CreateDebate


Debate Info

17
8
True False
Debate Score:25
Arguments:7
Total Votes:35
More Stats

Argument Ratio

side graph
 
 True (4)
 
 False (3)

Debate Creator

brontoraptor(28599) pic



I'm too far gone for God to want me?

I'm too far gone for God to want me?

The Apostle Paul- rounded up and executed and imprisoned many Christians. God found him, changed that behavior, and used him.

Saint Peter- Denied he even knew Jesus on 3 occassions and cursed the people out.

The adulterous woman- Was caught in an adulterous affair, and the priests wanted her stoned. She was forgiven and shown grace by Christ.

-----

-Jesus Christ:
"Which of the two did what his father wanted?" "The first," they answered. Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you." Matthew 21:31

-----

-"On hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." Mark 2:17

-----

-"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'" Luke 18:13

"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God." Luke 18:14

-----

-Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" John 8:10

"No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you,"Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin." John 8:11

-----

-Jesus Christ:
"Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven--as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little." Luke 7:47

-----

-"Jesus said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains." John 9:41

True

Side Score: 17
VS.

False

Side Score: 8
FromWithin(8241)
5 points

The common sense truth and wisdom of the Bible is amazing yet people actually think men wrote these words.

We see the reality of how mankind sees themselves without God. They would never write a book that calls themselves sinners and needing of repentance.

The Godless today believe they are wonderful just the way they are. They are blind to the inhumanity they support as we see with abortion and other issues.

Those on the Left would never make the statement "I'm too far gone for God to want me". They would more likely make statements ridiculing any person who believe's there is a God.

In the Left's mind, they are the enlightened ones, not God. They believe they are Godlike and possess the intellect to justify forcing everyone to think as they think.

I agree with your debate and would say for a person to make such a statement concerning being too far gone, and seeing his own sins, means he has already humbled himself and found God.

Side: True
Support Dispute Clarify
dadman(1703)
6 points

I believe the Biblical path is this .... "I do not believe" / "I will not believe" and then After God's judgement / "I now therefore cannot believe" ... < those in the "I cannot believe" camp are those who have rejected God to the lifelong uttermost and God has granted (empowered) their wish after crawling over miles of his warning and grace ... those who have reached this level of rejection (Romans 1) are indeed turned over to reprobate mind ... the LAST thing they're concerned about is .. "I'm too far gone for God to want me" .... they got all ten middle fingers up in God's face

Side: False
Support Dispute Clarify
excon(18261)
-1 points

Hello bront:

Nahhh.... Nobody is too far gone for God.. You can lead a wretched life, harming everybody you come into contact with, and that's all ok, because at the end of your life, you can say you're sorry, and all is forgiven..

excon

Side: False
Support Dispute Clarify
↑ Hide Replies
brontoraptor(28599) Disputed
4 points

So why don't Atheists do that.... if it's just that easy.... Christopher Hitchens held out until the end with his unbelief. But wait, excon says all Hitchens had to do was "say you're sorry". Apparently it's not that easy unless you are sincere, truly humbled, and are changed.

Side: True
Support Dispute Clarify
brontoraptor(28599) Disputed
4 points

Are you a "good person" if you cannot say "I'm sorry"? And if that's what it takes to be a "good person", then why aren't Atheists lined up to repent at least to each other....if not God....Because they can't. That's how far gone the arrogance and hate is with the full blown Atheist. It's beyond the pale.

Side: True
Support Dispute Clarify
JatinNagpal(2678) Banned
-2 points
↑ Hide Replies
brontoraptor(28599) Disputed
3 points

If you didn't want to partake in the debate, you didn't have to. Off ya go.

Side: True
Support Dispute Clarify

Browse More Debates