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 I wonder what kind of arrogant fool it takes to think he has the right to take our guns? (35)

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I wonder what kind of arrogant fool it takes to think he has the right to take our guns?

Do Democrats have any semblance of coherent objective thought? Why have you voters allowed your party to being taken over by arrogant extremist Liberals who are so arrogant and dictator like to believe they have the right to take our guns and force us to pay for killng unborn Babies. Are you some kind of deranged control maniacs?

How would you like some Conservatives trying to take your freedom to have alcohol? All under the guise of caring for those who die from alcohal related deaths. Do you possess the intellect to grasp this simple logic? Well I obviously know you lack that simple common sense wisdom but you would think you might just understand how pathetically dangerous your kind of "do it my way" thinking is.

 

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"Do Democrats have any semblance of coherent objective thought? Why have you voters allowed your party to being taken over by arrogant extremist Liberals who are so arrogant and dictator like to believe they have the right to take our guns and force us to pay for killng unborn Babies. Are you some kind of deranged control maniacs?"

Where is your proof that most Democrats want to "take away" all guns?

"How would you like some Conservatives trying to take your freedom to have alcohol?"

How about freedom of marriage for a minority. Or, up until recently, simply criminalizing said behavior. What kind of arrogant fool does it take to think he has the right to do that?

"All under the guise of caring for those who die from alcohal related deaths. Do you possess the intellect to grasp this simple logic? Well I obviously know you lack that simple common sense wisdom but you would think you might just understand how pathetically dangerous your kind of "do it my way" thinking is."

The same type of thinking that you have used on other issues. You are just as bad as those you decry.

For once in your life, create a debate topic instead of just a "Listen to my rant guys!" thread.

Incoming censorship ban in 3...2...1...

Amarel(5669) Disputed
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Where is your proof that most Democrats want to "take away" all guns?

At least here, he hasn't said that.

How about freedom of marriage for a minority

tu quoque

You are just as bad as those you decry

Does this mean that those he decrys are bad?

GenericName(3430) Disputed Banned
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I feel quite confident that the topic of this debate is meant to express the same claim he has made many times before: That the left wants to take away everyone's guns. I do believe that the few individuals who express that desire are indeed "bad".

Though I am confused as to why you brought up that logical fallacy regarding my comment on same-sex marriage.

Cartman(18192) Disputed
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tu quoque

This whole debate is an ad hominem fallacy. Any argument made is valid since no valid argument was ever made.

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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Wow, I guess the fools are out tonight. What sane person would deny the Democrat party is trying to take our guns.

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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You are like a broken record. Is there ANY TOPIC that you don't bring in your lunacy on so called Gay marriage rights. You said you were not Gay so what kind of fixated one issue person are you. A Lawyer for gay marriage? This is why I will from now on ban you every time you nauseatingly bring up Gay propaganda.

For any fool to say the Democrat party does not want to take our guns is like I say, a fool!

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Rather than pass judgment on the manner in which you presented your 'pro-gun lobby' argument I must state that I disagree with you completely. My perception of America is that it is a violent society where too many people carry firearms. I can't think of any other advanced nation where guns are so easily obtainable with the inevitable tragic consequences of numerous accidental deaths and willful homicides. Why do so many Americans want to ''bear arms''? What the hell do you guys do with all those guns?

GenericName(3430) Disputed Banned
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While gun ownership has been on the rise in this country, gun related crimes are half of what they were in the 90's, and continuously decreasing.

ThePrince(5) Disputed
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Not true. Obama and the Senate had put in place several new gun restrictions and gun ownership and crimes have gone down. In Britain, where guns are illegal altogether, there are hardly any gun crimes

Cartman(18192) Disputed
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My perception of America is that it is a violent society where too many people carry firearms.

So, if your perception is way off it should be ok that we have guns right? Because your perception is way off.

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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My perception of every control freak who wants to take law abiding citizen's guns, you are a total fools! This society is definitely violent to unborn Babies but fools are ok with that. This society is very violent for people from alcohol related deaths but total hypocrites only want to ban guns. I'm a for not banning guns or alcohol because I possess common sense and understand when you ban something, it goes underground where only criminals get guns. Like I said, FOOLS!

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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If you were not a fool, you would know that the cities with the most strict gun laws have the most homicides. Don't let facts get in the way of control fanatics. Do you have a clue how many people die from alcohol related deaths. Morons like you could care less because you probably drink, but for control fanatics people who like target shooting or hunting, or protecting their family should not have guns. This argument shows exactly what fools are on this site. Thank you.

ThePrince(5) Disputed
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Wrong. Have you heard of Great Britain? Not even Police carry guns and they have almost no gun crime.

pirateelfdog(2655) Disputed Banned
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Please provide a source for this. When you make claims like "gun laws = more gun violence" you have to give justification.

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The Washington Post reported that there were a total of 32,288 deaths from firearm violence in 2012 in America and this figure has remained relatively stable since then.

However, suicides using firearms has risen by 7% from 57% to 64% of the total number, so whilst suicides by firearm have increased, if the statistics have remained stable then that should mean that "other" gun violence has decreased by 7% over the past two years.......?

It would be hoped that those in power are looking at the statistics and enquiring "why", when making policy decisions.

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It would be hoped that those in power are looking at the statistics and enquiring "why", when making policy decisions.

Sorry, no chance of that on either side.

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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I would hope that we elect people who are not FOOLS of the kind who would take a law abiding citizen's guns while allowing alcohol to flow freely as many more deaths are caused from it. Give us the death toll from alcohol related deaths ok?

Did you know more people die in America from hammers than assault rifles?

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Ok here's a comparison from the NIH re alcohol related deaths re my previous post on firearm related deaths in the US

Nearly 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women) die from alcohol related causes annually, making it the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States.

Thank you for proving what moron's gun control fanatics are. They don't care about lives. They don't care that there many more deaths from alcohol because that is not their agenda. Their agenda is to take our guns so that Government can take control of the people. But all you hear from the gun control cooks is that they care so for the lives lost to guns. WHAT PHONY HYPOCRITES!

Do you actually think Democrats would ever admit their true agenda?

Did you hear Democrats 30 years ago admitting their goal was to allow Gay marriage?

Obama would not even admit he supported it before his first election.

Did you hear Democrats 40 years ago saying they would support late term abortions for any reason and force us all to pay for them?

Did you hear Democrats telling us that our healthcare premiums would go up and we would lose our doctors and insurance plans before they passed Obamacare?

THEY ARE LIARS AND WILL NEVER TELL YOU THEY WANT TO TAKE OUR GUNS. They must always start out by using tragedies to get the talks going about banning so called "assault rifles" and to get the sheep to follow them with the help of the Liberal media. Then, one step at a time will indoctrinate you to except more and more controlling gun laws until like England they will ban your guns. It took about 100 years in England but fools will sit here on this site spewing their lies how Democrats do not want to take our guns. One word.... FOOLS!

Thewayitis(4071) Disputed Banned
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Do you actually think Democrats would ever admit their true agenda?

And you believe the agenda of Republicans?

Did you hear Democrats 30 years ago admitting their goal was to allow Gay marriage?

It has never been the goal of Democrats to allow gay marriage. It is and has always been the goal of Democrats to enforce the constitution. All men are created equal. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,... " Declaration of Independence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnitedStatesDeclarationofIndependence

Did you hear Democrats 40 years ago saying they would support late term abortions for any reason and force us all to pay for them?

It is because they don't support late term abortion or abortion at all. What they do support is the rights of individuals to choose the life they want to live. Hell yes I'd be more than glad to pay for an abortion through tax money to keep an unwanted child from being born. Do you want to raise a baby from a crackhead that is addicted at birth? Not to mention all those unwanted babies that never had any prenatal care, alcoholic mothers, cocaine mothers, raped women, parents too poor to raise a child, etc. Do you want taxpayers money used to raise these kids?

Just wondering if you should have been aborted? There is definitely something wrong with you.

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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You are one sick judgmental fool.... you support a woman's right to kill her late term Baby for any reason when you vote for Democrats but there is something wrong with me? You total hypocrite!

What kind of fool takes a statement that all men are created equal and then say that means Gay marriage is ok. WOW! I guess men can have 20 wives and men can marry consenting teenagers, etc. etc. Get real!

I praise the Democratic Party, especially President Obama, for urging gun control in America. The senseless gun violence happening in this country should make any benevolent politician take a courageous stand against the gun violence. I praise every Democrat who wants strict gun control. They are intelligent people who care about the safety of all in this country.

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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What a total fanatical controlling fool! I think the next president should be praised if he decides to force you to stop drinking for the safety of all in this country. NOT!

Can you even grasp your mindless stupidity or are you just being a total idiot on purpose?