itself), and much of Atheism unite at the exact time against Christianity at a time when Syria is reduced to ruins. And this happens at a time when Jerusalem is divided into thirds (it is). And this all happens when Christians are mass genocided and beheaded (happening). This all according to the end times claim of the Bible. That is exactly what is happening now.

I'll be generous and say that was a big anti-climax.

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Simulation theory-

If any civilization anywhere created simulated realities, and those simulated realities created simulated realities, there's almost no chance that you aren't in one.

Infinite mass infinite time paradox-

Claim 1-

No thing can be infinite. If true, and our reality is infinite, the only relief of the paradox is a programmed infinite loop. With the findings of James Gates and others, this has proof of being true per science. A program needs a programmer.

Claim 2-

Our reality is finite. If true, you must satisfy the paradox that a thing (our reality) can exist inside of nothing.

The point? Our reality is a paradox. It can't logically exist without help from beyond our reality.

NumberOne(422) Disputed
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Bronto, nothing you have so far posted has any relationship to the initial claim you made. Deflecting the point with a wall of text is hardly conducive to a productive conversation.

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Uh oh. Looks like you just attempted whataboutism....

Let me keep repeating this:

WHITE PEOPLE (as well as African) were NOT followers of Abrahamic book in any way whatsoever. They lived thousands of years knowing absolutely nothing about Semitic religion l!

>>did all those Nordic and Africans BURN in HELL???!!

Just saying

>>WAKE the FUCK UP!!

It’s the biggest SHIM SHAM ever!!

Abrahamic doctrine has NO PLAN for Mother Earth- because they don’t believe in a FUTURE here!! They plan to trash it and all of em ASCEND to HEAVEN!!!

Fuck all 3 desert paths. May they DIE a horrible Death....

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Who was it that forced prayer out of all public schools? The bigoted Left did that.

You want to talk about nazi's and big controlling Government? LOOK AT THE LEFT!

-FromWithin

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Remember folks. Nazism means no prayer in schools according to FromWithin.

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Nope it isn't a lie. We shouldn't let backwards cultures of any kind into our countries. I'm glad you pointed this out nom. Here's another part of the world to ban dangerous migrants from. Can you think of any other dangerous parts of the world that we should ban dangerous people from?

HyperComm5(25) Clarified
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Your alt-right groups are biased for Christians.

They will just say Christianity needs to "adapt" rather then admit their Bible is no different then the Muslims Quaran all verses accounted for.

The Alt-Right wants Muslims banned. Its a personal vendetta not a rational premises.

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This is like then " merry christmas was banned' I will not stop my belief ! IT is not anyones to stop me !

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Nope, there is nothing you love more than an excuse to rant about religion. You're sick of nothing. ...........................................................

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I'm sick of the Left lying & saying Christians are trying to force their belief on others.

The Academic system from kindergarten-PhD is all kinds of f'cked up due to (most) Religious people demanding the topic be given privileged status--i.e. beyond scrutiny. Now, this is certainly not only coming from the 'Right', as the 'Left' is guilty of it as well--though, the 'Right' demand this to a much higher degree and have larger numbers involved in this respect. Then, on the one hand, it is hypocritical of many on the 'Left' for a variety of reasons, however, on the other, the 'Right' certainly has plenty of 'blood-on-their-hands' on this front.

Quantumhead(749) Disputed
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The Academic system from kindergarten-PhD is all kinds of f'cked up due to

Due to the fact that you have never been successful at it. Lol.

Spoken like a true narcissistic sociopath. You blame the system for your own shortcomings. It appears NumberOne was absolutely right about you. As your earlier response shows, your vicious personal attacks against other users are quite the sight to behold. I can tell you right now that the reason you have never been successful at academia is because academia is not the process of purposefully misrepresenting what other people believe or say.

xMathFanx(1722) Disputed
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@Quantumhead

We have already discussed this; ironically, I'm far more academically successful than you