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it's ok die in a fire
Debate Score:217
Arguments:196
Total Votes:262
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I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays

Genuine question

it's ok

Side Score: 109
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die in a fire

Side Score: 108
2 points

It's cool.

I am a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

So some people are uncomfortable around that too.

LOL

Side: it's ok
admiralbacon(229) Clarified
1 point

SlapShot, sorry to bring up such an old post, but are you saying here that you're a trans woman? Or is it just the old "Lesbian in a mans body" joke?

Legit curious, I've heard that phrase used in both contexts before.

Side: it's ok
1 point

I think it is okay. I mean its your personal feeling. People shouldn't be like "OH MY GOD YOU'RE SO RUDE!!" As long as you're not going around like "OMG EWW YOU'RE GAY!!" I think it should be ok.

Side: it's ok
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

This is wrong. The correct reaction when a person is known to be a pervert is "Yuck, you are a dirty dog, get away from me you pervert and don't even look at my children". Perverts need to be told the truth.

Side: die in a fire
Cartman(18192) Disputed
6 points

Yuck, you are a dirty dog, get away from us you pervert and don't look at our children.

Side: it's ok
1 point

Yuck, you are a dirt dog, get away from me you pervert and don't even look at my children!

I think you get pervert and pedophile confused.

Side: it's ok
1 point

Eww i am such a pedophile, everyone i am perverted person it is OK now anyone is perverted. I am a proud perverted person because saintnow called me it. Thanks saintnow your not the first that has called a gay person perverted. And you will defiantly not be the last. your words one of these days will bite you in the ass and i hope i am there when they do.

Nathan Allen?LGBT+ activist

Side: it's ok
1 point

Well, if it ain't the salami slapping Saint; have you run out of children to molest, or are you taking a break from pud pounding before you go blind?

Side: it's ok
pastafarian(79) Disputed
1 point

In your opinion, what exactly is wrong with homosexuality? Is your influence cultural? Religious?

Side: die in a fire
1 point

I love what I made the opposing choice be "die in a fire" XD classic

Side: it's ok
1 point

Btw thought I'd let you all know this was an experiment to see how people reacted to slight homophobia and frankly I was surprised that the it's ok votes outnumbered the die in a fire ones. I was expecting the opposite based on what the news is telling us, thanks for unknowingly participating, have a nice day :D

Side: it's ok
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

They are not posting on the "die in a fire" side because they don't want to admit their hatred against people who flatly say that the way they are abusing their sexuality is wrong. All of these perverts are murderers at heart against anybody who will not cower to their insistence of being accepted as normal.

Side: it's ok
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

He is not saying that they are abusing their sexuality. You on the other hand should die in a fire.

anybody who will not cower to their insistence of being accepted as normal.

This debate proves you wrong. He insists that it is ok to be uncomfortable around gays which we all think is ridiculous. And, we said it was ok for him to feel that way.

All of these perverts

You are the biggest pervert on here. You think a picture of people on the beach is porn.

Side: die in a fire
Jace(4706) Clarified
1 point

The news frequently misrepresents reality, because reality sells less than sensational exaggeration. Not particularly surprising that it would be wrong about this as well. It really makes no sense that any significant number of people actually care what others think about them, especially if those thoughts are kept private. Why should they? It does not affect them, and policing attitudes is just a waste of effort and energy.

"Look, as sentient meat, however illusory our identities are, we craft those identities by making value judgments: everybody judges, all the time. Now, you got a problem with that... You're livin' wrong." - Rust Cohle, True Detectives

P.S. Your front was more transparent than you may have anticipated.

Side: it's ok
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

If you get the feeling that I'm not reading your stuff, you are correct. I don't know when I'll read it again...maybe never.

Side: die in a fire

It's ok, but sometimes you don't even know some people are gay, such as ASAPScience on Youtube! It'll only make you uncomfortable if they interact with each other way too much, making it awkward for some people.

Side: it's ok
1 point

What a bunch of perverts here. I guess sexual deviants need some kind of social outlet, so they come to sites like this. Why is it that the number of perverts, especially sodomites and women who abuse themselves with women, is so much higher in percentage than in the general population? It's because perverts are social deviants, sickos who don't have enough people in real world life to interact with...or the ones they are interacting with are so messed up, like they are, that they can never be satisfied because they can't make themselves or their perverted friends feel normal.

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

What a bunch of perverts here.

Being a pervert is your expertise.

I guess sexual deviants need some kind of social outlet, so they come to sites like this.

What are you even talking about? Gays need to be allowed to travel in public.

Why is it that the number of perverts, especially sodomites and women who abuse themselves with women, is so much higher in percentage than in the general population?

What? This sentence doesn't even make sense. If you are saying that this website has more perverts it is because you are here bumping up the percentage.

Side: die in a fire
SlapShot(2607) Disputed
1 point

And yet another religious zealot whom I can turthfully call a hypocrite!

Thanks for that. You make it so easy. LOL

Perverts, huh?

How do you reckon you can get away with that when your holy book is "wholly" filled with stuff like this.....

http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm

Side: die in a fire

My argument here isn't that you should feel uncomfortable, but I mean no one can blame you for feeling that way.

Side: it's ok

I am OK with it as long as your not like cursing me out are hating me for nothing. It is ok to feel uncomfortable for something your obviously over thinking. You would feel comfortable if you did not think of the things that gays do behind closed doors...

Nathan Allen?LGBT+ activist

Side: it's ok

That's fine. Some people you feel comfortable with, others you don't; we all have our comfort zones.

Side: it's ok
1 point

I say it is okay because i know that they wont touch me because i'm a girl they will mess with boys and i know that if i do i might get teased but if i don't care what people say then i'm okay

Side: it's ok
1 point

I guess you're entitled to feel however you want, unless you say anything or act differently around anyone who's gay.

Side: it's ok
1 point

First, how do you know they are gay ? If they made it obvious to you, then yes by their action, you have a right to feel uncomfortable.

Now imagine a straight woman among a group of men that she can tell by their talk and approach...are straight. Should she feel uncomfortable.

Side: it's ok
0 points

I personally think it's fine because that's just the way I feel

Side: it's ok
Jace(4706) Disputed
1 point

If you have no issue with being unnecessarily uncomfortable, which I admit seems silly to me, then by all means be uncomfortable. I could care less, and I would would suggest that no one else need do so either.

Side: die in a fire
0 points

Depends. What do you mean by uncomfortable? What will you do about it?

Side: it's ok
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

If you get the feeling that I'm not reading your stuff, you are correct. I don't know when I'll read it again...maybe never.

Side: die in a fire
0 points

What I mean is that If a gay couple sat next to be on a bus or something I might be able to tolerate it for a half hour before I get anxious and uncomfortable

Side: it's ok
0 points

It's normal to feel uncomfortable around perverts who are sizing you up as their next meal. Heterosexual perverts make me uncomfortable, but sodomites are worse. When they realize that you do not in any way approve of or condone their perversion, and you will never accept, endorse, or encourage their advances toward exploring your body, they become vicious in spirit if not in deed. They want to silence anybody who says what they are doing is wrong. They hate the truth, and they will hate you for holding up the standard of truth.

Side: it's ok
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

It's normal to feel uncomfortable around perverts who are sizing you up as their next meal.

Nobody is sizing you up.

they become vicious in spirit if not in deed.

Bullshit.

They want to silence anybody who says what they are doing is wrong.

You won't read arguments that tell you you are wrong hypocrite.

They hate the truth, and they will hate you for holding up the standard of truth.

Did you just come out of the closet?

Side: die in a fire
SlapShot(2607) Disputed
1 point

Sexual perversion is a great subject to find in the bible. Since there is so much of it and all.

LOL.

http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm

Side: die in a fire

As others have said, there is nothing inherently wrong with feeling uncomfortable. The problems arise when that discomfort leads to things like discrimination and hate. But a majority of society has an implicit bias against gay people, and that's not an inherently bad thing. Hopefully, in a more accepting world, people would be consciously aware of this discomfort and work to ensure that they don't cause a negative impact because of it.

Side: it's ok
0 points

That is your right. It is also the right of a "gay" to feel uncomfortable around you. Hopefully, we will all become more tolerant as we get more intelligent.

Side: it's ok
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
2 points

Sodomites and women who abuse their bodies with other women should feel uncomfortable around people who keep their bodies for marriage and refuse to redefine the male/female base of the word to pervert the language so perverts can twist themselves into dirtballs and demand that you and I say they are clean and good. All fornication is wrong, and to do it with a person of your own gender is double wrong.

Side: die in a fire
Jace(4706) Disputed
3 points

If all fornication is wrong then why are you so disproportionately focused upon one type of fornication? You just implicitly conceded that you are prejudiced; well done.

Oh, and get over yourself. Most everyone else has. Most people are not going to demand that you say anyone else is "clean" or "good", because they honestly do not care what you think about them. Most people just want you to keep your beliefs out of their lives. An important difference, but I am not surprised that you have to make this about you somehow.

Side: it's ok
-1 points

I did not want to tell you to die in a fire, but I find you to be homophobic. Why do you care about what consenting adults do in their bedrooms? Many gays are just normal people who want to live and love just like you. I am bisexual, do I make you uncomfortable?

Side: it's ok
Jace(4706) Disputed
1 point

Edit: Nevermind; I misread your post.

Side: die in a fire
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Why do you care about what consenting adults do in their bedrooms?

They aren't in their bedrooms. They are around him.

I am bisexual, do I make you uncomfortable?

You aren't a great person to ask this question because you make people uncomfortable for entirely different reasons.

Side: die in a fire
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

You're a pervert, perverting your sexuality and perverting those you use to support you as you try to make yourself feel normal. Does it make you feel uncomfortable for me to tell you the truth about your perversion?

Side: die in a fire
Jace(4706) Disputed
2 points

You are an intellectual pervert and pervert the intellect of those you attempt to convert as you try to make yourself feel normal and righteous. Does it make you feel uncomfortable for me to tell you the truth about your perversion?

It ought not to, for the same reason that no one need care about your opinion of them.

Side: it's ok
SlapShot(2607) Disputed
1 point

You would know about perversion. Since your holy book is perhaps filled with more sexual atrocities than any other book in the world..................

http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm

Side: it's ok
SlapShot(2607) Disputed
1 point

Yawn....

ZZZZzzzzzzzzz.

LOL.

Meanwhile, you response to my THREE links of Biblical sexual atrocities is conspicuous by its absence.

As are ALL of your non-responses to my links that show the myriad atrocities, evil, and murder and rape that is rampant in your absurd holy book.

LOL

Side: it's ok
foratag(257) Clarified
0 points

"So how does it feel to want to fuck everyone you meet." Classic line from George Carlin on bisexuals. I laughed my ass off when he said that.

Side: it's ok
3 points

I love this answer choice! I might have to use it but seriously, it's okay, you might catch their gayness if you get too close.

Side: die in a fire
2 points

I'm comin' to get you..... :3

Side: die in a fire
3 points

Ha! I had a feeling you might be along at some point. . ;)

Side: die in a fire
1 point

Do you have an app on your phone that alerts you every time a gay debate is posted? Because that seems to be the only time you show up anymore.

Side: die in a fire
1 point

Maybe you would be more comfortable if you hugged or kissed one? Or maybe simply you need to wear comfy shoes more often - maybe get those Dr Scholls gel inserts.

Side: die in a fire

So I wrote a reply that got WAY too long, here's the tl;dr version:

You aren't a bad person for feeling uncomfortable, but you would be a bad person if you allowed this discomfort to guide your actions. It's likely that the lack of comfort you feel is due to not having spent much time in the LGBT community (through no fault of your own; there just wasn't any reason for you to).

Personally, I'd strongly advise you to work on the discomfort. Get involved in the LGBT community, or just meet a few queer people and become friends with them. That discomfort you feel will fade quite quickly when your subconscious (kinda primal "my-tribe-is-better-than-your-tribe") mind grows to accept them.

Side: die in a fire

Here's a much, much longer way of explaining that same point:

Well I'm not gonna say that you should die in a fire, but it also isn't okay to just let yourself continue feeling that discomfort.

Please don't get aggressive here, just let me explain my stance on this, and allow me a brief anecdote.

So, I'm figuring that, if you feel uncomfortable around gay people, you probably haven't spent much time around them. Not through any fault of your own - it's just statistically more likely for a random person to be straight, so the chances of you having spent a lot of time in the LGBT community are slim.

In much the same way, I didn't spend a lot of time around black people growing up. I was born in, like, a blazingly white country town. I'd certainly never have described myself as racist, and my close family/friends were all very open minded people, but I simply did not know many black people. When I was about 15 and (as most fifteen year old boys do) was thinking about women I found attractive, I realised that they were all white.

At first this didn't concern me - so I was more attracted to white women? So what? Everyone can have a preference, surely. But then I realised that it was more than that; I simply wasn't attracted to black women at all, purely because of their skin colour. That kind of struck me as a bit odd. I was quite confident I wasn't a racist man, but this niggling discomfort I felt about black people (the reason I didn't find them attractive) couldn't be ignored.

I didn't exactly have a black community to start socialising with, so I opted to simply go through stock image sites of various black people, and look up black models. Watch films with more black people in it, spend more time with the few black people I knew. Eventually, over time, I found the discomfort faded.

So, in summary, you're not a bad person for feeling uncomfortable around gay people as long as the reason is "I haven't known many personally", and not "They are satan-spawn".

Sorry about such a long post; it's a pretty complicated message.

Side: die in a fire
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

If you get the feeling that I'm not reading your stuff, you are correct. I don't know when I'll read it again...maybe never.

Side: it's ok
1 point

How do you know that homosexuality isn't unnatural?

Can you provide a reason for it please?

Side: it's ok
TrumpsHair(312) Disputed
2 points

Probably because it exists in nature.

Just a guess.

Side: die in a fire