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I think I just created a new denomination of Christianity

Allow name to explain. after much study of the bible and meditation over the meanings of the story's therein I realized that my interpretation of the bible is different than any of the established denominations that I know of. Yes this even includes Catholisism. I don't consider myself a heretic and I'm not egotistical enough to Call mself a prophet but incase your curious here are my new beliefs 

the quote "the only way to the father is through me" dose not mean only Christians can reach heaven it means that any one who lives a good moral and virtuos life as Jesus did shall go to heaven non Christians for worshiping false deitys will have a harder time getting into heaven than Christians. Atheists for denieing god will have the hardest time getting into heaven (also applies to all non theistic satanists) theistic satanists will not get into heaven sorry but you picked your side. Christians stand the best chance of getting into heaven but suffer the worst punishments should they fail. Suicide is a one way ticket to the deepest ring of hell.

gods great plan is carried out not by us all but by a select few throughout history these people are the prophets of witch there have been 3 Abraham Mosses and Jesus whith Jesus being the greatest and most holy. God only has plans for Certain people but not all of these people are prophets there are some that are called to help there fellow man rather than advance gods plan these people are the saints. i honor reverie and worship god,Mary,Jesus, and the saints. 

Homosexuality is un natural and against gods design for humans as it beirs no fruit of life and thus homosexual relationships exist out side of the intended prepose of the emotion love and the act of sex. Yet despite this homosexuality is not a sin as long as it is not a choice. It is not our place as humans who are ourselves imperfect to judge homosexuals only god may do that.

i believe in Devine intervention which is a theory that states that the Big Bang and evolution did happen and that they were the processes by which god created the earth and all life on it.

i use the catholic bible as that is the bible as it was originaly written with no modifications made to sute the needs of a selfish king with a domestic violence record the likes of which would put OJ Simson, eminem, and Chris Brown to shame.

what do you guys think? If you feel I missed anything or I didn't answer all of your questions feel free to ask me. Also what should I call it?

 

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2 points

It does not matter.

It's just as bigoted and hateful, as all other denominations of Christianity.

warrior(1854) Disputed
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How so I said every one has a chance of getting into heaven as long as they are good moral people and don't commit suicide or worship satan. And that we should leave homosexuals alone and not judge them. How is this bigoted?

Cynical(1948) Disputed
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Atheists for denieing god will have the hardest time getting into heaven (also applies to all non theistic satanists) theistic satanists will not get into heaven sorry but you picked your side.

Homosexuality is un natural and against gods design for humans as it beirs no fruit of life and thus homosexual relationships exist out side of the intended prepose of the emotion love and the act of sex. Yet despite this homosexuality is not a sin as long as it is not a choice. It is not our place as humans who are ourselves imperfect to judge homosexuals only god may do that.

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seems just as hateful and homophobic as all other denominations.

warrior(1854) Disputed
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Hey I don't candy code shit okay I tell it like it is. Love is meant to bond mates together and lead to sex which creates life if the first 2 components exists but no life is created as a result then the bond is illegitimate and un natural. Besides didn't you read the part about homosexuality not being a sin as long as you were born that way?

Emperor(1348) Disputed
2 points

It's not a sin unless you are born that way?

That's fucking stupid on every level.

You know why I don't show religion respect? Because of fucking stupid bullshit like that.

Fuck your made up religion and fuck you as a person.

You are so fucking MEAN to people. I can't believe you'd say something so cruel like that.

Don't you have ANY shame or empathy towards other people?

You DO realize you are basically making up how God feels right?

You're basically calling yourself a god. God didn't speak to you, so you just made it up.

You think YOU'RE a god, and you're too delusional to even realize it's all in your head. There's no such thing as god.

Why else would you put words into a god's mouth?

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No offense, but your ideas are hardly anything I have not heard before. They also aren't any more objective or tolerant than a lot of other denominations or Christian views that I have been exposed to.

Well God said that you have to believe in him in order to make it to the new earth. I am confused on what you mean by morally good people are going to heaven.

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He means people who do what he thinks is right.

A Christian who thinks gay people are alright would consider gayness to be morally ok.

He disagrees.

An atheist might say it's wrong to love a god who tortures people.

He would disagree.

His morals are as made up as anyone's morals.

However, he tries to enforce his morals on others, which I find morally wrong! Quite funny how that works.

Strangely, I feel that even if I did call him out and say he was wrong, my threat would only be "You sure are dumb", rather than "You will be tortured forever by my god".

Quite scary, really.

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I get that. But he says that a morally good person makes it to heaven when the bible says the opposite. The quote he stated is confusing me because that was a literal statement made in the bible. Im lost in what he is saying. It is his denomination though so he can do whatever. I can't think of any good names either.

warrior(1854) Disputed
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God dose not tourture anyone. Satan dose. And homosexuality is un natural I never said it was morally wrong so long as its genuine then it's not a choice. But homosexual acts committed by 2 heterosexuals is a choice and therefor a sin and an abomination. And I haven't tried to enforce my morals on anyone I'm simply telling you my beliefs I never said you had to adopt them.

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It's quite simple if you are someone who sought to live without sin or at least minimal sin and you where a kind helpful forgiving person who always tried to do whatever good you were able then you will go to heaven. Basically just follow Jesus's Lead.

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Wouldn't you have to believe in Jesus too? I mean does your denomination say that you must believe in jesus like the bible says?

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I refuse to be any kind of Christian ever again. I am happy with Messianic Judaism. :)

warrior(1854) Disputed
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I understand you need to be where your heart is telling you to be.

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Thank you. :)

AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
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So her heart points to Judaissm and youre okay with it because she at least believes in god but if my heart pointed me to atheism, satanism or wicca thats not okay to you because ill be evil and go to hell? Awsome

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Ismaila if I may ask what exactly is Messianac Judiasm? Like what do they believe?

Sitara(11080) Clarified
1 point

Judaism that believes that Jesus is the Messiah pretty much. :)

What you explained.... Was being a good person.

Why do you feel like you need a religion to just be a good person. My parent's don't call themselves Christians and they do and act in all of the ways you described. They also don't call themselves atheists. They just believe in god, they are good people, they want to go to heaven, and everybody is treated fairly and with some respect.

ignore my 1st post, answer this one.

Do you feel the need to rely on a god because the explanation of all things big and small would be too long and confusing?

Why even carry a god when you can be a good person on your own, as you explained you are?

1 point

Fucking Christianity...

warrior(1854) Disputed
1 point

Dude seriously if you haven't anything to say that isn't blatantly inflammatory than GTFO.

Del1176(4975) Disputed
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Haha your religion is the shittiest thing I've ever come across religiously.

It's worse than Buddhism.

warrior(1854) Disputed
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Dude seriously if you haven't anything to say that isn't blatantly inflammatory than GTFO.

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Well Khorne is better. sooo..... Blood for the blood god. Skulls for the skull throne

Cool one more to add to the list of thousands that is just as completely false as the last. In fact, this would be even more so because it is completely made up from your own mind and you just admited it so it has an even higher likelyhood for being untrue. The only thing i will take seriously is the Christianity the bible talks about and even then its completely false. Everything else is fabricated, altered, cherry-picked rubbish.

warrior(1854) Disputed
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I didn't make it up its my understanding of the bible. It's still from the bible.

i use the catholic bible as that is the bible as it was originaly written with no modifications made to sute the needs of a selfish king

Ahem, Constantine, Ahem

warrior(1854) Disputed
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He didn't actually change it aside from having it translated into Latin.